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Cassian [main]

Just did a quick and dirty spreadsheet to find out what percentage of instances and users are on Mastodon 4.4 (pre-quote-posts) and 4.5 (quote-posts), and it's like this:

4.4 (pre-quote-posts): 29.7% of instances, 9.1% of users.
4.5 (quote-posts, but not yet): 1.2% of instances, 11.0% of users.

Source data: instances.social/list/old

My messy spreadsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d

#mastodon#meta#MastoMeta
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Jupiter Rowland
@Montag Wichtig übrigens: "Quote" und "Quote-Post" sind zwei völlig verschiedene Dinge. Die darf man nicht miteinander verwechseln.



Quotes sind Zitate. Also das hier:

das heißt, auf Mastodon sieht man einen Quote nur wenn der zitierte expliziet zustimmt, während der Quote auf allen anderen Fediverse Plattformen ganz normal angezeigt wird?


Um die geht es hier aber nicht. Mastodon-Nutzer kennen nämlich keine Quotes, keine Zitate.

Mastodon-Nutzer kennen ja im allgemeinen nur Twitter und Mastodon. Twitter hat keine Zitate. Mastodon auch nicht; es kann sie zwar anzeigen und seit Mastodon 4.0 (Oktober 2022) auch sauber, aber es kann sie nicht erzeugen. Und deswegen kennen Mastodon-Nutzer das gar nicht.



Quote-Posts, um die es hier geht, sind dagegen komplette Posts, die in andere Posts reingebaut sind. Das ist das, was auf Friendica "Quoted Share" heißt. Also das hier:

Montag schrieb den folgenden Beitrag Sat, 19 Jul 2025 23:08:45 +0200 @Matthias das heißt, auf Mastodon sieht man einen Quote nur wenn der zitierte expliziet zustimmt, während der Quote auf allen anderen Fediverse Plattformen ganz normal angezeigt wird? Das ist grober Unfug und ergibt überhaupt keinen Sinn, was haben sich die Mastodon Entwickler dabei gedacht?

Auf Twitter heißt das "Quote-Tweet". Oder im Deutschen auch "Drüko" ("Drüber-Kommentar"; erst der Kommentar zum Tweet, dann der eingebettete Tweet) oder "Druko" ("Drunter-Kommentar"; erst der eingebettete Tweet, dann der Kommentar zum Tweet). Auf Mastodon wird auch "Quote-Toot" oder "Quote-Tröt" gesagt.

Auf Friendica und Nachfolgern war das früher die einzige Möglichkeit überhaupt, einen Post weiterzuleiten. So etwas wie Retweets (Mastodon: "Boosts", Friendica: "Shares", Hubzilla/(streams)/Forte: "Repeats") wurde erst später nach und nach eingeführt.

Auf Twitter ist dagegen in der Praxis das einzige Einsatzgebiet dieses Feature, über anderer Leute Tweets herzuziehen und diese anderen Leute auf dem Wege niederzumachen. Für was anderes werden Quote-Tweets da buchstäblich nicht benutzt.

Und so ist es für Mastodon-Nutzer komplett unvorstellbar, daß irgendjemand irgendwo dieses Feature für was anderes nutzen könnte.

Viele sind ja von Twitter nach Mastodon auch deswegen abgehauen, weil Mastodon eben keine Quote-Posts hat. Weil sie glaubten, da vor Quote-Posts sicher zu sein.

Als Mastodon dann ankündigte, Quote-Posts einzuführen, haben ganz besonders Angehörige unterdrückter Minderheiten (Farbige, Schwule, Lesben, Transpersonen usw.) lautstark dagegen protestiert.

Noch einmal: Niemand von denen wußte und weiß bis heute, daß es im Fediverse schon lange Quote-Posts gab und jeder Mastodon-Tröt jederzeit ungehindert außerhalb Mastodon und dann nach Mastodon rein quote-post-bar ist.

Genau deshalb kommt Mastodon mit diesem "Feigenblatt" davon: Dieser Schalter wiegt die Mastodon in Sicherheit. In einer Sicherheit, die sie nie hatten, was aber annähernd niemand auf Mastodon weiß.

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friendica.xyzMatthiasEigentlich war allen klar, dass die Quote Post Umsetzung auf Mastodon nur ein Blendwerk ist. Sie wiegelt euch in einer Sicherheit, die es nicht gibt. Der Gru...
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Em :official_verified:

Tiny Mastodon Tip About Quote Posts :mastodon: 📢

If your instance is already running the newly released version Mastodon 4.4,

Know that in preparation for the full implementation, the team has included a consent setting for the upcoming Quote Post feature.

While quoting a post will not
be available as a native feature until Mastodon 4.5 later this year, it's wonderful that you can adjust if you want in or not before it even arrives! :awesome:

HOW TO❓

1. From the web interface, go to "Preferences" on the right-side menu. Then click on "Other" under the "Preferences" section :blocky_white_cursor:

2. If your instance was newly updated, you should now see an option in "Posting Defaults" for "Who can quote" (see image below) 👇

Note: If the option isn't there, your instance has not updated to the version including it yet. Be patient, it will likely be added in the weeks to come.

