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@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:OMF!G, I just saw a "native" quote-post on mastodon.social !!!...I am seeing them from Bluesky accounts bridged to the Fediverse.I just did a test myself.RE: <a href="https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:scewmn2pl3oz36mxme2b6czz/post/3lquzwwupf22d" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:scewmn2pl3oz36mxme2b6czz/post/3lquzwwupf22d</a><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QuotePost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuotePost</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Fediverse</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediUX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FediUX</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediverseUX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FediverseUX</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeSo</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FeSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FeSo</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LoSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LoSo</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mstdn.chrisalemany.ca/@chris" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸</a> The Mastodon devs are talking as if either the Fediverse is only Mastodon, or the Fediverse as a whole doesn't have quote-posts. Neither of this is true. The Fediverse has had quote-posts since July 2nd, 2010 when Mistpark (now known as <a href="https://friendi.ca" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Friendica</a>) was launched. Mastodon toots have been quote-post-able since Mastodon itself was launched, for when Mastodon was launched, it immediately federated with at least two Fediverse server applications that have quote-posts, namely Friendica and <a href="https://hubzilla.org" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a>, a fork of a fork of Friendica by Friendica's own creator. Nowadays, at least Pleroma, Akkoma, all other Pleroma forks, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp-JS, Iceshrimp.NET, CherryPick, Sharkey, all other Misskey forks, Mitra, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte can quote-post Mastodon toots with no problem. And Mastodon won't be able to stop them. No, seriously, it won't. Not with a non-standard, proprietary, home-brew opt-in or opt-out switch that doesn't tie into anything that the other Fediverse server apps have. And whatever switch Mastodon is working on will not tie into anything that already exists. Let me put it this way: Hubzilla has the second-most advanced and fine-grained permissions system in the Fediverse. It goes well beyond most people's imagination. It works on three levels: <a href="https://help.hubzilla.hu/en/usermanual/permissions_channel_roles.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">for the whole channel</a> (that's similar to a Mastodon account), <a href="https://help.hubzilla.hu/en/usermanual/permissions_contact_roles.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">for individual contacts</a> (that's "followers" in Mastodon lingo, but Hubzilla doesn't distinguish between followers and followed), <a href="https://help.hubzilla.hu/en/usermanual/permissions_content.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">for individual content</a>. (streams) and Forte are the only ones with an even more advanced and fine-grained permissions system. But even they don't have a quote-post permission setting. And they have permission settings for just about everything. You want reply control in the Fediverse? Hubzilla has reply control, and (streams) and Forte have reply control on steroids. But what they don't have is a quote-posting permission because that's next to impossible to control across the Fediverse even with the most advanced permissions system. As @<a class="" href="https://fediversity.site/channel/mikedev" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mike Macgirvin ?️</a> (professional software developer for almost half a century, designer of two Fediverse protocols, creator of Friendica and Hubzilla, inventor of nomadic identity, creator and maintainer of (streams) and Forte) says: The only way to make your posts un-quote-post-able is by not posting in public and not allowing everyone in the Fediverse full access to your posts. Set your "Who can quote" however you want, I'll always be able to quote-post all your public posts with no problem and with no resistance. So what chance does Mastodon have then? Mastodon which doesn't even know what permissions are? Developed by Eugen Rochko who actually has a history of head-butting with Mike Macgirvin, and who would never take any step towards anything that Mike has ever developed? I'm commenting from Hubzilla right now, and I'm also on (streams). And I can tell you: If you make any of your posts "un-quote-post-able", this still won't make my Share buttons on Hubzilla and (streams) disappear. CC: @<a href="https://stefanbohacek.online/@stefan" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Stefan Bohacek</a> @<a href="https://sfba.social/@FinchHaven" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FinchHaven sfba</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Pleroma" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Pleroma</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Akkoma" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Akkoma</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Misskey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Misskey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forkey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Forkey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forkeys" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Forkeys</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Calckey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Calckey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Firefish" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Firefish</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Iceshrimp" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Iceshrimp</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Iceshrimp.NET" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Iceshrimp.NET</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CherryPick" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CherryPick</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Sharkey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Sharkey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mitra" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mitra</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Friendica</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Forte</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuotePost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePosts" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuotePosts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTweet" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuoteTweet</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTweets" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuoteTweets</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteToot" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuoteToot</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteToots" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuoteToots</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteBoost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuoteBoost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteBoosts" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuoteBoosts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePostDebate" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuotePostDebate</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTootDebate" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuoteTootDebate</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://hollo.social/@botkit" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">BotKit