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Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://climatejustice.social/@PaulaToThePeople" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PaulaToThePeople</a> <blockquote>Mastodon decided against quote posts so far, so Hubzilla and (streams) should not allow quoting Mastodon posts.</blockquote> I mean, I could propose to Mike, Mario and Harald to automatically remove the Share button under any and all posts and comments from Mastodon, just to see their reactions. But as a matter of fact, Pleroma and Akkoma can quote-post Mastodon toots just the same. The same goes for Misskey and its over 50 forks, including but not limited to JavaScript-based Iceshrimp which won't get any new features, Iceshrimp.NET which isn't officially released yet, Sharkey, CherryPick and Catodon. And Friendica can quote-post Mastodon toots, too. Several dozen Fediverse server projects can quote-post Mastodon toots. They all would have to change. Or they all would have had to change the moment that it was decided that Mastodon lacks quote-posts to protect its users rather than to stay simple. <blockquote>And where are you reading that Mastodon will reinvent the wheel? To me it reads like they are working on Fediverse-wide interoperability for these features.</blockquote> That has been Mastodon's track record since its very inception. I won't believe that anything has changed about this until Mastodon actually implements technology introduced by another Fediverse server project. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotePost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePosts" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotePosts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTweet" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteTweet</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTweets" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteTweets</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteToot" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteToot</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteToots" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteToots</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteBoost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteBoost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteBoosts" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteBoosts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotedShares" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotedShares</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePostDebate" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotePostDebate</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTootDebate" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteTootDebate</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://climatejustice.social/@PaulaToThePeople" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PaulaToThePeople</a> It isn't just a matter of consent. Besides, for example, I do have quote-post control here on Hubzilla. I can give permission to quote-post my posts to <ul><li>everyone in the Fediverse</li><li>everyone on Hubzilla and (streams)</li><li>everyone on this hub</li><li>approved and unapproved connections</li><li>only approved connections</li><li>only those of my connections whom I explicitly give permission by contact role</li><li>nobody but myself</li></ul> Over on (streams), I can still give that permission to <ul><li>everyone in the Fediverse</li><li>all my connections</li><li>only myself + specific connections whom I grant that permission either by permission role or by individual connection settings</li></ul> It's much more a matter of technology. Mastodon is about to completely re-invent the wheel with a non-standard, Mastodon-only setting. This setting will only work within Mastodon simply because it probably won't even be documented anywhere, especially not before it's officially rolled out. There simply is no way that every last instance of Pleroma, Akkoma, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp, CherryPick, Catodon, Meisskey, Tanukey, Neko, dozens of other Misskey forks, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte etc. etc. will have that setting implemented before Mastodon rolls it out so that even the users on mastodon.social are perfectly safe from the first second on. Besides, @<a class="" href="https://fediversity.site/channel/mikedev" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mike Macgirvin 🖥️</a>, creator of Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte and still the only maintainer of the latter two, will never introduce proprietary Mastodon features to them. He'd rather risk (streams) and Forte becoming incompatible with Mastodon. The same goes for @<a class="" href="https://hub.somaton.com/channel/mario" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mario Vavti</a> and @<a class="" href="https://hub.volse.no/channel/harald" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harald Eilertsen</a>, Hubzilla's main maintainers. If Mastodon wants to become a perfectly safe haven against unallowed quote-posting, it has only got one choice: It must introduce something like (streams)' and Forte's user agent filter and use it to block just everything that isn't Mastodon. Like, include a hard-coded allowlist that only includes Mastodon plus what little can't quote or quote-post anyway. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow 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Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://climatejustice.social/@PaulaToThePeople" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PaulaToThePeople</a> @<a href="https://stefanbohacek.online/@stefan" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stefan Bohacek</a> Keep one thing in mind: Mastodon may not have quote-posts yet. But the Fediverse has quote-posts right now. And it has had them since before Mastodon was made. Pleroma, Akkoma, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp, CherryPick, Catodon, Meisskey, Tanukey, Neko, dozens of other Misskey forks, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte etc. etc., they all have quote-posts. They're all fully capable of quote-posting any Mastodon toot. None of them has introduced quote-posts to harass Twitter refugees on Mastodon. At least Friendica and Hubzilla have had quote-posts since long before Mastodon was even made. <blockquote>You will be able to choose whether your posts can be quoted at all.</blockquote> At least by Mastodon users. But since this will be Mastodon re-inventing the wheel with brand-new, proprietary, Mastodon-only technology, everything I've listed above will still be able to quote-post anyone and anything on Mastodon with zero resistance. To quote-post myself and the guy who invented Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte: <a href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/channel/jupiter_rowland?f=&zid=shakedown.social%40shakedown.social" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/channel/jupiter_rowland?f=&zid=shakedown.social%40shakedown.social" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jupiter Rowland</a> schrieb den folgenden <a href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/item/4b01693c-31f5-4998-80f2-2ee530201190?f=&zid=shakedown.social%40shakedown.social" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beitrag</a> Sat, 20 Jul 2024 01:29:11 +0200 I think I've just chased someone out of the Fediverse. That someone was afraid of Mastodon being "screwed over" by becoming quote-post-able. I've told him the truth: Mastodon has been quote-post-able for as long as it has been around. Mastodon became quote-post-able the very moment it was launched. That's because when Mastodon was launched, it immediately federated with Friendica which is from 2010, which had been around for almost six years at that point, and which has had quote-posts from its own inception AFAIK. Mastodon also immediately federated with Hubzilla which has had quote-posts since its own inception, since it had been forked from Friendica, and that was in 2012. Mastodon has never been un-quote-post-able. Right now, there are dozens of Fediverse server apps whose users can quote-post Mastodon toots with no resistance. