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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://masto.hackers.town/@earthshine" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>earthshine</span></a></span> or a more cynical take: </p><ul><li><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Canonical" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Canonical</span></a> giving away <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ubuntu.social/@ubuntu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ubuntu</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Ubuntu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Ubuntu</span></a> for free to users is fine because big corporations will license <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Landscape" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Landscape</span></a> amd buy into other services. The few businesses that don't need that ain't worth pursuing for license fees becaise it doesn't justify the cost of doing so.</p></li><li><p>Same with <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@opensuse" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>opensuse</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSUSE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSUSE</span></a>: Big corporate users want <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLES" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLES</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLED" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLED</span></a>. </p></li><li><p>Even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Oracle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Oracle</span></a> understands that with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OracleLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OracleLinux</span></a>. Only <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RedHat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RedHat</span></a> seem to have forgotten that when they killed <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CentOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CentOS</span></a>!</p></li></ul>
Y⃒̸̷̝̜̙ͥͥͥngmar<p>The old man's firewood sled. Someone built it from two ancient wooden skis and a wooden crate nailed on top. A stick joins them at the front with some string for pulling.</p><p>Recycled this today as we have no use for it and it was falling apart.</p><p>There's another pair of those wooden skis in the barn, in better condition. They look hand made.</p><p><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Ski" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Ski</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Woodworking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Woodworking</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Homestead" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Homestead</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Sled" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Sled</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Cleanup" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cleanup</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@BenBen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>BenBen</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@fabiscafe" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>fabiscafe</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@okapi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>okapi</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@chesheer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>chesheer</span></a></span> I don't deny this to be a problem, far from it.</p><ul><li>In an ideal world, stuff would be portable enough that the underlying <code>init</code> (and <code>Userland</code> in general) as well as Kernel didn't matter and merely be a different config file.</li></ul><p>In reality, a substantial part of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Gnome" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Gnome</span></a> devs (or at least contributors) are paid by the 3 major <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> distros (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RHEL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RHEL</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLED" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLED</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Ubuntu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Ubuntu</span></a>) and whilst not being antragonistic towards <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BSD</span></a>|s don't get employed to enshure it runs on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FreeBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FreeBSD</span></a>, but that it runs <em>better</em> on the distro their employer is <em>selling</em>…</p><ul><li>And given that these projects don't have infinite resources and espechally maintainers I don't blame them to redelegate a lot of work to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SystemD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SystemD</span></a> instead of reimplementing something themselves.</li></ul><p>OFC it's saddening in regards to non-Linux <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Unix</span></a>-esque OSes, but given self-amplifying network effects both the murder of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSolaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSolaris</span></a> at the hands of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Oracle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Oracle</span></a> (with <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>EUCommission</span></a></span> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FTC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FTC</span></a> as enablers!) and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@iXsystems" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>iXsystems</span></a></span> ditching <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FreeBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FreeBSD</span></a> in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/trueNAS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>trueNAS</span></a> alongside regressing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/driver" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>driver</span></a> support for hardware outside of Linux, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/macOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>macOS</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Windows</span></a>, it's not a good time for these projects.</p><ul><li>Which is bad because BSDs and other OSes force Linux to innovate and <em>' <code>get gud</code> '</em>!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://circumstances.run/@davidgerard" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>davidgerard</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@cleverboi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>cleverboi</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@RecurringBloatware" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>RecurringBloatware</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hessen.social/@rdfhrn" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>rdfhrn</span></a></span> and because <em>"installing another shell"</em> is like <em>"installing a compiler on a production system"</em>.</p><ul><li>At least a gross violation of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BestPractises" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BestPractises</span></a> with regulations, if not a ticket to get a nonconsensual meeting with HR and security escorting one off premises...</li></ul><p>So yeah, <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114655105449919349" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">I've deal with</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/bash" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>bash</span></a> simply because it's the only <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/shell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>shell</span></a> I can reliably expect on any relevant <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> distro I'm working on (aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Ubuntu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Ubuntu</span></a> LTS, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLES" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLES</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLED" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLED</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RHEL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RHEL</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Debian</span></a>) ...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@graste" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>graste</span></a></span> <em>nodds in agreement</em></p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ubuntu.social/@ubuntu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ubuntu</span></a></span>, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@opensuse" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>opensuse</span></a></span> , <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLED" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLED</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RHEL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RHEL</span></a> WS, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@fedora" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>fedora</span></a></span> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OracleLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OracleLinux</span></a> have 0 excuses for neglecting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/accessibility" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>accessibility</span></a>.