by Fedify :botkit:</a> Be aware that quotes and quote-posts are two different things, and both exist in the Fediverse. At least Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte can generate both. This is a quote, like in every bulletin-board forum out there: <blockquote>Coming soon in #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=BotKit" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">BotKit</a> 0.2.0: Native #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=quote" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">quote</a> post support!</blockquote> Or this, but it has to be coded manually into the comment's source code: BotKit by Fedify :botkit: wrote:<blockquote>Coming soon in #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=BotKit" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">BotKit</a> 0.2.0: Native #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=quote" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">quote</a> post support!</blockquote> This is a quote-post a.k.a. shared post a.k.a. quoted share: <a href="https://hollo.social/@botkit" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://hollo.social/@botkit" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">BotKit by Fedify :botkit:</a> wrote the following <a href="https://hollo.social/@botkit/01965678-eb56-7003-9c91-07e4418bf63a" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">post</a> Mon, 21 Apr 2025 05:51:28 +0200 Coming soon in <a href="https://hollo.social/tags/BotKit" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BotKit</a> 0.2.0: Native <a href="https://hollo.social/tags/quote" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#quote</a> post support! We're excited to share a preview of the upcoming quoting features in BotKit 0.2.0. This update will make it easier for your bots to engage with quoted content across the fediverse. The quoting feature set includes:<ul><li>Detecting when someone quotes your bot's posts with the new <a href="https://botkit.fedify.dev/concepts/events#quote" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><code>Bot.onQuote</code></a> event handler</li><li>Accessing quoted content through the <a href="https://botkit.fedify.dev/concepts/message#quotes" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><code>Message.quoteTarget</code></a> property</li><li>Creating quote posts using the <a href="https://botkit.fedify.dev/concepts/message#quoting" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><code>quoteTarget</code></a> option in <a href="https://botkit.fedify.dev/concepts/message#publishing-a-message" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><code>Session.publish()</code></a> and <a href="https://botkit.fedify.dev/concepts/message#replying-to-a-message" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><code>Message.reply()</code></a> methods</li></ul>Here's a quick example of how you can use the quote detection: <code>bot.onQuote = async (session, quote) => {   // The quote parameter is a Message object representing the post that quoted your bot   await quote.reply(text`Thanks for quoting my post, ${quote.actor}!`);      // You can access the original quoted message   const originalPost = quote.quoteTarget;   console.log(`Original message: ${originalPost?.text}`); };</code> And creating quote posts is just as simple: <code>// Quote in a new post await session.publish(   text`I'm quoting this interesting message!`,   { quoteTarget: someMessage } ); // Or quote in a reply await message.reply(   text`Interesting point! I'm quoting another relevant post here.`,   { quoteTarget: anotherMessage } );</code> Remember that quoting behavior may vary across different <a href="https://hollo.social/tags/ActivityPub" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ActivityPub</a> implementations—some platforms like Misskey display quotes prominently, while others like Mastodon might implement them differently. Want to try these features right now? You can install the development version from <a href="https://jsr.io/@fedify/botkit@0.2.0-dev.90+d6ab4bdc" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">JSR</a>: <code>deno add jsr:@fedify/botkit@0.2.0-dev.90+d6ab4bdc</code> We're looking forward to seeing how you use these quoting capabilities in your bots! <a href="https://hollo.social/tags/fedidev" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fedidev</a> Also, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte handle quote-posts a lot differently from Misskey and the Forkeys. Misskey and the Forkeys do quote-posts like so: <code>RE: https://hollo.social/@botkit/01965678-eb56-7003-9c91-07e4418bf63a</code> At least on Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte, a quote-post starts out like this: <code>[share⁠=74153074][/share]</code> Upon sending the post, this piece of BBcode is changed into a full, dumb copy of the original post, led in by a line that says who posted this first, complete with a link to the profile, and that also links to the original. The original poster is being notified about this (unless they chose not to), but if the original post is edited, the edit is not forwarded to quote-posted copies. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Misskey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Misskey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forkey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Forkey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forkeys" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Forkeys</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Friendica</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Forte</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Quotes" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Quotes</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuotePost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePosts" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuotePosts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTweet" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuoteTweet</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTweets" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuoteTweets</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteToot" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuoteToot</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteToots" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuoteToots</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteBoost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuoteBoost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteBoosts" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuoteBoosts</a>