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotePost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePosts" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotePosts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTweet" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteTweet</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTweets" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteTweets</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteToot" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteToot</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteToots" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteToots</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteBoost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteBoost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteBoosts" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteBoosts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotedShares" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotedShares</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePostDebate" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotePostDebate</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTootDebate" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteTootDebate</a> <a href="https://fediversity.site/channel/mikedev?f=&zid=shakedown.social%40shakedown.social" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://fediversity.site/channel/mikedev?f=&zid=shakedown.social%40shakedown.social" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mike Macgirvin 🖥️</a> schrieb den folgenden <a href="https://fediversity.site/item/6e7c3fd2-1de5-4a08-8455-4d5689a9f658?f=&zid=shakedown.social%40shakedown.social" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beitrag</a> Sat, 20 Jul 2024 03:18:39 +0200 The closest you'll ever get to making Mastodon un-quote-postable is to post privately. Not unlisted. Private. Most fediverse software will honour this today; and it doesn't require yet another "pretend permission". Like unlisted. And Mike should know. He brought things to the Fediverse like actually working permissions. Including permissions on two levels to quote-post any content on a channel. Readily available right now at least on Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte. Also, this is what people on Friendica and its descendants have been using quote-posts for since 2010. <blockquote>You will be notified when someone quotes you.</blockquote> You already are when someone on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) or Forte quote-posts one of your posts. As for Pleroma, Misskey and their forks, you aren't notified right now, and I've got my doubts that you will be after this change. Also, "quote" and "quote-post" are two different things. Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte can do both. "Quote" is what I'm doing right here. Whether or not you're notified depends on whether or not you're mentioned. And blocking quotes is even less possible. A quote only consists of a pair of BBcode tags plus the quoted text in-between. And on Friendica and all its descendants, you don't work with a WYSIWYG editor by default, but you have to get your hands dirty on raw markup code. <blockquote>You will be able to withdraw your post from the quoted context at any time.</blockquote> Again, probably not if someone on Pleroma, Misskey or one of their forks quote-posts you. And definitely not if someone on Friendica or one of its descendants quote-posts you. The difference is that a quote-post on Pleroma, Misskey or one of their forks is actually a reference to the original. On Friendica and its descendants, a quote-post is an automatically generated dumb copy of the original. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener 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Jupiter RowlandOne of the worst aspects of Mastodon's plans to introduce quote-posts with a switch: You keep having to tell Mastodon users that the Fediverse is not only Mastodon. That (insert a long list of Fediverse server applications here¹) have had quote-posts from the beginning. That they're all in the Fediverse. That they're all fully federated with Mastodon. That they can all quote-post any Mastodon toot they can possibly receive or import. And that they will be able to quote-post any Mastodon toot they can in the future, regardless of Mastodon account settings. Up until this point, they were fully, firmly convinced that they're 100% safe from quote-posts on Mastodon. Either because they could not for the lives of them imagine that anything in the Fediverse has them. Or simply because they "knew" up until this point that the Fediverse is Mastodon. And if Mastodon introduces an opt-out or opt-in switch, this switch will mean absolute, 100% water-tight safety from quote-posts. But for the Fediverse outside of Mastodon, the quote-post switch will be completely useless. Again: These lots of Fediverse server apps have had quote-posts before Mastodon introduced them. They had quote-posts before Mastodon invented the opt-in or opt-out switch. I mean, at least two of them have had quote-posts since before Mastodon even existed! So how are they supposed to support a proprietary, non-standard, Mastodon-specific switch which probably won't be documented anywhere before Mastodon rolls out quote-posts? I'll tell you what'll happen. Mastodon users will deactivate quote-posts for their accounts or not activate them in the first place. Non-Mastodon users, not knowing about the status of that switch, will quote-post them regardless with zero resistance. Upon which these Mastodon users will shit brix. And they'll call for either blocking that obviously rogue Mastodon user instance-wide, or blocking that user's instance, or Fediblocking that user's instance. At this point, someone else who is not on Mastodon either will chime in and tell them: That particular user is, in fact, not on Mastodon. The Fediverse is not only Mastodon. That user is on Friendica. No, Friendica is not a rogue Mastodon instance. Friendica is not Mastodon at all. No, Friendica isn't a Mastodon fork either. Friendica has nothing to do with Mastodon. In fact, Friendica is older than Mastodon. On Friendica, quote-posts are perfectly normal. Friendica has had quote-posts for longer than Mastodon has even existed. And so forth. Cue the Mastodon user shitting brix again, foaming with anger and calling for a Fediblock of all of Friendica. In fact, I'm pretty sure that if Mastodon's quote-post feature and the rest of the Fediverse disregarding it leads to more awareness of the non-Mastodon Fediverse and its non-Mastodon features on Mastodon, it will also lead to demands for being able to completely block everything that isn't Mastodon, either on an account level (and then on by default, of course) or on an instance level or both. Oh, by the way: The ability to completely lock out entire Fediverse projects already exists in the Fediverse right now, too. It's exclusive to two other Fediverse server apps that aren't Mastodon, both of which introduced this feature in September. ¹Here's a probably incomplete list of still-active Fediverse server apps with quote-posts which, yes, can quote-post Mastodon toots right now and will be able to quote-post Mastodon toots regardless of opt-in or opt-out: <ul><li>Pleroma</li><li>Akkoma</li><li>Misskey</li><li>Firefish</li><li>Sharkey</li><li>Iceshrimp</li><li>Iceshrimp.NET</li><li>CherryPick</li><li>Neko</li><li>Catodon</li><li>Meisskey</li><li>Tanukey</li><li>Metaskey</li><li>Mitra</li><li>Friendica</li><li>Hubzilla</li><li>(streams)</li><li>Forte</li></ul>And both Threads and the Bridgy Fed Bluesky bridge support quote-posts, too. (Inb4 both Oliphant and The Bad Space trying hard to catch all instances of the server apps mentioned above to blocklist them all.) #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" 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Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mastodon.social/users/shoq" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shoq</a> Self-quote from that long post you should have been notified about: <blockquote>It's because quoted posts = quote-tweets as used on Twitter to harass BIPoC and members of the 2SLGBTQIA+ community. People who, for this very same reason, harassment, have escaped from Twitter to Mastodon which doesn't have quote-tweets and therefore counts as a safe haven. They don't want quote-tweets on Mastodon out of fear of being harassed on Mastodon just the same as they were harassed on Twitter.</blockquote> So it's gays and lesbians and trans people and Black people etc. who've been harassed to the bone by right-wing nutters on Twitter, using quote-tweets. And they don't want the same shit to happen to them on Mastodon again. And they think they're only safe if Mastodon doesn't have quote-tweets. Sorry, still over 500 characters. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Twitter" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Harassment" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harassment</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWHarassment" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWHarassment</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotePost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePosts" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotePosts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteBoost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteBoost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteBoosts" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteBoosts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTweet" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteTweet</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTweets" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteTweets</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotedShares" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotedShares</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePostDebate" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotePostDebate</a>

