@hosford42 @fightfascism

Hi Aaron, you've got some pretty stupid notions about some real world circumstances, like even thinking that us Hams (Radio Amateurs) would even give you the time of day if you dared to operate outside the legal standards and rules codified into law by international treaties.

Also, as someone who's literally spent years completely off-grid killing and growing my own food and surviving in the wilderness, miles from the nearest humans, I can say unequivocally that you would not survive one single winter in the harsh and unforgiving environments I speak of without your thermostat, warrior keyboard, and electric light with forced air heating.

Now that we have that out of the way, I'll offer to you a couple of real world solutions that are already in production use that you can avail yourself of, considering you are suggesting that "someone" needs to develop such technologies -they have already, and you're welcome to leverage those communications systems here:

https://simplex.chat/ (Uses IP) #SimpleX

https://github.com/permissionlesstech/bitchat

The latter does NOT use IP (Internet, from your perspective). Instead, it depends upon BLE mesh, the otherwise premier surveillance network of choice by Amazon "Sidewalk", Google, and the same type of mesh networking that enables 3D GPS coordinate pinpointing of Apple AirTags.

#BitChat also has leveraging of WiFi mesh networks on the roadmap as well, and like #BLE, it is another network service that you typically CANNOT turn off (unlike regular Bluetooth and WiFi of your home SSID). Yes, it works nearby PtP & P2P at distances varying between 100 to occasionally 300 meters, where regular Bluetooth is 30 to 40 feet.

There are others, to be certain, but you should be able to deploy these without any handholding.

And stay off the Ham bands! We (licensed radio amateurs) don't tolerate miscreants such as yourself violating operating procedures or disrespecting the band plans for any given country - people like you and your fellow BOLSHEVIK pretenders should stay on 11 meters with all the other fucking poseurs.

Have a great day and I hope you find SimpleX and/or Bitchat to be valuable real world tools for solutions to meet your objectives, whatever they are, and in achieving the level of privacy and security that you require.

@Klimakipppunkt probably Threema Work.
#Matrix is used by the German #Bundeswehr, and #XMPP by the German #police btw.
Also Threema can see who writes who, while Signal technically cant, even if US based, sure there are other attackvectors, like via Cloudflare but one would have to trust Threema more than Signal.
Also #Threema doesnt have #PostQuantumEncryption as of now.
#SimpleX would potentially tick all the boxes, but it's still a bit small.
@desirable_dialogue

@pelle @ambiguous_yelp @davidgerard

ok the xitter acc of #Simplex founder is indeed a hellhole:
https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin

do you know who else is involved in the project?

@pelle @ambiguous_yelp @davidgerard
I went looking for the problematic views of the #Simplex governing body you described and was able to find a very lucid response to fearmongering by Wired.com:

https://simplex.chat/blog/20241016-wired-attack-on-privacy.html

So far nothing else turned up that raised my suspicion.
Could you point me in a direction to look deeper into this?

@ambiguous_yelp @davidgerard
it's fine that one could hypothetically setup a non-fash relay and fork #simplex to be able to select this relay on initial setup.

however, since that hasn't happened yet, you're recommending "anti-vaxx, believing COVID-19 was a hoax, trans- and homophobia, climate denial" chat app.

let's not downplay fascism as merely "views."

@davidgerard why is #simplex anti recommended, I don't agree with the founders views either I think theyre dangerous but can't we just run our own relay servers and moderate them how we like? In terms of the protocol I don't think there is any messenger more secure against state adversaries

@rysiek @simplex The #SimpleX brand account also promotes right wing slop, retweets posts from right wing accounts, and "love[s] Twitter and the role it plays in the world."

It's not at all disconnected from the project itself. This defending of right wing bullshit under the guise of "defending free speech" appears to be inherent to SimpleX's philosophy. Of course, people will screech about "keep politicks out oaf mah softwayre!!"

Evgeny also retweets Lunduke lol.

@luana @java @b #simplex is #FLOSS quantum-resistant #e2ee decentralised (relay network), reportedly easy self-hosting, hosts rooms with thousands of users or just a few, member permissions, custom room permissions and unique to simplex: no user ids, each dm or group it basically creates a new cryptographic id

@uhuru
#DeltaChat has no forward secrecy.
And depended on SHA-1 and using MD5.
Both are considered weak cryptography if I'm not mistaken.
While I believe deltachat to be a great app with good use case, it's not what I'm looking for.

#xmpp ecosystem is?/was! pretty bad in serving proper e2ee cross platform implementation.
Till recently there was only conversations as a usable app. Since some weeks ago it seems that @dino now also offers e2ee by default. But also both conversations and Dino using an outdated omemo specification, and are by that not compatible with @kaidan.
I will reconsider xmpp when they adapt the newer specification.

@briar not mentioned, but also no, cause it's not working on #TailsOS or on android with Orbot.
So very much unusable, since it's not running on the platforms we use.

#simplex, no, I don't like nor trust the dev.

#cwtch, yes, maybe

@kuketzblog
Fast niemand verifiziert die Fingerprints. Signal kann einfach MiTM machen bei initialem Kontakt.
Sie hätten ja auch den Fingerprint im den Nutzernamen /QR Code packen können, wie #SimpleX - haben sie aber nicht.

Some of you may have heart of #simplex which likes to elevate itself as "the first messenger without user-ids" ... a goal, similar to ours, of not letting the transport layer know about who talks. Only we are doing it in the email system, fully interoperable with tens of thousands of existing email servers and other #openpgp endpoints. The email system is much more than SMTP/IMAP or even openpgp btw ... there is plenty of room for radical shifts and new takes. We are just starting :)

Ecco la registrazione della riunione didattica con il NaLUG sulle chat libere, decentralizzate e private del 5 aprile.

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