Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://bsd.network/@brynet" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>brynet</span></a></span> personally, I think <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WMI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WMI</span></a> is <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Microsoft</span></a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a> strategy to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a>-ize functions that should belong into open ABIs like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ACPI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ACPI</span></a>! </p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACPI#History" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACPI#His</span><span class="invisible">tory</span></a></p>
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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://flipboard.com/@theverge" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>theverge</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://flipboard.com/@theverge/tech-news-e3qmqbb8z" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tech-news-theverge</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114408031693623764" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">yeah...</a></p><p>Meanwhile I recommend migrating to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebRTC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WebRTC</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JitsiMeet</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a> and espechally classic <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SIP</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VoIP</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linphone</span></a>! </p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Skype" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Skype</span></a> fucked up big time, but TBH it was <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Microsoft</span></a> doing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a> instead that killed it!</li></ul>
Robert Link<p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/spam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>spam</span></a> I don't care about a bluesky enabling app. Why is my feed suddenly blowing up over "SwILL"? (added a w just because)</p><p>Looks to me the the money at bluesky has taken official am at mastodon. </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,</span><span class="invisible">_extend,_and_extinguish</span></a></p>
Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://flipboard.social/@mike" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mike McCue</a> A new proposal for a Fediverse logo is a Unicode character: ⁂ (U+2042).<br><br><blockquote>Most of all, whether we like it or not, millions of people are being exposed to this icon everyday on Threads as a symbol of the fediverse so I think it’s a pragmatic choice.</blockquote><br>This would not only allow, but <em>actively help</em> Meta assume control over the Fediverse.<br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Asterism" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Asterism</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseSymbol" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseSymbol</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseLogo" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseLogo</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Meta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Meta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=EmbraceExtendExtinguish" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">EmbraceExtendExtinguish</a>
Aral Balkan<p>Ooh, can’t wait to read the gushing praise from Mastodon GmbH for this on the Mastodon blog.</p><p>(Mastodon gGmbH and Meta are besties, you see. <a href="https://www.platformer.news/mastodon-interview-eugen-rochko-meta-bluesky-threads-federation/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">platformer.news/mastodon-inter</span><span class="invisible">view-eugen-rochko-meta-bluesky-threads-federation/</span></a>)</p><p>Is it up yet?</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mastodon</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>meta</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/besties" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>besties</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/allTheBetterToSeeYouWith" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>allTheBetterToSeeYouWith</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a> <a href="https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/112391192672337102" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">social.wildeboer.net/@jwildebo</span><span class="invisible">er/112391192672337102</span></a></p>
:mima_rule: Mima-sama<p>Tbh I'm not enthusiastic about a <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a> <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/hardfork" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#hardfork</a>. Not necessarily because of the <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/techdebt" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#techdebt</a> or even because it's technically inferior to other <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/ActivityPub" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ActivityPub</a> implementations (which are both true), but because I cannot be sure if that new fork is going to adopt the same attitude as Mastodon in choking the rest of the <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediverse</a> with its proprietary extensions and <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EmbraceExtendExtinguish</a> / <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/EEE" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EEE</a><span>.<br><br>I'd rather not have the uncertainty. Either start from scratch like </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/GoToSocial" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GoToSocial</a> is doing or help the other two mainstream AP families which are <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Misskey" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Misskey</a> and <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Pleroma" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Pleroma</a>. That's the only way we can ensure no implementation overwhelmingly dominates the fedi. :seija_coffee:<span><br><br></span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/fediversemeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediversemeta</a><span><br><br>RE: </span><a href="https://hachyderm.io/users/jenniferplusplus/statuses/112355187216928083" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://hachyderm.io/users/jenniferplusplus/statuses/112355187216928083</a></p>
