@BenBen @fabiscafe @okapi @chesheer I don't deny this to be a problem, far from it.

• In an ideal world, stuff would be portable enough that the underlying init (and Userland in general) as well as Kernel didn't matter and merely be a different config file.

In reality, a substantial part of #Gnome devs (or at least contributors) are paid by the 3 major #Linux distros (#RHEL, #SLED, #Ubuntu) and whilst not being antragonistic towards #BSD|s don't get employed to enshure it runs on #FreeBSD, but that it runs better on the distro their employer is selling…

• And given that these projects don't have infinite resources and espechally maintainers I don't blame them to redelegate a lot of work to #SystemD instead of reimplementing something themselves.

OFC it's saddening in regards to non-Linux #Unix-esque OSes, but given self-amplifying network effects both the murder of #OpenSolaris at the hands of #Oracle (with @EUCommission and #FTC as enablers!) and @iXsystems ditching #FreeBSD in #trueNAS alongside regressing #driver support for hardware outside of Linux, #macOS and #Windows, it's not a good time for these projects.

• Which is bad because BSDs and other OSes force Linux to innovate and ' get gud '!

@davidgerard @cleverboi @RecurringBloatware @rdfhrn and because "installing another shell" is like "installing a compiler on a production system".

• At least a gross violation of #BestPractises with regulations, if not a ticket to get a nonconsensual meeting with HR and security escorting one off premises...

So yeah, I've deal with #bash simply because it's the only #shell I can reliably expect on any relevant #Linux distro I'm working on (aka. #Ubuntu LTS, #SLES / #SLED, #RHEL, #Debian) ...

@graste nodds in agreement

@ubuntu, @opensuse , #SLED, #RHEL WS, @fedora and #OracleLinux have 0 excuses for neglecting #accessibility.

• They have the money to actually fix this shit!

And yes, they need to do better because #Apple's #macOS does so from the start!

There's nothing like a fat, low sled to make your Saturday.

@annantidote AFAIK, @almalinux and @rockylinux alongside @centos are supoorted.

• The only proven to be supported option is the Studio version on #RHEL #Workstation (notshure if @SUSE / #SUSE #SLED or @thelinuxcast / #OpenSUSE support it!)...

@killyourfm #Funfact: Basically any #Linux I know (okay, except #SLES / #SLED, #RHEL and #OracleLinux with a subscription) allow users to install their system on an external drive.

• And with #Steam it's just choosing a different drive to install games to.

Still, I do welcome options that make it even easier...

@ustralien @DirkBoente Gibt genug Anbieter, besonders bei Mainstream distros wie @ubuntu / #UbuntuLTS, @SUSE / #SLES / #SLED & @redhat / #RHEL ...

Leute kaufen ja auch nicht mehr Porsche oder Lada wenn das die einzigen Händker im Dorf sind...

Selbst fucking #Apple ist besser weil nicht nur #Backups.funktionieren sondern all der ganze #Cloud-Bullshit abstellbar ist!

@nixCraft #Recall & #Copilot are #YetAnotherReason why I'd rather buy a #RHEL, #SLES, #SLED, #OravleLinux AND #Solaris #subscription at the same time than ever touch #Windows11!

• That #Govware should be outlawed!

@ravirockks OFC they don't.

• And by "don't I don't mean "teach #assembly and CPU architectures" but anything that goes beyond #LinusTechTips's #Tutorials...

At best they show people how to change fan curves in the #UEFI or hiw to run #memtest86+, but mostly they just "teach" people how to consume #Windows and at best #macOS and that's it.

• I mean I don't expect any training center to teach people how to build #mkroot (#toybox + #linux) or #LinuxFromScratch but at least showing people how to use @ubuntu / #UbuntuLTS & @tails_live / @tails / #Tails should be in the cards if #RHEL & #SLES / #SLED isn't.

Same with @libreoffice / #LibreOffice & @thunderbird / #Thunderbird.

• At least the most pointless certification - #ECDL - isn't hard-locked to #Windows11 & #MicrosoftOffice per-se!

@jakob_thoboell @DigitalWriter@bildung.social @jdohrmann insbesondere passt der Vergleich weil IT nicht wie kommerzielle zivile Luftfahrt ist und Piloten dort nur auf nachweislich trainierten Jets eingesetzt werden dürfen...

• Von mir wird auch erwartet dass ich im Zweifelsfalle nicht nur #UbuntuLTS, sondern auch #RHEL, #SLES / #SLED, #OracleLinux oder gar #macOS einrichten und warten kann...

@mjdxp @efi @puppygirlhornypost2 personally, I'm glad that I only need #UbuntuLTS, but if I ever were to supoort #RHEL or #SLED / #SLES I'd just use my existing developer agreements which allow me to setup as many installs as I like for testing, development, support and evaluation pending I don't use them "in production" aka. run my business off them.

In terms of commercial distros I'd actually consider buying a subscription, #Ubuntu is the option I'd consider given it's entirely optional to get their commercial support and the only difference besides support are few addon features, and not entirely different distros that have vast differences between the "open" and "commercial" offerings in terms of underlying architecture.

• But maybe it's just me being unwilling to pay 8x (#RedHat) or 4x (#SUSE) of what #Canonical demands for the same SLAs... [based off a real-life cost analysis for a fmr. employer/client]

@muhkayoh I really wish for more #CreativeSoftware to support #Linux as #finalcutOS aka. #macOS becomes more and more #enshittified like #Windows and I'd rather bite the bullet and pay for #RHEL / #SLED / #UbuntuPro #subscriptions instead of having to deal with #Apple's "my way or the highway" attitude towards Hardware (regardless of all the valid criticism towards #nvidia just to name the elephant in the room)...

@hgfernan @textovervideo well, the original poll asked about #2Danimation and both #MohoStudio and #ToonboomHarmony are the prime (abeit #CCSS and not #FLOSS) tools the industry uses.

• May it be "#Wolfwalkers" (#Moho) or "#KimPossible" (#Toonboom #Harmony), and with #Adobe axing #Animate nee. #Flash they basically form a duopoly in commercial #2D #animation software for cartoons.

That being said, a lot of people may be content with #Blender's options as something cheaper (aka. free as in FLOSS) with way more accessible #documentation, #community and support resources.

• Anyway, it's sad to see both big players don't even support #RHEL or #SLED or #Ubuntu LTS Desktop...

@carlwgeorge @vermaden @samurro @tara @vkc @BrodieOnLinux

Cuz for #devs it was very convenient to target #CentOS and test against it since it's basically identical to #RHEL - minus the commercial support - which also drove adoption of #RedHat's distro.

• Similar to how in many cases #OpenSUSE allowed most of the devs targeting #SLES & #SLED to get away not having to buy many machines and how the only.difference between #UbuntuLTS & #UbuntuPro are #Landscape, #ESM repos and getting 10years of paid per annum instead of 5 years free security updates.

@jascha Ich würde jedenfalls eher für #UbuntuPro oder #SLED zahlen als #Microsoft365 / #Office365...

@Saupreiss Klar, nur bietet #Microsoft nichtmals ansatzweise die Menge an #Support und #Assurance an die #Linux Distros wie #RHEL (Workstation), #SLES / #SLED, #UbuntuLTS und #OracleLinux abmnbieten obwohl #Windows und besonders #WindowsServer deutlich teurer durchzulizensieren ist.

Außerdem ist das komplette "#Antimalware" / "#Antivirus" - Business doch einfach nur #Scareware die auf kongnitive Dissonanz abzielt weil Leute die #WindowsDefender misstrauen nicht gleich die #Govware namens Windows mit enstorgen!