</p><ul><li>They have the money to actually fix this shit!</li></ul><p>And yes, they need to <em>do better</em> because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Apple</span></a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/macOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>macOS</span></a> does so from the start!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chitter.xyz/@annantidote" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>annantidote</span></a></span> AFAIK, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@almalinux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>almalinux</span></a></span> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@rockylinux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>rockylinux</span></a></span> alongside <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@centos" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>centos</span></a></span> are supoorted.</p><ul><li>The only proven to be supported option is the Studio version on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RHEL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RHEL</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Workstation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Workstation</span></a> (notshure if <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@SUSE" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>SUSE</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SUSE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SUSE</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLED" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLED</span></a> or <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@thelinuxcast" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>thelinuxcast</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSUSE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSUSE</span></a> support it!)...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@RandamuMaki" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>RandamuMaki</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://retro.pizza/@ColetteDiskette" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ColetteDiskette</span></a></span> Contractual Obligations re: Support with SLAs and the option to yell at someone on the phone who's obligated to unfck it.</p><ul><li>It's why people pay <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ubuntu.social/@ubuntu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ubuntu</span></a></span>, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@redhat" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>redhat</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RHEL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RHEL</span></a> &amp; <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@SUSE" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>SUSE</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLES" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLES</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLED" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLED</span></a>...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://layer8.space/@killyourfm" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>killyourfm</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Funfact" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Funfact</span></a>: Basically any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> I know (okay, except <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLES" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLES</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLED" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLED</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RHEL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RHEL</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OracleLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OracleLinux</span></a> with a subscription) allow users to install their system on an external drive.</p><ul><li>And with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Steam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Steam</span></a> it's just choosing a different drive to install games to. </li></ul><p>Still, I do welcome options that make it <em>even easier</em>...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hessen.social/@ustralien" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ustralien</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://digitalcourage.social/@DirkBoente" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>DirkBoente</span></a></span> Gibt genug Anbieter, besonders bei Mainstream distros wie <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ubuntu.social/@ubuntu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ubuntu</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuLTS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UbuntuLTS</span></a>, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@SUSE" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>SUSE</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLES" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLES</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLED" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLED</span></a> &amp; <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@redhat" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>redhat</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RHEL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RHEL</span></a> ...</p><p>Leute kaufen ja auch nicht mehr Porsche oder Lada wenn das die einzigen Händker im Dorf sind...</p><p>Selbst fucking <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Apple</span></a> ist besser weil nicht nur <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Backups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Backups</span></a>.funktionieren sondern all der ganze <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cloud" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cloud</span></a>-Bullshit abstellbar ist!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Recall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Recall</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Copilot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Copilot</span></a> are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/YetAnotherReason" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>YetAnotherReason</span></a> why I'd rather buy a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RHEL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RHEL</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLES" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLES</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLED" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLED</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OravleLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OravleLinux</span></a> <em>AND</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Solaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Solaris</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/subscription" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>subscription</span></a> <em>at the same time</em> than ever touch <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Windows11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Windows11</span></a>!</p><ul><li>That <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Govware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Govware</span></a> should be outlawed!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@ravirockks" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ravirockks</span></a></span> OFC they don't.</p><ul><li>And by <em>"don't</em> I don't mean <em>"teach <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/assembly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>assembly</span></a> and CPU architectures"</em> but <em>anything that goes beyond <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LinusTechTips" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LinusTechTips</span></a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tutorials" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tutorials</span></a></em>...</li></ul><p>At best they show people how to change fan curves in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UEFI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UEFI</span></a> or hiw to run <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/memtest86" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>memtest86</span></a>+, but mostly they just <em>"teach" people how to consume <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Windows</span></a> and at best <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/macOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>macOS</span></a></em> and that's it.</p><ul><li>I mean I don't expect any training center to teach people how to build <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mkroot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mkroot</span></a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>toybox</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a>) or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LinuxFromScratch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LinuxFromScratch</span></a> but at least showing people how to use <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ubuntu.social/@ubuntu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ubuntu</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuLTS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UbuntuLTS</span></a> &amp; <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://venera.social/profile/tails_live" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>tails_live</span></a></span> / <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@tails" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>tails</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tails" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tails</span></a> should be in the cards if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RHEL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RHEL</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLES" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLES</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLED" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLED</span></a> isn't.