graphito<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@balterwenjamin42" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>balterwenjamin42</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@andricheli" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>andricheli</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@macberg" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>macberg</span></a></span> <br><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>enshittification</span></a> usually comes overnight. One day <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/obsidian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>obsidian</span></a> Wikilinks might not open in <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Loqseq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Loqseq</span></a>, APIs get paywalled, dotfiles get converted to obfuscated format for "your privacy and security" and you're one announcement away from being tied to a pole. But enthusiasts will keep saying that .md is an open format.</p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a></p>
Sal Rahman<p>Interview by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://flipboard.social/@mike" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mike</span></a></span> with <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Gargron" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Gargron</span></a></span>.</p><p>So according to Eugen, he's been using XMPP during a time when people let their desktop PCs run all the time, which is ideal for XMPP's requirement to maintain an active connection from sender to recipient in order to actually deliver messages.</p><p>But when the world transitioned from desktop PCs to mobile phones, XMPP's requirement to stay always on was just not practical, and the world moved on from XMPP and onto other platforms.</p><p>The only way people used XMPP was through Facebook and Google Talk, but the mainstream really didn't have a strong appreciation for XMPP.</p><p>According to Eugen, Email is still going strong because everyone knows how to work with it</p><p>Effectively, embracing, extending, extinguishing is just not a thing for email yet.</p><p><a href="https://flipboard.video/w/cTBu4HusskGTuPBahqm6WY" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">flipboard.video/w/cTBu4HusskGT</span><span class="invisible">uPBahqm6WY</span></a></p><p><a href="https://techhub.social/tags/EEE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EEE</span></a> <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a> <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/Meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Meta</span></a> <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/BlockMeta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BlockMeta</span></a> <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/Threads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Threads</span></a> <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/BlockThreads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BlockThreads</span></a> <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/AntiMetaFediPact" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AntiMetaFediPact</span></a></p>
Aral Balkan<p>He’s making a list,<br>He’s checking it twice,<br>He’s going to decide,<br>Who’s naughty or nice…<br>Zuckerberg is coming to town.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/threads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>threads</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/moderation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>moderation</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/embraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>embraceExtendExtinguish</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/dumbFucks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dumbFucks</span></a></p>
Il Fediverso Italiano fa schifo...<p>Cari amici della decentralizzazione, benvenuti alla fine del mondo!</p><p>Uno dei più gravi limiti di Mastodon (per non parlare di altri software osceni, come il farraginoso Friendica o il giocattoloso Misskey) è che… fa schifo!</p><p>No non è vero, non fa schifo, anzi ha migliorato molto l’ergonomia, ma rispetto ai social commerciali sembra essere ancora in ritardo di diversi anni.</p><p>Al momento solo Bluesky sembra fare peggio, ma in quel caso stiamo parlando in effetti di un feto morto tenuto in vita artificialmente dai giornalisti americani, quindi è un po’ fuori concorso…</p><blockquote><p>* Da qualche giorno però alcune <strong><a href="https://fediversereport.com/a-mammoth-of-an-update/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">testate</a></strong> <strong><a href="https://techcrunch.com/2023/12/07/mammoth-an-x-and-threads-competitor-embraces-news-curation-and-more-in-latest-release/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJW9FCjp-TxKOB6uu8ZMbCSPVbefs-zWAe48iRnTZiVI6tx_O8VDFHpljGx_pK0AkDJJSromzi3cVGqnV4bW124Ud3ouYEZAcSqlca783MmP0z6dEFbKDYbhcicSbPpmBmVP-hcm-cqh3me0hIO9Zc49ewZRBLGcw5zEgDE1R5_W" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">internazionali</a></strong> ma anche quelle <strong><a href="https://www.smartworld.it/news/mammoth-app-mastodon.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">italiane</a></strong> (chiamiamole <strong><a href="https://tecnoapple.it/news/esplorando-il-mondo-dei-mastodon-perche-mammoth-potrebbe-essere-la-soluzione-che-stai-cercando/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">testate</a></strong>), rilanciano praticamente lo stesso comunicato stampa che esalta Mammoth, l’app Mastodon sviluppata dalla <strong><a href="https://www.bizapedia.com/pa/436-1st-and-the-blvd-inc.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The BLDV Inc.