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Jens-Christian FischerSo I have been using this <a href="https://swiss.social/tags/NoteTaking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NoteTaking</a>/ <a href="https://swiss.social/tags/Productivity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Productivity</a> tool for the last 2.5 year and it has transformed the way I work and think. People now believe that I’m an organised person.Today, Tana launches to the general public and I invite you to take a look at it!If you sign up through this link, you make me happy <a href="https://try.tana.inc/cank7mpamwpx" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://try.tana.inc/cank7mpamwpx</a>. More about how I use <a href="https://swiss.social/tags/Tana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tana</a> here and on my blog in the coming weeks. Here's a view of my today page that helps me navigate through the day.

Random GeekThe Tana outliner PKM is coming out of early access next week so I thought I'd check their pricing. $8 /month for Plus, $14 / month for pro (with workflows and AI). Free tier includes 20,000 blocks."Blocks" is where you're gonna get in trouble. My Logseq graph with 1,145 pages? It has 21,354 blocks.20,000 is a pretty generous trial, but it's a trial. Expect to bust that ceiling and start paying money if you find Tana useful.I've been broke enough months out of the last couple years that I'll stick with local outliners (Logseq and Org mode mostly). They may be janky, but they're FOSS and will continue to work even if I can't manage a subscription.<a href="https://tana.inc/pricing" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://tana.inc/pricing</a><a href="https://hackers.town/tags/PKM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PKM</a> <a href="https://hackers.town/tags/Tana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tana</a> <a href="https://hackers.town/tags/Logseq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Logseq</a>

Mark McElroy<a href="https://hachyderm.io/@marcusolsson" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@marcusolsson</a> I used <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/DayOne" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DayOne</a> for ages, and I really like the little books I could produce with it. The rich media entries, the time-stamping, the location awareness, the mapping -- all of this is wonderful. I've cobbled together something similar in both <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Tana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tana</a> and <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Obsidian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Obsidian</a>, but find that in those tools, I do tend to revert to pure text entries. (And now, I'm back to journaling by hand in a <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Hobonichi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Hobonichi</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Techo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Techo</a>.) But I do miss Day One!

Mark McElroy<a href="https://swiss.social/@jcfischer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@jcfischer</a> Well, I was experimenting with <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Tana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tana</a> at the time. While it wasn’t for me, it’s an amazing app, isn’t it?

Mark McElroyI want fewer app feature <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/PKM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PKM</a> videos and more “I made this wonderful thing people care about using a PKM-based workflow and here's how I did it, step by step" videos. <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Obsidian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Obsidian</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/ObsidianMD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ObsidianMD</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Logseq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Logseq</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Tana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tana</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Heptabase" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Heptabase</a>

Calixthe“You can follow any Mastodon account via RSS by just adding “.rss” to the end of the account’s public profile URL.” <a href="https://ldstephens.medium.com/how-to-follow-a-mastodon-account-with-rss-39f1c4b477cb" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ldstephens.medium.com/how-to-follow-a-mastodon-account-with-rss-39f1c4b477cb</a> (NOT anything with @chirp.social or @a.gup.pe bc those are groups) <a href="https://fedi.tips/following-mastodon-and-fediverse-accounts-through-rss/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://fedi.tips/following-mastodon-and-fediverse-accounts-through-rss/</a>To follow <a href="https://pkm.social/@omnivore" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@omnivore</a> as an <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/RSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RSS</a> feed, type: <a href="https://pkm.social/@omnivore.rss" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pkm.social/@omnivore.rss</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/pkm" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@pkm@a.gup.pe</a> <a href="https://chirp.social/@pkm" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@pkm@chirp.social</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/logseq" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@logseq@a.gup.pe</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/obsidianmd" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@obsidianmd</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/PKM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PKM</a> <a href="https://mas.to/@obsidian" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@obsidian</a> <a href="https://lemmy.ml/c/logseq" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@logseq@lemmy.ml</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Tana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tana</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/ReflectNotes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ReflectNotes</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/@affine" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@affine</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/@capacities" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@capacities</a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/@cogsciapps" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@cogsciapps</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/CraftDocs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CraftDocs</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@Vivaldi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Vivaldi</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/xTiles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xTiles</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/WebCrate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebCrate</a> <a href="https://mastodon.omnigroup.com/@OmniFocus" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@OmniFocus</a> <a href="https://mastodon.omnigroup.com/@OmniOutliner" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@OmniOutliner</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@pixelfed" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@pixelfed</a> <a href="https://mastodon.devontechnologies.com/@devontechnologies" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@devontechnologies</a>

CalixtheHelpful creators in the <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Obsidian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Obsidian</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/ObsidianMD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ObsidianMD</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/pkm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#pkm</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/LogSeq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LogSeq</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Tana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tana</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/@capacities" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@capacities</a> world : Taken from: <a href="https://pkm.social/@Calixthe/110641714194769001" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pkm.social/@Calixthe/110641714194769001</a><a href="https://pkm.social/@ricraftis" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ricraftis</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/@nicole" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@nicole</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/@TfTHacker" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@TfTHacker</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/@ednico" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ednico</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/@eleanorkonik" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@eleanorkonik</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/@actionsdotwork" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@actionsdotwork</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@kepano" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@kepano</a> <a href="https://mas.to/@obsidian" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@obsidian</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/@ellane" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ellane</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/@EpiphanicSynchronicity" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@EpiphanicSynchronicity</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/@qwxlea" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@qwxlea</a> <a href="https://qwxlea.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://qwxlea.org/</a><a href="https://pkm.social/@spinningthoughts" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@spinningthoughts</a> <a href="https://woertergarten.medium.com/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://woertergarten.medium.com/</a>They have a combo of blogs, YouTube channels, and/or presence in <a href="https://pkm.social" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pkm.social</a> or the official Obsidian Community or Discord: <a href="https://obsidian.md/community" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://obsidian.md/community</a>