</li></ul><p>Same with <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@libreoffice" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>libreoffice</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LibreOffice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LibreOffice</span></a> &amp; <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>thunderbird</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Thunderbird</span></a>.</p><ul><li>At least the most pointless certification - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ECDL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ECDL</span></a> - isn't hard-locked to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Windows11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Windows11</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MicrosoftOffice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MicrosoftOffice</span></a> <em>per-se</em>!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://kirche.social/@jakob_thoboell" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>jakob_thoboell</span></a></span> @<u>DigitalWriter</u>@bildung.social <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.cologne/@jdohrmann" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>jdohrmann</span></a></span> insbesondere passt der Vergleich weil <a href="https://kirche.social/@jakob_thoboell/113460654549559410" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">IT</a> nicht wie kommerzielle zivile Luftfahrt ist und Piloten dort nur auf nachweislich trainierten Jets eingesetzt werden dürfen...</p><ul><li>Von mir wird auch erwartet dass ich im Zweifelsfalle nicht nur <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuLTS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UbuntuLTS</span></a>, sondern auch <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RHEL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RHEL</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLES" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLES</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLED" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLED</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OracleLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OracleLinux</span></a> oder gar <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/macOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>macOS</span></a> einrichten und warten kann...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://labyrinth.zone/users/mjdxp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>mjdxp</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chitter.xyz/@efi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>efi</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://transfem.social/@puppygirlhornypost2" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>puppygirlhornypost2</span></a></span> personally, I'm glad that I only need <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuLTS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UbuntuLTS</span></a>, but if I ever were to supoort <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RHEL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RHEL</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLED" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLED</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLES" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLES</span></a> I'd just use my existing developer agreements which allow me to setup as many installs as I like for testing, development, support and evaluation pending I don't use them <em>"in production"</em> aka. run my business off them.</p> <p>In terms of commercial distros I'd actually consider buying a subscription, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Ubuntu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Ubuntu</span></a> is the option I'd consider given it's entirely optional to get their commercial support <em>and</em> the only difference besides support are few addon features, and not entirely different distros that have vast differences between the <em>"open"</em> and <em>"commercial"</em> offerings in terms of underlying architecture.</p><ul><li>But maybe it's just me being unwilling to pay 8x (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RedHat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RedHat</span></a>) or 4x (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SUSE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SUSE</span></a>) of what <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Canonical" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Canonical</span></a> demands for the same SLAs... [based off a real-life cost analysis for a fmr. employer/client]</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@muhkayoh" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>muhkayoh</span></a></span> I really wish for more <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CreativeSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CreativeSoftware</span></a> to support <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/finalcutOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>finalcutOS</span></a> aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/macOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>macOS</span></a> becomes more and more <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/enshittified" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>enshittified</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Windows</span></a> and I'd rather bite the bullet and pay for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RHEL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RHEL</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLED" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLED</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuPro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UbuntuPro</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/subscriptions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>subscriptions</span></a> instead of having to deal with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Apple</span></a>'s <em>"my way or the highway"</em> attitude towards Hardware (regardless of all the valid criticism towards <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/nvidia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>nvidia</span></a> just to name the elephant in the room)...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://noc.social/@hgfernan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>hgfernan</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@textovervideo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>textovervideo</span></a></span> well, <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@textovervideo/113138842050942459" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">the original poll</a> asked about <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2Danimation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2Danimation</span></a> and both <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MohoStudio" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MohoStudio</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ToonboomHarmony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ToonboomHarmony</span></a> are the prime (abeit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CCSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CCSS</span></a> and not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FLOSS</span></a>) tools the industry uses.</p><ul><li>May it be <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Wolfwalkers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Wolfwalkers</span></a>"</em> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Moho" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Moho</span></a>) or <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KimPossible" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KimPossible</span></a>"</em> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Toonboom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Toonboom</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Harmony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Harmony</span></a>), and with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Adobe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Adobe</span></a> axing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Animate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Animate</span></a> nee. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Flash" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Flash</span></a> they basically form a duopoly in commercial <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2D" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2D</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/animation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>animation</span></a> software for cartoons.</li></ul><p>That being said, a lot of people may be content with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Blender" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Blender</span></a>'s options as something cheaper (aka. free as in FLOSS) with way more accessible <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>documentation</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/community" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>community</span></a> and support resources.