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See the big issue with Dia is that I don't use a standard web browser for much, I use web apps, sure, but I use a lot of them on the desktop through wrappers

So it's never going to really build all of this personal context for me because that's all going to be sitting at the OS-level, not the browser-level

Also trying to use something like Notion in a browser with a horizontal tab bar is unpleasant, really considering just sticking with Safari

The Browser Company が #Arc を捨てて新しく作った #Dia 、もうベータ版でたのか。

さて、どんな感じかな…(とりあえず Waitlist に登録した

Meet Dia – the AI Browser Where You Can Chat with Your Tabs diabrowser.com/

Dia BrowserMeet Dia – the AI Browser Where You Can Chat with Your TabsDia is the AI browser from The Browser Company. Chat with your tabs, write in your own voice, learn and plan faster, shop, and more — all with privacy that you control.

なるほど、 #ArcBrowser の開発元の #TheBrowserCompany は Dia という新しい AI ブラウザーの開発をやりたい(というかやっている)、そして #ArcBrowser は売却もしくはオープンソース化が検討されていると。

ただ、その Dia の開発にも使われている技術の一部は #Arc のコードにも含まれていて、それが #Arc のオープンソース化などの障壁になっていて、どうしたもんかなーみたいな状態、ということなのかな。

techcrunch.com/2025/05/27/the-

TechCrunch · The Browser Company mulls selling or open-sourcing Arc Browser amid AI-focused pivot | TechCrunchThe Browser Company is pivoting away from the Arc Browser to focus on developing a new, AI-powered browser called Dia.
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I might also explore going back to #ArcBrowser on Windows it even if it's not as great of an experience as on Mac. The main reason I'm considering this is so I can pass links between my Mac, Windows, and my phone.

That setup worked so well. I just wanna a connected experience on all my devices 😅

After a few months using #ZenBrowser as my main browser, I've decided to go back to #ArcBrowser on my work laptop which is a Macbook.

I kept missing so many features that Arc has, and while I know TBC has slowed down updates on Arc save for the security patches, it still feels way more intuitive on Mac than Zen.

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@kevinrothrock
I guess you don't say that Google Chrome is also dead .

#ArcBrowser came to the "stable" state, that's why it slowed down in updates that change UI features or other visible changes. But my problem with it that couple of those features aren't polished enough, like changing tabs with hotkeys when sidebar is hidden.

Still my main browser for now.

#Zen is too buggy and Mozilla web engine underperforms on MacOs imo, while #Vivaldi has too many features I'm never going to use

読んだ!
けど #Arc が今後あまり更新されなくなる(メンテナンスモード的なこと?)ということと、The Browser Company はなにか #ArcBrowser じゃない新しいブラウザーのようなものを作る方に時間と力を注ぐのだということと、それが何やら AI 的な機能をより中心に考えたなにか、なのだということ以外よくわからなかった。

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#Vivaldi :vivaldi_red: の新しい UI 、全体的にちょっとモダンな感じになって良い。
#ArcBrowser とかが好きな人にも刺さりやすくなった気がする :tony_normal:

なお Appearance 設定で Compact を選択すれば従来の UI に戻せるっぽい

Those of you who had followed me, know that I am a double-browser user: @Waterfox and @Vivaldi . And that was true. Until now.

Today I decided to switch a new browser - to be honest, two new browsers.

One of them is Zen Browser - perfect for me, at least (see screenshot below).

Why did I choose Zen Browser?

- I am a vertical tabs user and hate using horizontal tabs, since I want to see everything. So, yeah, by default - yes by default - Zen Browser offers vertical tabs.

- I don't own a Macbook or a Mac, but I always wanted to try out Arc Browser. So, uh, Zen Browser, is something like Arc Browser. Any feature of Arc Browser you name, and you have it in Zen Browser.

- Zen Browser is a fork of Firefox - a privacy focused one, yet, has modified UX, beautiful icons, and is just like....like I want it.

Here is the hugest reason I switched from Waterfox (and else Firefox or Firefox fork) to Zen Browser:

- Web pages speed.

As you know, in Firefox, webpages are taking a good amount of time to load. However, in Chromium browsers (like Vivaldi) , same websites are loading much faster, way, way much faster.

Soooo, what if, Firefox, while remaining a privacy-focused amazing browser, had a speed for websites as if it were a Chromium browser?

What if Firefox was fast as Chrome?