</a></strong>, la start-up californiana <strong><a href="https://techcrunch.com/2023/02/28/mozilla-leads-mastodon-app-mammoths-pre-seed-funding/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">finanziata da Mozilla</a></strong> (e <strong><span>QUINDI</span></strong> <strong><a href="https://www.pcmag.com/news/mozilla-signs-lucrative-3-year-google-search-deal-for-firefox" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">da Google</a></strong>, che ormai finanzia il 90% di Mozilla)</p><p>Volevate sapere perché avessi titolato “finanziata da Google”?</p></blockquote><p>L’app è decisamente fatta bene e presenta alcune novità interessanti.</p><blockquote><p>L’app aggiornata introdurrà una serie di funzionalità progettate per attirare gli ex utenti di X, inclusi suggerimenti personalizzati di account da seguire, per aiutarti a ricostruire la tua rete su Mastodon, nonché “liste intelligenti” curate che ti aiutano a trovare le conversazioni interessanti che si svolgono su Mastodon.</p><p>…</p><p>Mammoth si integrerà anche con le redazioni di Flipboard, l’app di social magazine per<a href="https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/19/flipboard-brings-editorial-curation-to-mastodon-with-desks-for-news-and-discovery/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> curare le notizie su argomenti provenienti da tutto il web</a> tramite account come <a href="https://flipboard.social/@NewsDesk" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">News</a>, Tech<a href="https://flipboard.social/@TechDesk" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">,</a> <a href="https://flipboard.social/@CultureDesk" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Culture</a> e <a href="https://flipboard.social/@ScienceDesk" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Science.</a> Ed è partner di <a href="https://mastodon.social/@newsmast" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Newsmast</a>, un altro curatore di notizie e comunità su Mastodon, così come di <a href="https://press.coop/about" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Press.coop</a>, che importa i feed da siti web di notizie popolari in Mastodon. Queste integrazioni consentono a Mammoth 2 di creare una serie di altre “liste intelligenti”, tra cui quelle per News, World News, Business, Tech, Environment e Nature.</p><p>Dall’articolo di Sarah Perez pubblicato <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2023/12/07/mammoth-an-x-and-threads-competitor-embraces-news-curation-and-more-in-latest-release/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJW9FCjp-TxKOB6uu8ZMbCSPVbefs-zWAe48iRnTZiVI6tx_O8VDFHpljGx_pK0AkDJJSromzi3cVGqnV4bW124Ud3ouYEZAcSqlca783MmP0z6dEFbKDYbhcicSbPpmBmVP-hcm-cqh3me0hIO9Zc49ewZRBLGcw5zEgDE1R5_W" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">il 7 dicembre su TechCrunch</a></p></blockquote><p>Insomma, per usare con più semplicità Mastodon, gli utenti rinunceranno all’aspetto più importante offerto da Mastodon: <strong>la decentralizzazione</strong>!</p><p>Seguire le liste di altri, integrare monnezza come <strong>Newsmast</strong> (uno dei progetti più orientati alla centralizzazione anglosferica delle notizie che inizia ad avere qualche cantor anch nel Fediverso italiano), tutto ciò che abbiamo sempre voluto evitare migrando da Twitter a Mastodon!</p><p>Non vi nascondo poi che vedere Mammoth diventare così popolare in qualche modo negli ultimi giorni è davvero sconfortante: basta una campagna di poche migliaia di dollari per infestare tutto il fediverso con i redazionali di una aziendina statunitense.</p><p>Tra l’altro, molte delle funzionalità di Mammoth erano state già implementate da <strong><a href="https://www.melamorsicata.it/2023/01/29/ice-cubes-for-mastodon/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">IceCubes</a></strong>. Per non parlare del fatto che IceCubes è sempre stato gratuito e open source!</p><p>Anche Mammoth è diventato open source. Ma quando lo avvii, la prima cosa che fa (che cosa orribile!) è farti seguire automaticamente il loro account (ho ricevuto messaggi visivi nella schermata delle nuove funzionalità, ma non sono stato in grado di fermare il follow su quella schermata) e hanno un’icona merdosissima simile a quella di Threads.</p><p><strong>La cosa più preoccupante però è loro funzione SmartLists</strong>: invia il tuo handle alla loro istanza ufficiale moth.social, che utilizza un fork Mastodon che serve la funzione “Smart Lists”. Si può ragionevolmente vedere come questo mina la decentralizzazione…</p>Nella foto, Hänsel e Gretel mentre apprezzano l’ergonomia delle app finanziate da BigTech<p>Un’ultima considerazione amara? Non è vero che vogliamo sempre rovinare le cose belle che abbiamo. Ma purtroppo è vero che abbiamo sempre questo desiderio irrefrenabile di aiutare chiunque voglia rovinare ciò che abbiamo. Purché sia ricco, bello e potente…</p><p></p> <p>Se vuoi contattarmi <strong><a href="https://mastodon.social/@fedifaschifo" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">puoi farlo qui</a></strong>!</p><a href="https://mastodon.social/@fedifaschifo" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"></a> <p><a href="https://ilfediversofaschifo.wordpress.com/2023/12/12/mastodon-vi-incuriosisce-mammoth-lapp-finanziata-da-google-potrebbe-essere-lapp-che-usera-tutti-voi-per-distruggere-il-fediverso/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ilfediversofaschifo.wordpress.com/2023/12/12/mastodon-vi-incuriosisce-mammoth-lapp-finanziata-da-google-potrebbe-essere-lapp-che-usera-tutti-voi-per-distruggere-il-fediverso/</a></p><p><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://ilfediversofaschifo.wordpress.com/tag/embrace-extend-extinguish/" target="_blank">#embraceExtendExtinguish</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://ilfediversofaschifo.wordpress.com/tag/enshittification/" target="_blank">#Enshittification</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://ilfediversofaschifo.wordpress.com/tag/google/" target="_blank">#Google</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://ilfediversofaschifo.wordpress.com/tag/icecubes/" target="_blank">#IceCubes</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://ilfediversofaschifo.wordpress.com/tag/mammoth/" target="_blank">#Mammoth</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://ilfediversofaschifo.wordpress.com/tag/mozilla/" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a></p>
