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@bengillam With regards to the spam floating around about the person who used #pkm the wrong way, *realised they were wrong* way late in the piece and then wrote an article about it and people oohed and aahed at the tale, bafflingly, instead of shaking their heads sadly and walking away from the crackpot…

..nah. Nah, not a chicken and egg problem. A “dumb decision, never listen to me again because this is what I did” problem AFAIC.

"I believe the world needs the skills we had been espousing years back now more than ever. Agency, #PKM, community, critical thinking, imagination .... but we have to contend with bigger players, capitalistic geed, rogue tech bros, corrupt governments, surveillance ... they’re huge. No wonder we feel at a loss and feeling like you do." —Helen
jarche.com/2025/03/adapting-to
#capitalism

jarche.comadapting to chaos – Harold Jarche

Unlike most people, I'm incredibly unsentimental about my notes. So, when @Daojoan wrote that she deleted her second brain I nodded in understanding. I used to do just that with my worklogs.

A second brain isn't a shrine. It's just a utility. A tool. I don't even think my thoughts are especially, well, noteworthy.

If you want to delete a second brain and start anew, you totally can!

#PKM #Obsidian #ObsidianMD #secondbrain

elizabethtai.com/2025/06/29/i-

Elizabeth Tai · I support deleting your second brain
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I support deleting your second brain

If the circumstances are right, of course.

I don’t think I want a map of everything I’ve ever read. I want a mind free to read what it needs. I want memory that forgets gracefully. I want ideas that resurface not because I indexed them, but because they mattered.

What does it feel like to start again?

Like swimming without clothes. Light. Naked. A little vulnerable. But cleaner than I’ve felt in years. – Joan Westenberg, “I deleted my second brain”

I stumbled on this fascinating article by Joan Westenberg, because she did what’s best for her, against “commonly held wisdom”.

Just because it’s “common wisdom” doesn’t mean it’s wisdom for her. Having a second brain is such a personal thing.

I chuckled a little when the mods at the usually placid Obsidian forums on Reddit stickied a note that they’re carefully monitoring the post about her article.

At HackerNews, the discussion was equally heated.

Most people seem to be saying, “Well, she didn’t do the second brain thing right!”. Others say, “Well, I would never!”

I resonate with what Joan said later in the post:

My new system is, simply, no system at all. I write what I think. I delete what I don’t need. I don’t capture everything. I don’t try to.

This made me chuckle as well, because this is what I do.

Unlike some people, I am not romantic about my notes.

Once upon a time, I kept one of those filofax thingies; the one with those inserts you could buy separately?

One day, I was looking through notes from the previous quarter. Then, with a smile, I took it out of the filofax and ripped it in half.

My colleague, who sat next to me, exclaimed in horror: “What are you doing??”

I turned to her, shocked that she was shocked. “Tearing my notes up and throwing it away?”

“Nooo! You should keep it! Don’t throw it away!”

I blinked. That thought has never occurred to me before. (Meanwhile, she couldn’t believe there existed someone who would destroy her worklog the way I did.)

See, I had a visceral pleasure just tearing the damn thing up. To me, the notes about my tasks, thoughts about work, laments, whatever, was in the past. I will never revisit it again. It’s pain and discomfort I no longer want to revisit. Tearing it up meant that I can look forward to the future. Keep it? What in the world for?

Once, I even burnt my notes, grinning as the jottings of the last quarter turned to ash.

Maybe I’m weird, but that’s how I am. I don’t enjoy journaling like some people. I find it a chore. Rereading my old journal entries felt like torture, revisiting an old me I want to leave behind.

I stopped turning my Obsidian vault into a task management app because I don’t understand why I’d visit my old todo lists. (And also, it’s just better at being a note taking app, not a task management app.)

The lists are reminders of reluctant days hunched over the computer making myself do things when I’d rather be outside just staring at the sea.

However

I won’t delete my current second brain.

Maybe I’d delete my old second brain, however, as it was filled with task lists after task lists.

But my current second brain incarnation is just right.