Jupiter RowlandThe Fediverse has quote-posts right now, it can quote-post Mastodon toots with no problems, and no Mastodon switch will change that; CW: long (over 4,500 characters), Fediverse meta, Fediverse beyond Mastodon meta, quote-post meta

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mastodon.social/users/shoq" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Shoq</a> Self-quote from that long post you should have been notified about: <blockquote>It's because quoted posts = quote-tweets as used on Twitter to harass BIPoC and members of the 2SLGBTQIA+ community. People who, for this very same reason, harassment, have escaped from Twitter to Mastodon which doesn't have quote-tweets and therefore counts as a safe haven. They don't want quote-tweets on Mastodon out of fear of being harassed on Mastodon just the same as they were harassed on Twitter.</blockquote> So it's gays and lesbians and trans people and Black people etc. who've been harassed to the bone by right-wing nutters on Twitter, using quote-tweets. And they don't want the same shit to happen to them on Mastodon again. And they think they're only safe if Mastodon doesn't have quote-tweets. Sorry, still over 500 characters. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Twitter" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Twitter</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Harassment" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Harassment</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWHarassment" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWHarassment</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuotePost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePosts" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuotePosts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteBoost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuoteBoost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteBoosts" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuoteBoosts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTweet" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuoteTweet</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTweets" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuoteTweets</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotedShares" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuotedShares</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePostDebate" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">QuotePostDebate</a>

Graham DownsAll you <a href="https://c.im/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a> fans desperate for a <a href="https://c.im/tags/QuoteBoost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteBoost</a> / <a href="https://c.im/tags/QuotePost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuotePost</a> feature on <a href="https://c.im/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a>, I figured out how you can achieve it so you can share something AND share your comments about it, without breaking the original conversation thread (which is the biggest reason why I *don't* want Quote Tweets to make their way here):1. Reply to the post with your comments. Your reply goes into the thread, but won't be seen by any of your followers, unless they follow the account you're replying to.2. Boost the post you're replying to.3. Boost your reply.You can swop 2 and 3 around if you like, or you can omit 2, provided you write your reply in such a way that someone who hasn't seen the post you're replying to would get an idea of its content.I think that's a really cool compromise, don't you?<a href="https://c.im/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fediverse</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/fediTips" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fediTips</a>

OyinboAna Navarro-Cárdenas found a bit of George <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Santos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Santos</a> glitter from Christmas :I’m cackling.↘ <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a> of :Ana Navarro-Cárdenas @ <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/ananavarro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ananavarro</a> · 29 Dec 2022 Too bad <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/GeorgeSantos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GeorgeSantos</a> is not a drag-queen. Might be the only way Republicans would express outrage and demand his ouster.⬆ Bruna Benevides 🏳️‍⚧️ @ <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/BrunaBenevidex" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BrunaBenevidex</a> · 1:01 pm · 30 Dec 2022 Replying to @ <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/ananavarro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ananavarro</a>ask him about "<a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Kitara" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Kitara</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Ravache" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Ravache</a>"<a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/KitaraRavache" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KitaraRavache</a>

The Nexus of PrivacySocial threat modeling and quote boosts on MastodonHow to improve tools for preventing, and defending against, harassment and abuse?<a href="https://privacy.thenexus.today/social-threat-modeling-and-quote-boosts/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://privacy.thenexus.today/social-threat-modeling-and-quote-boosts/</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QuoteBoost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteBoost</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MissedQuoteBoost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MissedQuoteBoost</a>

Rajeev KumarIf I want to quote a toot/post with my opinion, I would write my opinion and mention the URL of the toot/post at the end of my toot/post.I don't mind if the content of the quoted toot/post is not fully visible with my opinion where it's read, as long as it's not a dead link and readers can open and reply or quote it in their post with their opinion or quote my opinion for the next set of their toots/posts.This functionality already works, and that's what quoting a toot or tweet means to me. So I need help understanding all these ongoing, never-ending discussions around copying twitter for their version of the <a href="https://bihar.social/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a>. <a href="https://bihar.social/tags/QT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QT</a> <a href="https://bihar.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a> <a href="https://bihar.social/tags/QuoteTweets" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteTweets</a> <a href="https://bihar.social/tags/Quote" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Quote</a> <a href="https://bihar.social/tags/QuotePost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuotePost</a> <a href="https://bihar.social/tags/QuoteBoost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteBoost</a>

MollyNYC<a href="https://mastodon.social/@shoq" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@shoq</a> I’m not sophisticated about any technical aspects of the Fediverse, so maybe this is a naive question. But……would it be feasible to set up <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/QuotedPostsOnMastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuotedPostsOnMastodon</a> so that the poster can control whether his or her post can be quoted or not? If so, posters who fear harassment could opt out, and communities that thrive on QTs could opt in.<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a>