Blort™ 🐀Ⓥ🥋☣️<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@AbandonedAmerica" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>AbandonedAmerica</span></a></span> </p><p>Love your work, and this episode sounds fascinating. Sadly, I just can't bring myself to boost/visit a link promoting the company trying to <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a> open podcasting into their own silo'd platform. (aka <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Spotify" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Spotify</span></a> )</p><p>Is there anywhere else it can be heard? Hell, I don't mind giving *you* money (directly) to hear it. I just don't want to (indirectly) give money to *them*.</p><p>Thanks!</p>
IXI<p>"The company has continuously built and extended their products around the free and open RSS protocol to gain user trust, only to then remove RSS support once they've locked users in, and ignore any complaints or requests to restore it. </p><p>Not only is it a blatant disregard for RSS and a huge disappointment to those who use it, it poses one of the biggest threats to the freedom and openness of the internet."</p><p><a href="https://openrss.org/blog/how-google-helped-destroy-adoption-of-rss-feeds" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">openrss.org/blog/how-google-he</span><span class="invisible">lped-destroy-adoption-of-rss-feeds</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/RSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RSS</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/OpenAccess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenAccess</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Google</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a></p>
Jim Patterson 🇨🇦<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@persagen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>persagen</span></a></span> I'm still trying to decide what I'll use when <a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>google</span></a> stops working for me but it won't be <a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/Bing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bing</span></a>.. <a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Microsoft</span></a> is ruthless - crushing <a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/Netscape" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Netscape</span></a> in the 1990's, their <a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a> play against <a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/Java" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Java</span></a>, ongoing attempts to sabotage <a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/OpenOffice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenOffice</span></a> standards to prop up their <a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/Office365" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Office365</span></a> product - they won't be getting my search traffic.<br>Maybe <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://botsin.space/@duckduckgo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>duckduckgo</span></a></span> ?<br><a href="https://medium.com/codex/microsoft-hasnt-changed-at-all-618160578af5" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">medium.com/codex/microsoft-has</span><span class="invisible">nt-changed-at-all-618160578af5</span></a></p>
jfk<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://vmst.io/@marcoshuerta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>marcoshuerta</span></a></span> What's more likely to happen, though, is that Threads will make onboarding / UX for the masses, so everyone will join there instead because they "can still access everything from the Fediverse" and then once the critical mass is on their Platform Meta will turn it into a walled garden to lock everyone in and milk them for their attention. </p><p>Then you lost access not only to the few people you're missing now, but also everyone else.</p><p>Tada! Classic <a href="https://social.tinycyber.space/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a> playbook.</p>
AnneTheWriter<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://merveilles.town/@theruran" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>theruran</span></a></span> </p><p>3/ Here's a link to very interesting (and very long) thread on the subject.</p><p>I've only been in the <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> for several months now, but I think that once folks get here and see the overall positive feed, they will also see the distinct advantages of not being under a corporate <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/oligarchy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>oligarchy</span></a>... of not being bombarded with ads and manipulated by algorithms... and the confidence of not having their data harvested or scraped, they will reject any unethical feed from <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Threads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Threads</span></a> and block the <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/ThreadsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ThreadsApp</span></a> and the <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Metaverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Metaverse</span></a> for themselves. </p><p>I do understand the comfort of small instances, but I also understand the power of big ones. I think that fracturing the Fediverse will only empower Zuckerberg, not hurt him, and will leave <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> and the <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> weaker and worse off for doing so.</p><p>The <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/InformationAge" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InformationAge</span></a> is built on <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/connectivity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>connectivity</span></a>, not isolationism.</p><p><a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Universodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Universodon</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/MastodonSocial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MastodonSocial</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/EEE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EEE</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/MastodonOnline" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MastodonOnline</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36580314" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3</span><span class="invisible">6580314</span></a></p>
