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@ytc1 @DenOfEarth @aka_pugs I know.

And espechally in #ScientificComputing a lot of researchers loved working with #SunMicrosystems and when #Oracle took over that relationship got sour'd instantly due to #Oracle #CEO #LarryEllison...

-> infosec.space/@kkarhan/1146825

One of the big successes of #Sun was that they basically declared a unilateral "ceasefire" in terms of #IP & #Patents re: #OpenSource. Whereas Oracle didn't seem willing to honour that.

  • Without that cooperative atmosphere we saw #OpenOffice devs literally forking off into @libreoffice and projects like #illumos and @openzfs scramble to save what was OpenSource'd and also rescue that.

Obviously #Linux with it's #GPLv2only-Kernel and most of it's Userland could not get 'closed-sourced' like #OpenSolaris which instantly got stomped out by Oracle as they wanted to sqeeze #Solaris for profits and milk their clients in typical Oracle fashion...

Now granted, I do know someone who for most of their life made their money dealing with the intricacies of setting up #postfix, #sendmail and #courier #MailServers on Solaris and if I ask said person about that they give me a kilometer stare, so OFC like a #SysV - #Unix systems Solaris and #SunOS really are one of the reasons #WindowsNT won the "#WorkstationWar" and why - if anyone - #Apple won the last "#UnixWar"...

  • Still I do am sad that I declined that #sysadmin position at a leading research center I'm not at liberty to name and I do know there's OFC still some critical infrastructure running even older Solaris servers...

mastodon.sdf.org/@ytc1/1146893

Infosec.SpaceKevin Karhan :verified: (@kkarhan@infosec.space)@DenOfEarth@mas.to @aka_pugs@mastodon.social I know. Cade in point, #OpenSolaris did have avid users just below that range, and a lot of #ScientificComputing used it, as they previously used #IRIX. And #Sun being #OpenSourve-friendly was the right direction...
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@BenBen @fabiscafe @okapi @chesheer I don't deny this to be a problem, far from it.

  • In an ideal world, stuff would be portable enough that the underlying init (and Userland in general) as well as Kernel didn't matter and merely be a different config file.

In reality, a substantial part of #Gnome devs (or at least contributors) are paid by the 3 major #Linux distros (#RHEL, #SLED, #Ubuntu) and whilst not being antragonistic towards #BSD|s don't get employed to enshure it runs on #FreeBSD, but that it runs better on the distro their employer is selling

  • And given that these projects don't have infinite resources and espechally maintainers I don't blame them to redelegate a lot of work to #SystemD instead of reimplementing something themselves.

OFC it's saddening in regards to non-Linux #Unix-esque OSes, but given self-amplifying network effects both the murder of #OpenSolaris at the hands of #Oracle (with @EUCommission and #FTC as enablers!) and @iXsystems ditching #FreeBSD in #trueNAS alongside regressing #driver support for hardware outside of Linux, #macOS and #Windows, it's not a good time for these projects.

  • Which is bad because BSDs and other OSes force Linux to innovate and ' get gud '!

An #introduction, having moved permanently from @ceri@noc.social now.

I work in tech in Wales.
I like #bsd, loved #solaris, worked on both #freebsd and #opensolaris mostly on #documentation

I like #running, being #outdoors, #warhammer and its ilk, #cake and its many friends.

Musically into #shoegaze, #hiphop, #pavement, #sonicyouth and whatever else was out when I was 14-19.

Actively avoid talking about politics but believe it’s important to be kind and look out for others.

Nervous #dysgwr, be kind.