Graham DownsAll you <a href="https://c.im/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a> fans desperate for a <a href="https://c.im/tags/QuoteBoost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteBoost</a> / <a href="https://c.im/tags/QuotePost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuotePost</a> feature on <a href="https://c.im/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a>, I figured out how you can achieve it so you can share something AND share your comments about it, without breaking the original conversation thread (which is the biggest reason why I *don't* want Quote Tweets to make their way here):1. Reply to the post with your comments. Your reply goes into the thread, but won't be seen by any of your followers, unless they follow the account you're replying to.2. Boost the post you're replying to.3. Boost your reply.You can swop 2 and 3 around if you like, or you can omit 2, provided you write your reply in such a way that someone who hasn't seen the post you're replying to would get an idea of its content.I think that's a really cool compromise, don't you?<a href="https://c.im/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediverse</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/fediTips" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediTips</a>

OyinboAna Navarro-Cárdenas found a bit of George <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Santos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Santos</a> glitter from Christmas :I’m cackling.↘ <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a> of :Ana Navarro-Cárdenas @ <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/ananavarro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ananavarro</a> · 29 Dec 2022 Too bad <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/GeorgeSantos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GeorgeSantos</a> is not a drag-queen. Might be the only way Republicans would express outrage and demand his ouster.⬆ Bruna Benevides 🏳️‍⚧️ @ <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/BrunaBenevidex" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BrunaBenevidex</a> · 1:01 pm · 30 Dec 2022 Replying to @ <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/ananavarro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ananavarro</a>ask him about "<a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Kitara" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Kitara</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Ravache" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ravache</a>"<a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/KitaraRavache" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KitaraRavache</a>

