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Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/@ytc1" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ytc1</a> <a href="https://mas.to/@DenOfEarth" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@DenOfEarth</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@aka_pugs" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@aka_pugs</a> I know.And espechally in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ScientificComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ScientificComputing</a> a lot of researchers loved working with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SunMicrosystems" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SunMicrosystems</a> and when <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Oracle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Oracle</a> took over that relationship got sour'd instantly due to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Oracle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Oracle</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CEO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CEO</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LarryEllison" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LarryEllison</a>...-> <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114682503920794745" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114682503920794745</a>One of the big successes of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sun" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Sun</a> was that they basically declared a unilateral "ceasefire" in terms of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IP</a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Patents" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Patents</a> re: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSource</a>. Whereas Oracle didn't seem willing to honour that.<ul><li>Without that cooperative atmosphere we saw <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenOffice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenOffice</a> devs literally forking off into <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@libreoffice" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@libreoffice</a> and projects like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/illumos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#illumos</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/@openzfs" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@openzfs</a> scramble to save what was OpenSource'd and also rescue that.</li></ul>Obviously <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> with it's <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPLv2only" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GPLv2only</a>-Kernel and most of it's Userland could not get 'closed-sourced' like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSolaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSolaris</a> which instantly got stomped out by Oracle as they wanted to sqeeze <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Solaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Solaris</a> for profits and milk their clients in typical Oracle fashion...<ul><li>Which is sad because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/competition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#competition</a> breeds <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/innovation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#innovation</a> and a lot of stuff like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Zones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Zones</a> in Solaris really were at their time really forcing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KVM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KVM</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/bhyve" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#bhyve</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BSDjails" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BSDjails</a> to up their game for good.</li></ul>Now granted, I do know someone who for most of their life made their money dealing with the intricacies of setting up <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/postfix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#postfix</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sendmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#sendmail</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/courier" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#courier</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MailServers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MailServers</a> on Solaris and if I ask said person about that they give me a kilometer stare, so OFC like a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SysV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SysV</a> - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Unix</a> systems Solaris and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SunOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SunOS</a> really are one of the reasons <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WindowsNT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WindowsNT</a> won the "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WorkstationWar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WorkstationWar</a>" and why - if anyone - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Apple</a> won the last "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UnixWar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UnixWar</a>"...<ul><li>Still I do am sad that I declined that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sysadmin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#sysadmin</a> position at a leading research center I'm not at liberty to name and I do know there's OFC still some critical infrastructure running even older Solaris servers...</li></ul><a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/@ytc1/114689337148586939" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://mastodon.sdf.org/@ytc1/114689337148586939</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mas.to/@DenOfEarth" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@DenOfEarth</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@aka_pugs" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@aka_pugs</a> I know.Cade in point, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSolaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSolaris</a> did have avid users just below that range, and a lot of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ScientificComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ScientificComputing</a> used it, as they previously used <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRIX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IRIX</a>. And <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sun" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Sun</a> being <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSourve" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSourve</a>-friendly was the right direction...

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mastodon.social/@aka_pugs" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@aka_pugs</a> I loved <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSolaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSolaris</a>, and I'm still mad at <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FTC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FTC</a> & <a href="https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@EUCommission</a> for allowing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Oracle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Oracle</a> to buy <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sun" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Sun</a>!<ul><li>Cuz Oraclr killed all the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FLOSS</a> they could and pissed off all the clients they had!</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://chaos.social/@BenBen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@BenBen</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/@fabiscafe" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fabiscafe</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@okapi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@okapi</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@chesheer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@chesheer</a> I don't deny this to be a problem, far from it.<ul><li>In an ideal world, stuff would be portable enough that the underlying <code>init</code> (and <code>Userland</code> in general) as well as Kernel didn't matter and merely be a different config file.</li></ul>In reality, a substantial part of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Gnome" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Gnome</a> devs (or at least contributors) are paid by the 3 major <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> distros (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RHEL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RHEL</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLED" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SLED</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Ubuntu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Ubuntu</a>) and whilst not being antragonistic towards <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BSD</a>|s don't get employed to enshure it runs on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FreeBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a>, but that it runs better on the distro their employer is selling…<ul><li>And given that these projects don't have infinite resources and espechally maintainers I don't blame them to redelegate a lot of work to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SystemD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SystemD</a> instead of reimplementing something themselves.</li></ul>OFC it's saddening in regards to non-Linux <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Unix</a>-esque OSes, but given self-amplifying network effects both the murder of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSolaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSolaris</a> at the hands of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Oracle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Oracle</a> (with <a href="https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@EUCommission</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FTC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FTC</a> as enablers!) and <a href="https://mastodon.social/@iXsystems" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@iXsystems</a> ditching <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FreeBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/trueNAS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#trueNAS</a> alongside regressing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/driver" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#driver</a> support for hardware outside of Linux, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/macOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#macOS</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Windows</a>, it's not a good time for these projects.<ul><li>Which is bad because BSDs and other OSes force Linux to innovate and ' <code>get gud</code> '!</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mastodon.social/@bastetfurry" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@bastetfurry</a> <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> <a href="https://transfem.social/@puppygirlhornypost2" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@puppygirlhornypost2</a> it's basically salvaged <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSolaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSolaris</a>...

