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@MishaVanMollusq @Unixbigot reminds me of the #Ahr valley flooding which killed a lot of folks because none of the media and civil protection talked about it and #CellBroadcast was shutdown years ago...

  • The latter one being reinstated & mandated by @BNetzA and @bmi as a #warning system shortly after!

My advice: Keep to it and ideally be ready to GTFO up hill / to the side on a minute's notice!

en.m.wikipedia.org2021 European floods - Wikipedia

Successfully tested receiving #cellbroadcast messages on the #PinePhone as well:

# _build/test/mmcbmmonitor
[/org/freedesktop/ModemManager1/CBM/0] new cbm: received
4371: Hallo, this is a CBS test message

So hopefully all devices supporting `+CSCB` on an AT port should now be able to show these messages in @phosh (if the MR makes it into the next #ModemManager release).

The #osmocom stack is such a great help for testing these things.

Thanks to @NGIZero for supporting this.

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@aslmx You're incorrect - at least partially.

  • It was reactivated as until the late 2000s and early 2010s it was actually available in all 4 (back then!) major networks.

  • I remember it fondly because I did use the location feature offered in #Eplus's Network extensively...

  • AFAICT #CellBroadcast is only offered as a tunneled service in #4G & #5G networks, so the same issues of #VoLTE apply as *both 4G & 5G were designed for a premium mobile data service and not as a simple replacement of #2G and/or #3G...

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And in #Germany it took a Natural Disaster with a triple digit bodycount for #CellBroadcast to be reactivated per legal mandate and #2G to remain online...

The fact that Telstra was unable to say how many devices roamed their Network should be seen as criminal incompetence cuz asking something like: "How many foreign devices are #roaming in your network?" is a standard #FAQ I'd expect them to put into their public financial reports - even as a #footnote re: #revenue [i.e. total devices, total revenue, average Calls / SMS / data per roaming device] cuz that's standard #metrics every #Telco & #ISP does create anyway...

de.wikipedia.orgHochwasser in West- und Mitteleuropa 2021 – Wikipedia

A #PSA for anyone living, staying, entering or even travelling to/from #Australia:

Apparently, #Australia decided to mandate it's #GSM systems to be shutdown because some #GalaxyBrainChair wanted to yeet #2G & #3G and demand everything to use #4G & #5G when in fact #VoLTE support is spotty at best and #EmergencyCalling oftentimes is explicitly hardcoded to not use #WIFIcalling or VoLTE as providing #triangulation and #LocationData via #SS7 is a desired feature when someone calls EMS, Fire Dept or the Police for help...

  • So essentially #tourists and anyone who hasn't an explicitly fully VoLTE-functional device they tested and verified to also do #EmergencyCalls via VoLTE are fecked with no reception when they need it the most!

  • This WILL KILL PEOPLE!!!

As much as we want to bitch about #GSM & #GPRS / #UMTS being #outdated and #inefficient, there are reasons to at least keep 2G available - ranging from lower power consumption to higher resilience in emergency situations.

  • #NewZealand for example does shutdown non-#EmergencyCalls during severe #Earthquakes so that people trapped and/or in need of urgent assistance can get through to dispatch operators and everyone else has to get in line and take a number aka. use #SMS or if existing #Internet to say "I'm fine!"...

  • If the Ozzies really need that juicy #UHF #SubGHz #Spectrum it's totally feasible to instead change the #allocations and reconfigure #CellularNetworks to use lesser bandwith for 2G (i.e. only keeping the absolute mininum of channels available for any service) and thus clear up space...

And to add insult to injury, Australia passed a #NorthKorea|n-alike #CellPhone #ImportBan for any device that doesn't do i.e. the bespoke proprietary garbage that i.e. #Telstra, #Vodafone and #Optus do with the #baseband modems of their #branded devices...

Seriously, which #TechIlliterate dickhead decided it's a good idea to do that #3Gshutdown in Australia without even a basic 2G network up and running at all?

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@fell @postmarketOS @GrapheneOS that's because #GSM devices can connect to networks even without a #SIM (they need to in order to establish registration & roaming handshakes)...

  • In fact, until several years ago (when it was specifically deactivated due to rampant abuse and false alerts) one could still dial police (110) & fire dept. / EMS (112) in #Germany without an inserted #SIM.

#CellBroadcast as in todays #NationalAlertDay doesn't distinguish between the devices or SIM status as it literally sends the message to everyone in range.