The Nexus of PrivacySocial threat modeling and quote boosts on MastodonHow to improve tools for preventing, and defending against, harassment and abuse?<a href="https://privacy.thenexus.today/social-threat-modeling-and-quote-boosts/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://privacy.thenexus.today/social-threat-modeling-and-quote-boosts/</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QuoteBoost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteBoost</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MissedQuoteBoost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MissedQuoteBoost</a>

Rajeev KumarIf I want to quote a toot/post with my opinion, I would write my opinion and mention the URL of the toot/post at the end of my toot/post.I don't mind if the content of the quoted toot/post is not fully visible with my opinion where it's read, as long as it's not a dead link and readers can open and reply or quote it in their post with their opinion or quote my opinion for the next set of their toots/posts.This functionality already works, and that's what quoting a toot or tweet means to me. So I need help understanding all these ongoing, never-ending discussions around copying twitter for their version of the <a href="https://bihar.social/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a>. <a href="https://bihar.social/tags/QT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QT</a> <a href="https://bihar.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a> <a href="https://bihar.social/tags/QuoteTweets" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteTweets</a> <a href="https://bihar.social/tags/Quote" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Quote</a> <a href="https://bihar.social/tags/QuotePost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuotePost</a> <a href="https://bihar.social/tags/QuoteBoost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteBoost</a>

MollyNYC<a href="https://mastodon.social/@shoq" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@shoq</a> I’m not sophisticated about any technical aspects of the Fediverse, so maybe this is a naive question. But……would it be feasible to set up <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/QuotedPostsOnMastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuotedPostsOnMastodon</a> so that the poster can control whether his or her post can be quoted or not? If so, posters who fear harassment could opt out, and communities that thrive on QTs could opt in.<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a>

Jeremy (יעקב) 🇺🇦<a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/@AkivaMCohen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@AkivaMCohen</a> Since <a href="https://babka.social/tags/QT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QT</a> / <a href="https://babka.social/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a> debate is going again in earnest, I think Mastadon should really lean into the <a href="https://babka.social/tags/Forum" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Forum</a> feel and integrate QT segments. So you can QT, but it is broken up into multiple pieces and you can respond to each individually. That helps the whole platform lean into the long form posting style, as well as discussion rather than pile-ons.

