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@MsDropbear42 Oh ffs, this latest experiment with :zenbrowser: #ZenBrowser has ended after only a few hours, due to yet another catastrophic failure, preceded by various annoyances:

  • the dedicated Search Bar refused to show the drop-down menu of alternative search engines [works fine in :firefox: and :firefox_nightly: ]
  • the #Stylus AO refused to respond to clicks on its various usage & management icons in its drop-down menu [works fine in :firefox: and :firefox_nightly: ]
  • a link i opened from my Masto #Statuzer page decided to behave like i'd used #Glance [i did not], then when i converted it into a normal tab, entirely froze the Statuzer tab
  • wondering if possibly restarting Zen might fix the above, i tried to do so, which then destroyed my carefully crafted Zen profile... what ensued was a UI without various standard changes i'd made [eg, the Search Bar was gone again, the native tabs bar refused to Collapse again], but worst of all, all my open tabs were gone... again 😲 🤯🙄🤦‍♀️😡

My dear old :firefox_nightly: might be less pretty, less visually exciting, & might not have native split tabs, but far out it is & remains way way waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more reliable than Zen. I mean, it's really a bit silly... :firefox_nightly: is Alpha, :zenbrowser: is Beta, yet the former is generally rock solid reliable in the ~decade i've been using it. Otoh, all my experiments with Zen, over the past ~12-18 months, have ended in disappointment, frustration, & often also destruction.

So, yet again, i return to...

:firefox_nightly: #FirefoxNightly + #Mv2 #uBO + #Sidebery + #FirefoxSecondSidebar = THE best browsing & sophisticated tab management + Web Panel UX i've ever had, easily eclipsing Vivaldi, :floorp: #Floorp, :zenbrowser: #ZenBrowser, Waterfox, LibreWolf... ergo = 💜🥳🎉👯‍♀️

:firefox_nightly: #FirefoxNightly + #NativeVerticalTabs + #uBlockOrigin + #FirefoxSecondSidebar = Very usable already as of Feb 2025, albeit less powerful than Sidebery, ergo = 💜 🎉

Have decided to give #ZenBrowser another go, but with conditions:

In case anyone wonders, this [temporary?] change from my hitherto daily :firefox_nightly: [#FirefoxNightly + #Sidebery + #uBlockOrigin + #FirefoxSecondSidebar] has nothing to do with the recent global #FUD wrt Mozilla's #TOU / #EULA, but instead is due to the aesthetic pleasantness of :zenbrowser: & the desire to use its #SplitTabView #TabSplitView #TabPaneView; two undeniable advantages over Nightly.

* the Zen subreddit is full of users posting that Zen spontaneously lost all their tabs, or all their pinned tabs, or all their unpinned tabs. In my own past months of using Zen with its native #Workspaces & tabs, it also happened to me, twice, & it is most exasperating.

GitHubGitHub - aminought/firefox-second-sidebar: A Firefox userChrome.js script for adding a second sidebar with web panels like in Vivaldi/Floorp/Zen but better.A Firefox userChrome.js script for adding a second sidebar with web panels like in Vivaldi/Floorp/Zen but better. - aminought/firefox-second-sidebar

This might be interesting. My :firefox_nightly: just updated from Nightly 138.0a1 (20250306092841); Installed on: 7 March 2025 at 08:53:02 to Nightly 138.0a1 (20250306213030); Installed on: 7 March 2025 at 12:53:01. Looking thru its Settings for any obvious changes, i found this new section:

Contrast Control
Websites have a variety of foreground and background colors. Configure Nightly to use the same colors across websites for improved readability.
Automatic (use system settings)
Off
Custom

I might play around with the AO #DarkReader disabled, & trying different parameters here.

:firefox_nightly: #FirefoxNightly + #Sidebery + #uBlockOrigin + #FirefoxSecondSidebar = 💜🥳🎉👯‍♀️
:firefox_nightly: #FirefoxNightly + #NativeVerticalTabs + #uBlockOrigin + #FirefoxSecondSidebar = 💜 🎉

In my :firefox_nightly: i have just accidentally discovered how to make the irritating column of shortcuts at the bottom of the native #VerticalTabs bar, change from space-wasting vertical, to space-saving horizontal. It was totes unintuitive. Now i have a small glow of smug success, almost like i imagine competent peeps might sometimes feel, even though i utterly fluked this & actually exhibited no skill at all.

:firefox_nightly: #FirefoxNightly has been my default browser for years [albeit with occasional wanderings off the path for dalliances with some others 🤭]. Despite the way some dopey Redditors constantly try talking it down as "too unstable for daily use", my experience has given the lie to that propaganda. That said, it is true that occasionally, rarely, there are little wobbles, & i'm now "enjoying" one.

