@BryanGreyson so I guess @fairphone / #Fairphone did not partner with @GrapheneOS / #GrapheneOS nor did they reverse their #FeatureRegression since #Fairphone3 (removal of 3,5mm jack, removal of 2nd #SIM slot because #eSIM is not real #DualSIM!) ?
@Lijo +9001%
Doof nur dass #Fairphone das nach dem #FP3plus #downgraded hat...
As much as I dunk on #Fairphone for #downgrading every device since the #FP3plus, they at least live the "#SchematicsOrDie!" principle and actually deliver #Schematics, #BoardView and #ComponentList on their website in a publicly accessible #PDF...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAogtqyN22M
In all seriousness tho: they ain't perfect but the best there is in terms of "you csn buy this right now in stores" kinda brand that isn't some obsure crowdfunding thingy but has an actual track record!
@empathicqubit the reason I didn't buy the #Fairphone4 (and #WontBuy the #Fairphone5) is because it's a massive #downgrade from the #Fairphone3+:
no real #DualSIM (#eSIM is not a valid replacement unless it's a removeable #SIM card!)
Removal of 3,5mm #TRRS jack (#Sony made #waterproof jacks over a decade ago for their #Xperia Z line!)
Way more expensive (I'm not gonna pay > €500 for a smartphone!) than is reasonable for any smartphone whatsoever.
No features worth the cost of upgrading; only #downgrade|s!
@voxel @thenewoil personally, I refuse to buy any #phone that doesn't have #toolfree swappable & removeable batteries as a matter of principle.
I just don't accept #Enshittification!
@krutonium @quasigod I mean the advantage is that those devices are supported with @GrapheneOS ...
Personally, I need my #ToolfreeSwappableBattery, #DualSIM and #microSD as well s #HeadphoneJack and won't negotiate these, so #Fairphone is already loosing me as a customer and my next device will likely be something else...
@Linux_Is_Best personally, I'm sad #GrapheneOS is only available for very few devices, none of which are repairable or have the required feature set I need (real #DualSIM, 3,5mm TRRS Jack, toolfree-swappable battery, #microSD slot)...
@Germo The problem I have is that #eSIM restricts my #FreedomOfChoice re: #Devices.
Same with #eSIM: I can put that on a #SIM #Card *but I can't swap the soldered-down #Chip!
And yes, I routinely use #eSIMcards because I get the #freedom and #flexibility of choice, because it's noone's business which #device I use Which #plans on!
Plus many plans I want to use and/or help people to setup are #SIMonly and not available as #eSIM (i.e. #netzclub)...
I dare you to try to deploy an #eSIM on a #2Gonly #StupidPhone whereas a regular SIM can just be chugged in!
@phranck @necrosis leider nein...
#Fairphone hat nicht nur Preise angezogen, sondern auch #Klinkenbuchse & #DualSIM gecancelt...
@necrosis ich mag mein #FP3plus.
Dabei will ich nicht viel:
Ist das so schwer?
@halva +9001%
Just like #ToolfreeSwappableBattery and real #DualSIM (not #eSIM! If I want that I'll get that myself...)
@LunaDragofelis Yeah, and I demand #Fairphone to unfuck that shit and give ma back a proper #DualSIM device with the #Fairphome6 as #Sony did #Waterproof Smartphones back in the early 2010s.
What really pisses me off is that everyone thinks @frameworkcomputer and #Fairphone are glorious, when in fact even #Framework13 & #Fairphone4 / #Fairphone5 are objectively #Downgrade|s compared to what I'm currently using: [ #ThinkPad #X230Tablet & #Fairphone3plus ]
The newer Fairphones don't have real #DualSIM and instead of a 2nd SIM Slot a shitty #eSIM and removed the #HeadphoneJack for no valid reason!
#Framework doesn't have #ToolfreeSwappable #Batteries so having more #offgrid range isn't done by a quick swap on the go.
@RL_Dane @joel except the Pixel devices are glued shut and don't have #DualSIM nir #microSD anymore...
https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/113294940481260978
@Pandora @murena @e_mydata @gael
I am aware of #murena and #eOS and I do think they are great.
It's just that with the #Fairphone3plus being #OutOfProduction there isn't any viable option that ticks my boxes...
no real #DualSIM and no #HeadphoneJack are #WontBuy for me, even if some people think having the freedom to switch devices without the network operators' blessing and being able to just plug in a decent headphone instead of some #unrepariable #bluetooth #garbage is a "nieche case"...
Why are there no good phones on the market?
I don't want much:
#Android (#iOS is cringe and everything else is either a rounding error or dead anyway!)
#HeadphoneJack (Cuz I use that thing and #USB-#Dongles are shite! #Sony already did #Waterproof #Smartphones WITH 3,5mm Jacks over a decade ago!)
#DualSIM (And I mean real Dual-SIM, not #eSIM! with TWO real basebands to be able to have data & calling at the same time, cuz I need that! Bonus Points if it's baseband works with #SnoopSnitch... )
#repairable like a #Fairphone ( #ToolfreeSwappable #Batteries are non-negotiable! Bonus Points if it can run off USB-C power only w/o a battery or allows hot-swapping of batteries w/o interruptions!)
#affordable ( < €500 ) or at least not absurdly expensive. (If I gonna pay like €1k+ I might just buy an #Iridium Extreme 9575 PTT used or an #IridiumGOexec instead!=
No #Bloatware (this includes no #GAPPS / #GoogleApps as mandated for #GooglePlay! Just give me #LineageOS or like a clean #AOSP image...)
@darth There's a simple fix for #SailfishOS & #JollaPhone:
After all, #Fairphone can do that too, and they provide a way better product with the #Fairphone3plus [abeit they #Enshittified #Fairphone4 & #Fairphone5 by removing #HealdphoneJack and real #DualSIM capabilities! (#eSIM doesn't count!)]....
@CppGuy @Jessica not exactly...
#Fairphone is #enshittifying faster by killing non-negotiable features like a #HeadphoneJack and real #DualSIM (if I want an #eSIM I'd buy an eSIM-card - yes those exist!)...
@Jessica +9001%
I want a #repairable, #affordable and #compact / #grippable device I can actually use for more than 15mins off the wall.
Amd if modern phones cost the same if not more, I might just buy one just to make #robocalling more expensive...