3. From the "Who can quote" drop-menu, you can choose either "Everyone", "Followers and mentioned users", or "Only mentioned users" :ablobcatnod:

4. Once the next version is released, you will be ready for Quote Posts! No matter your choices 💪

5. Enjoy the freedom of choosing the features you wish to participate in (or not)! 😌✨

For more information on Quote Posts, you can read Mastodon's announcement blog about it here: blog.joinmastodon.org/2025/02/

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Roni Laukkarinen

It's coming 👀

"Support for verifying remote quotes according to FEP-044f and displaying them in the Web UI has been implemented.

Quoting other people is not implemented yet, and it is currently not possible to mark your own posts as allowing quotes. However, a new “Who can quote” setting has been added to the “Posting defaults” section of the user settings. This setting allows you to set a default that will be used for new posts made on Mastodon 4.5 and newer, when quote posts will be fully implemented."

#QuotePosts#QuotePost#Mastodon
SherBeareth

Cool. 😎

Mastodon is planning to release a new update, version 4.4, with the first beta now available. The biggest feature of the patch is that it will display quoted posts. The highly requested feature will only be fully available in version 4.5, which will include the ability for users to create quoted posts. Mastodon CTO Renaud Chaput says that he expects version 4.4 to be released at the end of June, with version 4.5 scheduled a few months later.

#QuotePosts#Mastodon#NewFeatures
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ikuturso

@HistoPol still a little short on examples but here is one of someone quote posting their own older post and another where the quoted person has probably not enabled the BlueSky bridge.

It might also be that only these self-quotes work for now because I've not really been able to find different examples and some #quoteposts that show up fine from Threads on Sharkey only show the "pending approval" on mastodon.social.

edit: it's the latter see mastodon.social/@renchap@oisau from @renchap
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FinchHaven sfba

@jerome

Yeah there have been specific apps that have implemented #QuotePosts for some time now -- and used that as a "marketing" feature

But of course there's a difference between the user-space "app" level and the overall-global instance distribution level

This will become Yet Another(tm) #Mastodon Advanced Feature(tm) that newcomers and the experienced alike will have to find in some Preferences --> Whatever location and turn on or off as they see fit

Who says Mastodon is hard to use? /snark

And what are "Carousel Slides" and when do we get to see them?

Are these for Pinned Posts, or nah?

cc @andypiper @individual8 @MastodonEngineering

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Jupiter Rowland
@Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸 The Mastodon devs are talking as if either the Fediverse is only Mastodon, or the Fediverse as a whole doesn't have quote-posts.

Neither of this is true. The Fediverse has had quote-posts since July 2nd, 2010 when Mistpark (now known as Friendica) was launched. Mastodon toots have been quote-post-able since Mastodon itself was launched, for when Mastodon was launched, it immediately federated with at least two Fediverse server applications that have quote-posts, namely Friendica and Hubzilla, a fork of a fork of Friendica by Friendica's own creator.

Nowadays, at least Pleroma, Akkoma, all other Pleroma forks, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp-JS, Iceshrimp.NET, CherryPick, Sharkey, all other Misskey forks, Mitra, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte can quote-post Mastodon toots with no problem.

And Mastodon won't be able to stop them. No, seriously, it won't. Not with a non-standard, proprietary, home-brew opt-in or opt-out switch that doesn't tie into anything that the other Fediverse server apps have. And whatever switch Mastodon is working on will not tie into anything that already exists.

Let me put it this way: Hubzilla has the second-most advanced and fine-grained permissions system in the Fediverse. It goes well beyond most people's imagination. It works on three levels: for the whole channel (that's similar to a Mastodon account), for individual contacts (that's "followers" in Mastodon lingo, but Hubzilla doesn't distinguish between followers and followed), for individual content. (streams) and Forte are the only ones with an even more advanced and fine-grained permissions system.

But even they don't have a quote-post permission setting. And they have permission settings for just about everything. You want reply control in the Fediverse? Hubzilla has reply control, and (streams) and Forte have reply control on steroids. But what they don't have is a quote-posting permission because that's next to impossible to control across the Fediverse even with the most advanced permissions system.

As @Mike Macgirvin ?️ (professional software developer for almost half a century, designer of two Fediverse protocols, creator of Friendica and Hubzilla, inventor of nomadic identity, creator and maintainer of (streams) and Forte) says: The only way to make your posts un-quote-post-able is by not posting in public and not allowing everyone in the Fediverse full access to your posts. Set your "Who can quote" however you want, I'll always be able to quote-post all your public posts with no problem and with no resistance.

So what chance does Mastodon have then? Mastodon which doesn't even know what permissions are? Developed by Eugen Rochko who actually has a history of head-butting with Mike Macgirvin, and who would never take any step towards anything that Mike has ever developed?

I'm commenting from Hubzilla right now, and I'm also on (streams). And I can tell you: If you make any of your posts "un-quote-post-able", this still won't make my Share buttons on Hubzilla and (streams) disappear.

CC: @Stefan Bohacek @FinchHaven sfba

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