</p><ul><li>Anyway, it's sad to see <em>both</em> big players don't even support <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RHEL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RHEL</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLED" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLED</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Ubuntu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Ubuntu</span></a> LTS Desktop...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@carlwgeorge" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>carlwgeorge</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@vermaden" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>vermaden</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@samurro" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>samurro</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@tara" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>tara</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://linuxmom.net/@vkc" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>vkc</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@BrodieOnLinux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>BrodieOnLinux</span></a></span> </p><p>Cuz for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/devs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>devs</span></a> it was very convenient to target <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CentOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CentOS</span></a> and test against it since it's basically identical to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RHEL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RHEL</span></a> - <em>minus the commercial support</em> - which also drove adoption of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RedHat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RedHat</span></a>'s distro.</p><ul><li>Similar to how in many cases <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSUSE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSUSE</span></a> allowed most of the devs targeting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLES" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLES</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLED" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLED</span></a> to get away not having to buy many machines and how the only.difference between <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuLTS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UbuntuLTS</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuPro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UbuntuPro</span></a> are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Landscape" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Landscape</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ESM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ESM</span></a> repos and getting 10years of paid per annum instead of 5 years free security updates.</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ohai.social/@jascha" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>jascha</span></a></span> Ich würde jedenfalls eher für <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuPro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UbuntuPro</span></a> oder <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLED" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLED</span></a> zahlen als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Microsoft365" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Microsoft365</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Office365" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Office365</span></a>...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://pfalz.social/@Saupreiss" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Saupreiss</span></a></span> Klar, nur bietet <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Microsoft</span></a> nichtmals ansatzweise die Menge an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Support" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Support</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Assurance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Assurance</span></a> an die <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> Distros wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RHEL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RHEL</span></a> (Workstation), <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLES" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLES</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLED" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SLED</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuLTS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UbuntuLTS</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OracleLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OracleLinux</span></a> abmnbieten obwohl <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Windows</span></a> und besonders <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WindowsServer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WindowsServer</span></a> deutlich teurer durchzulizensieren ist.</p><p>Außerdem ist das komplette <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Antimalware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Antimalware</span></a>"</em> / <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Antivirus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Antivirus</span></a>"</em> - Business doch einfach nur <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scareware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Scareware</span></a> die auf <em>kongnitive Dissonanz</em> abzielt weil Leute die <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WindowsDefender" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WindowsDefender</span></a> misstrauen nicht gleich die <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Govware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Govware</span></a> namens Windows mit enstorgen!</p>
Chris Boese<p>Shed, Sled, and Folding Chair<br>.<br>.<br>.<br><a href="https://www.chrisboese.photo/warehouse-open-edition-prints/art_print_products/chris-boese-velvet-sled-and-folding-chair" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">chrisboese.photo/warehouse-ope</span><span class="invisible">n-edition-prints/art_print_products/chris-boese-velvet-sled-and-folding-chair</span></a><br>.<br><a href="https://newsie.social/tags/shedsledandfoldingchair" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>shedsledandfoldingchair</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/light" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>light</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/art" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>art</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/shed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>shed</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/photography" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>photography</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/antiques" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>antiques</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/hidden" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>hidden</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/treasures" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>treasures</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/sled" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sled</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/runner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>runner</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/rosebud" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>rosebud</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/sidelight" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sidelight</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/mastoart" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mastoart</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/mastodonart" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mastodonart</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/chrisboese" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>chrisboese</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/boesegalleries" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>boesegalleries</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/expression" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>expression</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/beauty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>beauty</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/artist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>artist</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/art" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>art</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/artwork" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>artwork</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/color" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>color</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/contemporaryart" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>contemporaryart</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/heart" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>heart</span></a> <a href="https://newsie.social/tags/love" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>love</span></a></p>
AI6YR Ben<p>Rosebud, Rosebud! <a href="https://m.ai6yr.org/tags/Rosebud" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Rosebud</span></a> <a href="https://m.ai6yr.org/tags/sled" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sled</span></a></p>