Jeremy (יעקב) 🇺🇦<a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/@AkivaMCohen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@AkivaMCohen</a> Since <a href="https://babka.social/tags/QT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QT</a> / <a href="https://babka.social/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a> debate is going again in earnest, I think Mastadon should really lean into the <a href="https://babka.social/tags/Forum" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Forum</a> feel and integrate QT segments. So you can QT, but it is broken up into multiple pieces and you can respond to each individually. That helps the whole platform lean into the long form posting style, as well as discussion rather than pile-ons.

sezduckWhy is <a href="https://twit.social/tags/QuoteToot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteToot</a> getting all of the attention? I’d rather see these features first:- <a href="https://twit.social/tags/EatToot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EatToot</a> - <a href="https://twit.social/tags/WootToot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WootToot</a> - <a href="https://twit.social/tags/ScootToot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ScootToot</a> - <a href="https://twit.social/tags/BootThatMootToot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BootThatMootToot</a><a href="https://twit.social/tags/QT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QT</a> <a href="https://twit.social/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a>

sezduckMastodon QTs for some, miniature American flags for others!<a href="https://twit.social/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a> <a href="https://twit.social/tags/QuoteToot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteToot</a> <a href="https://twit.social/tags/QT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QT</a> <a href="https://twit.social/tags/TheSimpsons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TheSimpsons</a>

Carwil Bjork-JamesSo I did some quick tabulation of <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a> uses on today's Twitter to assist the <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/QuoteBoost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteBoost</a> debate on Mastodon.In curated lists of experts and news sources, QT's are frequent and generally positive.In a trending topic on climate change, QT's were infrequent even though the conversation was generally hostile.In a trending topic on Ben Shapiro, a prominent public figure on Twitter, dunking predominated.posted to: <a href="https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/20673#issuecomment-1365351296" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/20673#issuecomment-1365351296</a><a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/TwitterMigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TwitterMigration</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/QT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QT</a>

HammancheezMY DRUNK QUESTION on <a href="https://masthead.social/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a> - there's a lot of people yelling about it and I'm new and don't really care either way but one of the concerns seems to be it enables brigading. I def. see that on Twitter. I'm not sure how much that's a risk on the more distributed Fediverse esp. when reach is limited by boosting/followers and there's no oligarchorithm fucking with you. so it seems like that risk is overstated. Am I full of shit?

myrmepropagandist<a href="https://federated.press/@Mab" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Mab</a> QT stands for "Quote Tweet" which is what it is called on twitter when you re-share a post with a comment appended to the top.Here it would be called "Quote Boost" since we don't have tweets on here. We have "posts," and they get "boosted" :)<a href="https://sauropods.win/tags/qt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#qt</a> <a href="https://sauropods.win/tags/quoteboost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#quoteboost</a> <a href="https://sauropods.win/tags/quotetweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#quotetweet</a>

Art 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈✊🏿🇺🇦🇵🇸If you want <a href="https://lounge.town/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a>, <a href="https://lounge.town/tags/QuoteToot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteToot</a>, <a href="https://lounge.town/tags/qt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#qt</a> or whatever you call it to (better?) do your job, I feel you. But if a feature you want has potential and had proven to cause harm and inflict pain on marginalized folks, you don’t get to demand this feature. You ought to first figure out how to make this feature not cause harm, propose a solution, and then advocate for it. You will have to address criticism and change your proposal based on feedback.

Assuma’s GhostIf <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mastodon</a> instances want to enable the toot version of a <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/quotetweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#quotetweet</a> it should be set at an account level. If you’re a scientist or historian or someone who finds it useful then by all means open the gates, but I’ve never been personally <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/qt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#qt</a> ‘d by anyone that was for any reason other than platooning. Personally I’d put a rusty old padlock on that feature, but I can see why others are into it.

Rod HiltonFrankly <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a> is a redundant feature even on <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Twitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Twitter</a> itself, it should be removed.It was one thing when you could QT secretly, but a few years ago Twitter added a QT count under each tweet, and you could track when your tweets got QTed.That makes them effectively replies, just rendered differently and counted differently.All replies should be rendered with the original inline if not viewing the thread.A QT is then just a reply you self-boost.

Hobson Lane<a href="https://techfieldday.net/@sfoskett" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@sfoskett</a> this is normal when two cultures collide . Especially when one is the guest of another because their own culture self destructed. At least there aren't hot takes being quote tweeted and fanning the flames<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/QTorNotToQT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QTorNotToQT</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/QuoteToot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteToot</a>

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