Mark McElroy<a href="https://pkm.social/@ednico" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ednico</a> I think <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Notion" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Notion</a> is deeply entrenched in the corporate space, and I know some diehard users of it, many of whom seem to love the “build anything” aspect of the tool. (Some of these are saying they now love <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Tana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tana</a> more.)I opened the <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Notion" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Notion</a> door once, long ago, but it just never clicked for me. 🤷‍♂️

Mark McElroyAmazing work by the <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/tana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#tana</a> folks on their simple, easy capture app. The design of it is as powerful as the app itself!I know a lot of people who have cobbled together their own <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/PKM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PKM</a> capture solutions with apps like Drafts. It would be cool if <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Obsidian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Obsidian</a> and others offered elegant quick capture apps like this one. (Unlike tana, <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Obsidian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Obsidian</a> has a "full" iOS app already ... but its options for quick capture are more limited than I'd like.)

Mark McElroy<a href="https://techhub.social/@dhrystone" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@dhrystone</a> I happened to click into Twitter by mistake today, where there were maybe 15,456 tweets going on about <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Tana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tana</a> incorporating AI. 🙄One observation: given that my Twitter feed has pretty much fallen silent these days (what with so many of my folks moving to other platforms), there must be a *lot* of Tana users who still prefer Twitter.

Mark McElroy<a href="https://mstdn.ca/@bowreality" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bowreality</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Tana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tana</a> is a very powerful and flexible database. You can take notes in it, and you can define "supertags" (fields with values) for those notes that give them a kind of structure not possible in some other tools. (So when you tag something "Book," you automagically get fields added, like "Author" and "Publisher.") There's more: built-in AI queries, the ability to build virtually anything. It's all very elegant (and very complex). But: online only, notes in their cloud.

Mark McElroyJust went back to have a look at <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Tana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tana</a> after months away. Still not the place for me, but -- wow -- so much magic. The options and potentials make my head spin! It's great work.I overcome the <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/FOMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FOMO</a> by reminding myself of my needs (which are really very simple, in terms of the notes I make and use) and my values (I want my notes stored locally, in a portable format, in a system I own).

Mark McElroyHaruki Murakami, in _Novelist as a Vocation_: "If you take a hundred novelists you’ll find a hundred different ways of writing novels." And this is true of <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/NoteMaking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NoteMaking</a> and <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/PKM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PKM</a>, as well. An approach that works very well for someone else might not work for you. Don't be afraid to simply and consistently work toward your OWN way of structuring your notes. <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Obsidian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Obsidian</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Logseq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Logseq</a> <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Tana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tana</a>

Mark McElroy<a href="https://pkm.social/@TfTHacker" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@TfTHacker</a> This is a good overview of Obsidian's <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/outlining" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#outlining</a> capabilities, and it's well-illustrated with video examples. The one outlining superpower I'm missing in Obsidian is inheritance: the ability to tag a parent node once, and have that tag also applied to all its children. This can be done manually in <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Obsidian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Obsidian</a>, but having it done automatically saves a lot of time in apps like <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Logseq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Logseq</a> and <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Tana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tana</a>.Not sure if a plug-in can achieve this, but I'm hopeful!

Mark McElroyMy note-making journey, as told in apps, from 2000 forward:- Handwritten Notes - <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/DevonThink" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DevonThink</a> - <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Evernote" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Evernote</a> - <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/NotationalVelocity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NotationalVelocity</a> - <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Yojimbo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Yojimbo</a> - <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/KeepIt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KeepIt</a> - <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/OneNote" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OneNote</a> - <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/SimpleNote" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SimpleNote</a> - <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Bear" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bear</a> - <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/GoodNotes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GoodNotes</a> - <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/AppleNotes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AppleNotes</a> - <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/RoamResearch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RoamResearch</a> - <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Obsidian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Obsidian</a> - <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Tana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tana</a> - <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Obsidian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Obsidian</a> (again) - <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Logseq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Logseq</a> - <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Obsidian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Obsidian</a> and <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Logseq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Logseq</a>And those are just the tools I adopted for at least a month at a time.

Mark McElroy<a href="https://mas.to/@grantgochnauer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@grantgochnauer</a> I love what I've seen of <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Tana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tana</a>, but ultimately decided to maintain PKM in <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Logseq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Logseq</a> (through March 2023, as an experiment -- my solution for 2022 was Obsidian, which I like very much). I write long-form in <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/ulysses" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ulysses</a> My strong preferences for solutions that are local-first, based on human-readable text files, and created without VC investment ultimately steered me away from <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/Tana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tana</a>.

Justin Maxwelli have a <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/tana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#tana</a> invitation and would be willing to share it with any of my frequent banter shitposter ex-twitter etc. "friends" here but no randos looking for invites (sorry), so if that applies to you, lmk.

Mark McElroyIf you love to <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/journal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#journal</a> and like <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/PKM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PKM</a>, <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/obsidian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#obsidian</a>, <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/logseq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#logseq</a>, <a href="https://pkm.social/tags/tana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#tana</a>, and such — you’re gonna love <a href="https://pkm.social/@tracyplaces" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tracyplaces</a> ! Give her a follow and make her welcome!

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