Version Nightly 137.0a1 (20250204145611) Installed on: 5 February 2025 at 10:15:30 is exhibiting three interesting little bugs, all of which i surmise relate to something having gone wrong overnight in its #Wayland compatibility

  • at each launch, the :firefox_nightly: window is now not properly remembering its last size, so needs me to drag its side & bottom edges back to where they should be
  • its native middle-mouse-button AutoScroll function still works fine, but the distinctive cursor accompanying it is now generated at least 300 px away from the initiation place, which is disconcerting
  • the Overflow Menu & general options hamburger menu icons are ofc at the top rhs of the browser, but now their actual dropdown menus appear on the far lhs of the browser

I recall similar problems a few years ago when the FF Devs were still settling in their then-new native Wayland compatibility. I surmise something they've recently changed has interfered now with Wayland. It'll be interesting to see how fast they fix this new bug.

cc: @firefoxnightly

:firefox_nightly: #FirefoxNightly + #Sidebery + #uBlockOrigin + #FirefoxSecondSidebar = 💜 🎉 🥳 👯‍♀️

I've loved using the superb AO #Sidebery in my :firefox_nightly: for many years. Nevertheless i have been keeping an eye on the FF Devs' progress with native #VerticalTabs in #FirefoxNightly over the past several months. A couple of days ago i decided to create a new profile [using the new Profile paradigm in Nightly], into which i installed all the same AOs [except ofc not Sidebery this time], copied across all my bookmarks, passwords, form data etc, to basically replicate my familiar browsing setup except this time with the native VTs & #TabGroups.

I've used this new profile instead of my usual Sidebery profile for the past day, to do all my normal browsing, so i can get a good feel for the viability or not of this native paradigm. Sidebery's hierarchical infinitely-nestable tree-structure is vastly superior to any & all simple flat tab-groups paradigms like Vivaldi, Floorp, Zen, & Chromium... & now also Nightly, but i'm trying to be tenacious & tolerate it so i can make it a worthy IRL comparison test.

However what's highly irritating is the profligate waste of vertical space of these native VTs compared to Sidebery; see pic. Multiple times i have launched the Nightly #BrowserToolbox UI & tried to discover the specific css code controlling the huge padding & excessive vertical height of these tabs, so i can drastically reduce it in my #userChromeCSS... but each time it seems to evade me [i'm not very good at this].

Can any actual Devs or otherwise keen FF UI modders please point me to the code in question?

mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/136.

Starting with Firefox 136, profile management is now available in Nightly builds. Users can now more easily create and switch between different profiles.

mozilla.hosted.panopto.com/Pan

Linked video shows how to use the new Profiles paradigm, but once more, is totes silent on how to migrate old Profiles into the new paradigm. This is exasperating me, coz i have four much-used existing profiles, & i do not feel like just throwing away all the work that went into building them up over recent years, just to begin afresh.

Hey @firefoxnightly @mozillaofficial howzabout you please explain to we Nightly users with old profiles, how to migrate them? I find the silence on this baffling.

:firefox_nightly: #FirefoxNightly + #Sidebery + #uBlockOrigin + #FirefoxSecondSidebar = 💜 🎉 🥳 👯‍♀️

MozillaFirefox Nightly 136.0a1, See All New Features, Updates and Fixes
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@dec_hl There is so sooooooooo much bullshit, #FUD & outright lies being spread about #Firefox lately. Don't want #AI in it? Fine, simply keep the setting disabled [as i do]. Don't want to be involved in the weirdarse ads thing mozilla did a few months ago? Fine, also keep that setting disabled [as i do]. Maybe Firefox will cease to be if gargle is forced to stop funding Firefox Search? Ok, if/when that happens, it would be time to find another browser, but it has not happened yet & might not happen at all, so running away screaming with hands waving in the air now, as many seem to advocate, is stupid.

My daily browsing experience continues to be magnificent with :firefox_nightly: #FirefoxNightly + #Sidebery + #uBlockOrigin + #FirefoxSecondSidebar [for #WebPanels].

:floorp: #Floorp 11 was nice to use for a while, but its replacement 12 is months late with minimal public info easily found.

:zenbrowser: #ZenBrowser recently progressed from Alpha to Beta status, but i stopped using it several weeks ago in frustration at the wild swings in browser design the Dev keeps trying. Certainly though it will be worthwhile revisiting once it reaches Stable phase.

Personally i will never ever use Chrome under any circumstances, only occasionally launch Chromium under sufferance, abandoned Vivaldi a couple of years ago, & also dislike Brave... so if the day does ever arise when FF is no more, the remaining choice will be odious indeed.

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@kkarhan @karlauerbach @adamshostack Fwiw...

So many peeps are writing so much stuff about the badness of #Firefox [due to the mismanagement by #Mozilla], & the "imminent" end of the Fox road if/when gargle stops funding Mozilla. I have a certain sympathy with such views. However it's the next part that gobsmacks me... all the despairing Foxers already abandoning FF, & jumping to some chromium poison. Far out, talk about an exercise in foot gun bang 🙄🤦‍♀️

Certainly, i dunno what the Fox Future will be, but jumping now at shadows seems perverse. By all means, let's jump some indeterminate time in the future if FF becomes actually dead, but for now, all i know is that my :firefox_nightly: #FirefoxNightly + #Mv2 #uBO + #Sidebery + #FirefoxSecondSidebar = THE best browsing & sophisticated tab management UX i've ever had, easily eclipsing Vivaldi, :floorp: #Floorp, :zenbrowser: #ZenBrowser, Waterfox, LibreWolf...

My Hashtag Dump [as part of my latest Instance-hop🤦‍♀️]

LAST EDITED 8/12/24

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#VerticalTabs
#Vivaldi
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#VivaldiSnapshot
#VivaldiStable
#Wayland
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@tag-whimsy

Shockingly, Nightly 124 has Chromeified the addressbar by hiding the "https://" domain prefix, hence i've restored it now by:

user_pref("browser.urlbar.trimURLs", false);

in my user.js.

So far, Beta & Vanilla remain ok, as does Floorp, ipso facto ESR. Oh btw, afaict there's no setting for this within about:preferences, so peeps need to do this either in their about.config, otherwise a user.js file.