@LinuxGuides alle 3 Großen (#RHEL, #SLES / #SLED, #UbuntuLTS) sowie Forks (#OracleLinux), Upstreams (#Debian, #Slackware, #OpenSUSE) & weirdes (#ChimeraLinux)…

@hellomiakoda granted, #Snap is a "good idea, but horribly executed" and @ubuntu trying to hamfist it down peoples' throats.and being anti-#Flatpak didn't sit well for all the right reasons!

• The sad part is that there's not.much of a competition for #Enterprise users with the #UbuntuLTS, #SLES / #SLED & #RHEL tripol!

@earthshine or a more cynical take:

• #Canonical giving away @ubuntu / #Ubuntu for free to users is fine because big corporations will license #Landscape amd buy into other services. The few businesses that don't need that ain't worth pursuing for license fees becaise it doesn't justify the cost of doing so.

• Same with @opensuse / #OpenSUSE: Big corporate users want #SLES & #SLED.

• Even #Oracle understands that with #OracleLinux. Only #RedHat seem to have forgotten that when they killed #CentOS!

@BenBen @fabiscafe @okapi @chesheer I don't deny this to be a problem, far from it.

• In an ideal world, stuff would be portable enough that the underlying init (and Userland in general) as well as Kernel didn't matter and merely be a different config file.

In reality, a substantial part of #Gnome devs (or at least contributors) are paid by the 3 major #Linux distros (#RHEL, #SLED, #Ubuntu) and whilst not being antragonistic towards #BSD|s don't get employed to enshure it runs on #FreeBSD, but that it runs better on the distro their employer is selling…

• And given that these projects don't have infinite resources and espechally maintainers I don't blame them to redelegate a lot of work to #SystemD instead of reimplementing something themselves.

OFC it's saddening in regards to non-Linux #Unix-esque OSes, but given self-amplifying network effects both the murder of #OpenSolaris at the hands of #Oracle (with @EUCommission and #FTC as enablers!) and @iXsystems ditching #FreeBSD in #trueNAS alongside regressing #driver support for hardware outside of Linux, #macOS and #Windows, it's not a good time for these projects.

• Which is bad because BSDs and other OSes force Linux to innovate and ' get gud '!

@davidgerard @cleverboi @RecurringBloatware @rdfhrn and because "installing another shell" is like "installing a compiler on a production system".

• At least a gross violation of #BestPractises with regulations, if not a ticket to get a nonconsensual meeting with HR and security escorting one off premises...

So yeah, I've deal with #bash simply because it's the only #shell I can reliably expect on any relevant #Linux distro I'm working on (aka. #Ubuntu LTS, #SLES / #SLED, #RHEL, #Debian) ...

@mjdxp @efi @puppygirlhornypost2 personally, I'm glad that I only need #UbuntuLTS, but if I ever were to supoort #RHEL or #SLED / #SLES I'd just use my existing developer agreements which allow me to setup as many installs as I like for testing, development, support and evaluation pending I don't use them "in production" aka. run my business off them.

In terms of commercial distros I'd actually consider buying a subscription, #Ubuntu is the option I'd consider given it's entirely optional to get their commercial support and the only difference besides support are few addon features, and not entirely different distros that have vast differences between the "open" and "commercial" offerings in terms of underlying architecture.

• But maybe it's just me being unwilling to pay 8x (#RedHat) or 4x (#SUSE) of what #Canonical demands for the same SLAs... [based off a real-life cost analysis for a fmr. employer/client]

@jascha Ich würde jedenfalls eher für #UbuntuPro oder #SLED zahlen als #Microsoft365 / #Office365...

@Saupreiss Klar, nur bietet #Microsoft nichtmals ansatzweise die Menge an #Support und #Assurance an die #Linux Distros wie #RHEL (Workstation), #SLES / #SLED, #UbuntuLTS und #OracleLinux abmnbieten obwohl #Windows und besonders #WindowsServer deutlich teurer durchzulizensieren ist.

Außerdem ist das komplette "#Antimalware" / "#Antivirus" - Business doch einfach nur #Scareware die auf kongnitive Dissonanz abzielt weil Leute die #WindowsDefender misstrauen nicht gleich die #Govware namens Windows mit enstorgen!

After the work is done — Whee!!!

You're only young once.

You only live once.

You're never too old.

@ariadne well, ain't #licenses like #GPLv3 or even #3ClauseBSD clear in that regard?

Ain't "Provided as-is with no warranties whatsoever" not clear enough?

I'd say this eould he different for any #paid software (whether it's one-time - purchase or support - subscription) where things like "Software & IP Assurances" are regularly part of the offering (i.e. #RHEL, #SLES / #SLED and @Ubuntu Advantage)