sezduckWhy is <a href="https://twit.social/tags/QuoteToot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteToot</a> getting all of the attention? I’d rather see these features first:- <a href="https://twit.social/tags/EatToot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EatToot</a> - <a href="https://twit.social/tags/WootToot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WootToot</a> - <a href="https://twit.social/tags/ScootToot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ScootToot</a> - <a href="https://twit.social/tags/BootThatMootToot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BootThatMootToot</a><a href="https://twit.social/tags/QT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QT</a> <a href="https://twit.social/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a>

sezduckMastodon QTs for some, miniature American flags for others!<a href="https://twit.social/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a> <a href="https://twit.social/tags/QuoteToot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteToot</a> <a href="https://twit.social/tags/QT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QT</a> <a href="https://twit.social/tags/TheSimpsons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheSimpsons</a>

Carwil Bjork-JamesSo I did some quick tabulation of <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a> uses on today's Twitter to assist the <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/QuoteBoost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteBoost</a> debate on Mastodon.In curated lists of experts and news sources, QT's are frequent and generally positive.In a trending topic on climate change, QT's were infrequent even though the conversation was generally hostile.In a trending topic on Ben Shapiro, a prominent public figure on Twitter, dunking predominated.posted to: <a href="https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/20673#issuecomment-1365351296" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/20673#issuecomment-1365351296</a><a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/TwitterMigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TwitterMigration</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/QT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QT</a>

HammancheezMY DRUNK QUESTION on <a href="https://masthead.social/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a> - there's a lot of people yelling about it and I'm new and don't really care either way but one of the concerns seems to be it enables brigading. I def. see that on Twitter. I'm not sure how much that's a risk on the more distributed Fediverse esp. when reach is limited by boosting/followers and there's no oligarchorithm fucking with you. so it seems like that risk is overstated. Am I full of shit?

myrmepropagandist<a href="https://federated.press/@Mab" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Mab</a> QT stands for "Quote Tweet" which is what it is called on twitter when you re-share a post with a comment appended to the top.Here it would be called "Quote Boost" since we don't have tweets on here. We have "posts," and they get "boosted" :)<a href="https://sauropods.win/tags/qt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#qt</a> <a href="https://sauropods.win/tags/quoteboost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#quoteboost</a> <a href="https://sauropods.win/tags/quotetweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#quotetweet</a>

Art 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈✊🏿🇺🇦🇵🇸If you want <a href="https://lounge.town/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a>, <a href="https://lounge.town/tags/QuoteToot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteToot</a>, <a href="https://lounge.town/tags/qt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#qt</a> or whatever you call it to (better?) do your job, I feel you. But if a feature you want has potential and had proven to cause harm and inflict pain on marginalized folks, you don’t get to demand this feature. You ought to first figure out how to make this feature not cause harm, propose a solution, and then advocate for it. You will have to address criticism and change your proposal based on feedback.

Assuma’s GhostIf <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#mastodon</a> instances want to enable the toot version of a <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/quotetweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#quotetweet</a> it should be set at an account level. If you’re a scientist or historian or someone who finds it useful then by all means open the gates, but I’ve never been personally <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/qt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#qt</a> ‘d by anyone that was for any reason other than platooning. Personally I’d put a rusty old padlock on that feature, but I can see why others are into it.

Rod HiltonFrankly <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a> is a redundant feature even on <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Twitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Twitter</a> itself, it should be removed.It was one thing when you could QT secretly, but a few years ago Twitter added a QT count under each tweet, and you could track when your tweets got QTed.That makes them effectively replies, just rendered differently and counted differently.All replies should be rendered with the original inline if not viewing the thread.A QT is then just a reply you self-boost.

Hobson Lane<a href="https://techfieldday.net/@sfoskett" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@sfoskett</a> this is normal when two cultures collide . Especially when one is the guest of another because their own culture self destructed. At least there aren't hot takes being quote tweeted and fanning the flames<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteTweet</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/QTorNotToQT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QTorNotToQT</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/QuoteToot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteToot</a>

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