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://infosec.space/@topher" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@topher</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@nekohayo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@nekohayo</a> yeah...Personally I wish back for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSolaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSolaris</a> because I still have that for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/amd64" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#amd64</a> and before <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Oracle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Oracle</a> did a takeover, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SunMicrosystems" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SunMicrosystems</a> werre pretty <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/based" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#based</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/chill" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chill</a>...

Kevin Karhan :verified:WordPress Drama, Theo T3, Mullenweg

Kevin Karhan :verified:WordPress Drama - Matt Mullenweg

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://labyrinth.zone/users/mjdxp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@mjdxp</a> <a href="https://chitter.xyz/@efi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@efi</a> <a href="https://transfem.social/@puppygirlhornypost2" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@puppygirlhornypost2</a> I agree...Sadly <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/113178819948502078" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">legal said no</a> and I'd rather throw money at these companies than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Microsoft</a> or god forbid <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Oracle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Oracle</a> which fucked me and my clients over trice (RIP <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSolaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSolaris</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenOffice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenOffice</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VirtualBox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VirtualBox</a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Java" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Java</a> count as half-points each!) in the past! Also Larry Ellison is a cyberfacist POS and the biggest wanker on Lanai...

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://fosstodon.org/@carlwgeorge" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@carlwgeorge</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@vermaden" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@vermaden</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@samurro" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@samurro</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@tara" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tara</a> Well, the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CentoOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CentoOS</a> repos (not CentOS stream!) GOT <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6wP-6-2XwA" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">PAYWALLED</a> <code>git.centos.org</code> and whilst I'd not trust <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Oracle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Oracle</a> either since <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSolaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSolaris</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LibreOffice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LibreOffice</a>, the fact is that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RedHat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RedHat</a> canceled <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CentOS8" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CentOS8</a> or rather axed it prematurely...But yeah, both <a href="https://linuxmom.net/@vkc" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@vkc</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUXYbt1eLTA" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">1</a> & <a href="https://mstdn.social/@BrodieOnLinux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@BrodieOnLinux</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjhj44zWUH0" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">looked at this</a>.

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@vermaden" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@vermaden</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@carlwgeorge" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@carlwgeorge</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@samurro" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@samurro</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@tara" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tara</a> Yeah, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Oracle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Oracle</a> isn't good as a company but at least they didn't <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/paywall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#paywall</a> the right to install and use their OS...Considering their actions re: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSolaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSolaris</a> I'd not count on them despite their flippant response towards <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RedHat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RedHat</a> when they <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/paywalled" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#paywalled</a> the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CentOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CentOS</a> repos.Oracle did reply to said action stating: 'We'd gladly be the free <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Upstream" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Upstream</a> instead of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RHEL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RHEL</a>!' ...

Ignacio Torres<a href="https://mastodon.social/@Migueldeicaza" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Migueldeicaza</a> this is worse that what Oracle did to <a href="https://social.xin.cat/tags/OpenSolaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSolaris</a>, right?

Nahum ShalmanI joined Twitter back in 2012 to follow various folks in the <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/opensolaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#opensolaris</a> / <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/illumos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#illumos</a> :illumos_logo: community. Those connections had a big influence on my career. Twitter also connected me with lots of other wonderful people. Now that Twitter in no longer a place I want to be, I'm here in the fediverse to stay in touch with all the friends I've made along the way. <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/introduction" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#introduction</a>

Ceri DaviesAn <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/introduction" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#introduction</a>, having moved permanently from <a href="https://noc.social/@ceri" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ceri@noc.social</a> now.I work in tech in Wales. I like <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/bsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#bsd</a>, loved <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/solaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#solaris</a>, worked on both <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#freebsd</a> and <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/opensolaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#opensolaris</a> mostly on <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#documentation</a>I like <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/running" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#running</a>, being <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/outdoors" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#outdoors</a>, <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/warhammer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#warhammer</a> and its ilk, <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/cake" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#cake</a> and its many friends.Musically into <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/shoegaze" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#shoegaze</a>, <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/hiphop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hiphop</a>, <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/pavement" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#pavement</a>, <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/sonicyouth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#sonicyouth</a> and whatever else was out when I was 14-19.Actively avoid talking about politics but believe it’s important to be kind and look out for others.Nervous <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/dysgwr" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#dysgwr</a>, be kind.

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