You see, my second brain is not just information storage; it’s an idea vault. Imagine being able to skim through your notes, copy relevant bits and cobble the bits together into an essay. (The video below will show you my process.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sodVw5ZXXBU

That’s how I write using my second brain.

The vault holds my notes and ideas, which will eventually be turned to essays to share with the world.

So, deleting it would be cray cray.

But like Joan’s recent revelation, I don’t capture everything. I don’t even try to.

I follow an Obsidian Youtube influencer, and he says that he has thousands of notes and finds that he takes too much notes on things.

(But fortunately, he’s also like me, he turns most of these notes into essays to share with the world.)

Me? Well, I’ll never have that problem. For one, I like to keep my notes short and sweet. I also tend to think better with mind maps, so a lot of times I tend to save mind maps and use the notes as ‘expanders of the mindmaps’.

Basically, I’m a very intentional note taker. If I take notes, I’ll ask myself: “What will this note be eventually used for?”

Most of the time the answer would be: It’ll be an essay one day.

That, or, “It’ll help me remember something important.”

As a person whose memory isn’t the strongest, Obsidian has been an invaluable tool in creating my second brain which helps me organise my ideas, write faster and push it out to the world.

I used to store everything in my brain and try to write at everything at one go. Now that I have a second brain, I cannot imagine how I handled writing the previous way. Man, no wonder I felt drained after each writing session! The brain isn’t designed to keep so much information internally. Externalising your thoughts into notes in an Obsidian vault is the way to go, and less stressful too!

It is also a place where I keep things I have trouble remembering – like, a link to my tenant’s tenancy contract, or a phone number to my plumber.

Yes, I could use an online service for this, but it comforts me that I have this information locally, in my drive, accessed by a tool that saves things locally, in a format that won’t turn obsolete.

So, no, I won’t delete my Second Brain because I know what I’m using it for, and because I don’t capture everything and like to delete and trim down my vault.

My second brain needs more organising though. It’s a tad messy, but I will take my time.

From @Joanwestenberg

「 When I first started using PKM tools, I believed I was solving a problem of forgetting. Later, I believed I was solving a problem of integration. Eventually, I realized I had created a new problem: deferral. The more my system grew, the more I deferred the work of thought to some future self who would sort, tag, distill, and extract the gold 」

joanwestenberg.com/p/i-deleted

Why I Erased 10,000 Notes, 7 Years of Ideas, and Every Thought I Tried to Save
Westenberg.I Deleted My Second BrainWhy I Erased 10,000 Notes, 7 Years of Ideas, and Every Thought I Tried to Save

Hi I’m Annika! 28F and here’s my #introduction!
🐱 Cat mom.
🍜 Epicurean.
🚿 Showerhead balladeer.
🐀 The defiant lab rat in God’s pristine research facility.

🔍 I want to revive my interest in:
#art#books#typography#poetry#film

📚 My current interests are:
#psychology#selfdevelopment#spirituality#highstrangeness#pkm#heutagogy#systemsdesign#revops#frontendwebdev#devops

📜 I have a background in:
#graphicdesign#instructionaldesign#businessprocessanalysis#ecommerce#computerscience

Excited to be sharing this space with you!

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@cwebber Sure, provided that classic usability isnt dropped (this has affected many communities).

Ive been intrigued by Jean Louis' enthusiasm for LLM dictation is worth noting:
list.orgmode.org/Z9h8IIiJsYyZX

Not only for Jean's specialism on #pkm but additionally his historic emphasizing libresoft philosophy.

(Itching for the chance to scat inside Emacs should I ever get the time).
@hailey

list.orgmode.orgRe: One big file or multiple small ones - Jean Louis

Loaded up Trilium Next Notes, saw there was an update, learned that the fork has become the master. That is to say, the original Trilium author agrees that “Next” is mature enough that it deserves the original namespace. The process will take a few weeks.

If you don't mind Electron, JavaScript, and notes in a SQLite database, maybe check it out. It is ridiculously extensible to the point of Org or TiddlyWiki.

github.com/TriliumNext/Notes/r

GitHubReleases · TriliumNext/NotesBuild your personal knowledge base with TriliumNext Notes - TriliumNext/Notes