AnneTheWriter<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://merveilles.town/@theruran" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>theruran</span></a></span> </p><p>2/ The only verified info I've been able to find says that while <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Meta</span></a> is trying to create a platform that will EVENTUALLY be compatible with <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> (and therefore eventually be able to <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/federate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>federate</span></a> w/the entire <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a>), that feature is only promised. They say the capability is being built into the <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/ThreadsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ThreadsApp</span></a>, but they haven't added it yet.</p><p>Most likely, they want to bring current <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Meta</span></a> accounts to their app 1st, rather than allowing them to explore the entire Fediverse (and possibly choose a diff instance than theirs). I don't see them rushing to connect to us right away.</p><p>Despite what are probably legitimate concerns abt <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a> ( <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/EEE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EEE</span></a>), individual users & admins have the option to block <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Threads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Threads</span></a> posts and even the entire instance. I don't think cutting oneself off from everyone is a good idea. "Divided we fall" means that our divisions only give Meta more power & reputability.</p><p><a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Universodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Universodon</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/MastodonSocial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MastodonSocial</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/MastodonOnline" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MastodonOnline</span></a></p><p><a href="https://techcrunch-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/techcrunch.com/2023/07/05/adam-mosseri-says-metas-threads-app-wont-have-activitypub-support-at-launch/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16886394926943&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Ftechcrunch.com%2F2023%2F07%2F05%2Fadam-mosseri-says-metas-threads-app-wont-have-activitypub-support-at-launch%2F" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">techcrunch-com.cdn.ampproject.</span><span class="invisible">org/v/s/techcrunch.com/2023/07/05/adam-mosseri-says-metas-threads-app-wont-have-activitypub-support-at-launch/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16886394926943&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Ftechcrunch.com%2F2023%2F07%2F05%2Fadam-mosseri-says-metas-threads-app-wont-have-activitypub-support-at-launch%2F</span></a></p>
David August ❌👑<p>Facebook is launching Threads to counter Twitter and Mastodon. And possibly Bluesky too. </p><p>Interesting, unless it may be an attempt to embrace, extend, and extinguish Mastodon and the larger ecosystem that used the ActivityPub open protocol (which lets social sites and services communicate with one another no matter what company runs them). </p><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/technology/meta-launch-twitter-like-app-threads-2023-07-04/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">reuters.com/technology/meta-la</span><span class="invisible">unch-twitter-like-app-threads-2023-07-04/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/threads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>threads</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mastodon</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bluesky</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/SocialMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialMedia</span></a></p>
Hrefna (DHC)<p>Actually effective strategies against <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Meta</span></a> to prevent an <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a> are difficult, but they start from asking "what will actually help here."</p><p>I maintain that preemptive <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/DefederateMeta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DefederateMeta</span></a> is ineffective for this and that defederating from those who won't defederate from meta does more harm than good.</p><p>But what will help is thinking about the roadmap and getting there first. What will help is building a robust and thriving community around <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> and other fediverse protocols.</p>
PJ Coffey<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://calckey.social/@atomicpoet" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>atomicpoet</span></a></span> </p><p>Food for thought! Wasn't expecting Activity Pub to be seen as a menace to Meta but there we are. </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.ie/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ie/tags/Meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Meta</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ie/tags/Facebook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Facebook</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ie/tags/FacebookServer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FacebookServer</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ie/tags/SocialMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialMedia</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ie/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a></p>
Hrefna (DHC)<p>Point 1: </p><p>Meta's ability to scrape is not made worse by your defederating except in the most marginal terms.</p><p>Point 2:</p><p>If I were looking to <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a> I wouldn't be limited to a single server and I wouldn't be deterred by a few servers who are deciding not to talk to me. </p><p>You think Meta is going to shrug their shoulders if the instance of 10 people, foobar.example.baz, decides to not federate with them? </p><p>If _everyone_ defederated with them do you think they would just give up?</p>
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