Zen Browser is the answer to that question.

Because it is fast as hell.

I know, by this time of reading that post, you are really skeptic now: "Is that browser open-source?" you ask. My answer? It is! The source code is available on GitHub.

Yes, Linux, Windows, and macOS supported.

I've seen a good amount of people making videos about this browser, so I decided to give it a try :-)

Which means I am more likely to discontinue using Waterfox.

Next, I no longer use Vivaldi. Today I switched to @brave instead.

What's that? Why are you staring me like this?

Don't tell me. I know what you gonna tell me. You don't have to tell me everything; I am absolutely aware of what will you tell me.

I don't trust Brave Browser either. In fact, that browser is quite suspicious to me and I, uh, dislike it.

Then why did I switched to it from Vivaldi?

Adblocking and trackerblocking is Brave's main focus. Brave, is, uh, "the best" when it comes to privacy. At least I've been told so......from Brave's website.

Before you tell me anything - yes, personally, I do believe Firefox (now Zen Browser in this case) is better. Yet, I, as a sort-of "backup", use Chromium browsers as well, if a Firefox browser will crash or will not react.

One more reason that I've done that double switch from Waterfox to Zen Browser and from Vivaldi to Brave Browser:

Vertical tabs. Yeah, I repeating myself, I know.

You see, I dunno what about you, but me personally, I want to see all tabs at once. And that's why I've done the switch.

I see you wanting to ask: "But why did you made the switch? You can have vertical tabs in Vivaldi and Waterfox too?....."

Truth to be told, it is. But I have some issues with these "vertical tabs".

Before I'll continue, please note that I run Linux Mint, 20.3, Cinnamon edition, on my Lenovo ThinkCentre Edge 90z.

Alright.

Vivaldi's vertical tabs (second screenshot) aren't bad. However, at some time, the "+" button under tabs stopped to appear, which confused me at the time. Checking now, seems to be having bug fixed.........

I was about to use the bug as an excuse to use Brave's vertical tabs instead...maybe it was due to my OS....well, at least I said it previously that because of Brave's focus on adblocking and privacy, I'll switch to it. Yeah, sometimes ads do display in both Waterfox and Vivaldi, and yes, yes, and yes, I do, I DO have uBlock Origin and others well-recommended extensions installed. However, due to YouTube fight with adblockers, even they don't help, while Brave does blocks YouTube's blocker of adblockers.

My main browser will be Zen Browser now (which before was Waterfox) and my second browser will be Brave (which before was Vivaldi).

I am not saying that these browsers are perfect or so whatever, I am just trying them out. If I'll dislike either of these, I'll switch back.

Links:

To try out Zen Browser (with link to GitHub): zen-browser.app

To try, uh, Brave......brave.com

*P.S. I plan to switch from Linux Mint to Arc Linux.*

*P.S.2. BTW, I didn't wanted to switch to Brave until I watched @distrotube 's one of the latest videos about why use Brave. Same about Arc Linux: his 1 year video helped me to understand the difference between Mint and Arc.*

#ZenBrowser#zen#brave
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@sarajw

The Arc Browser by The Browser Company.

I started using it about two months ago, and haven't looked back.

The way the company has re-imagined the web browser is something that needs much more attention.

arc.net/

(And no, this isn't a paid endorsement. I really love + use Arc 🙂)

arc.netArc from The Browser CompanyExperience a calmer, more personal internet in this browser designed for you. Let go of the clicks, the clutter, the distractions.

I just installed #ArcBrowser and it immediately made me angry. If I didn't need this app for other purposes, I'd be throwing it in the trash and never touching it again.

Some examples:
- "welcome" screen does effects + music w/ a fullscreen window you can't click out of. Very disruptive to the work meeting I was on; I couldn't get back to the meeting to mute my mic.
- onboarding is full of dark pattern language
- using the app seems to require an account
- broken system UX (drag&drop, ⌘Q, etc)

Arc has been my daily driver for several weeks now and I'm really enjoying it (aside from some minor annoyances dealing with iCloud Keychain).

It's finally on Windows! Doesn't look like it has feature parity with the macOS version yet but I can't imagine that will last very long.

#ArcBrowser #windows

techcrunch.com/2024/04/30/the-

TechCrunch · The Browser Company releases Arc for Windows | TechCrunchThe Browser Company, makers of the Arc web browser, released its Windows version today. The company started testing the Windows client in December, and it