OMF!G, I just saw a "native" quote-post on mastodon.social !!!
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I am seeing them from Bluesky accounts bridged to the Fediverse.
I just did a test myself.
RE: https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:scewmn2pl3oz36mxme2b6czz/post/3lquzwwupf22d
The Mastodon devs are talking as if either the Fediverse is only Mastodon, or the Fediverse as a whole doesn't have quote-posts.
Coming soon in #BotKit 0.2.0: Native #quote post support!
Coming soon in #BotKit 0.2.0: Native #quote post support!
Bot.onQuote event handlerMessage.quoteTarget propertyquoteTarget option in Session.publish() and Message.reply() methodsbot.onQuote = async (session, quote) => {
// The quote parameter is a Message object representing the post that quoted your bot
await quote.reply(text`Thanks for quoting my post, ${quote.actor}!`);
// You can access the original quoted message
const originalPost = quote.quoteTarget;
console.log(`Original message: ${originalPost?.text}`);
};// Quote in a new post
await session.publish(
text`I'm quoting this interesting message!`,
{ quoteTarget: someMessage }
);
// Or quote in a reply
await message.reply(
text`Interesting point! I'm quoting another relevant post here.`,
{ quoteTarget: anotherMessage }
);deno add jsr:@fedify/botkit@0.2.0-dev.90+d6ab4bdcRE: https://hollo.social/@botkit/01965678-eb56-7003-9c91-07e4418bf63a[share=74153074][/share]It's because quoted posts = quote-tweets as used on Twitter to harass BIPoC and members of the 2SLGBTQIA+ community. People who, for this very same reason, harassment, have escaped from Twitter to Mastodon which doesn't have quote-tweets and therefore counts as a safe haven.
They don't want quote-tweets on Mastodon out of fear of being harassed on Mastodon just the same as they were harassed on Twitter.
All you #QuoteTweet fans desperate for a #QuoteBoost / #QuotePost feature on #Mastodon, I figured out how you can achieve it so you can share something AND share your comments about it, without breaking the original conversation thread (which is the biggest reason why I *don't* want Quote Tweets to make their way here):
1. Reply to the post with your comments. Your reply goes into the thread, but won't be seen by any of your followers, unless they follow the account you're replying to.
2. Boost the post you're replying to.
3. Boost your reply.
You can swop 2 and 3 around if you like, or you can omit 2, provided you write your reply in such a way that someone who hasn't seen the post you're replying to would get an idea of its content.
I think that's a really cool compromise, don't you?
Ana Navarro-Cárdenas found a bit of George #Santos glitter from Christmas :
I’m cackling.
#QuoteTweet of :
Ana Navarro-Cárdenas @ #ananavarro · 29 Dec 2022
Too bad #GeorgeSantos is not a drag-queen.
Might be the only way Republicans would express outrage and demand his ouster.
Bruna Benevides 
@ #BrunaBenevidex · 1:01 pm · 30 Dec 2022
Replying to @ #ananavarro
Social threat modeling and quote boosts on Mastodon
How to improve tools for preventing, and defending against, harassment and abuse?
https://privacy.thenexus.today/social-threat-modeling-and-quote-boosts/
If I want to quote a toot/post with my opinion, I would write my opinion and mention the URL of the toot/post at the end of my toot/post.
I don't mind if the content of the quoted toot/post is not fully visible with my opinion where it's read, as long as it's not a dead link and readers can open and reply or quote it in their post with their opinion or quote my opinion for the next set of their toots/posts.
This functionality already works, and that's what quoting a toot or tweet means to me. So I need help understanding all these ongoing, never-ending discussions around copying twitter for their version of the #QuoteTweet.
I’m not sophisticated about any technical aspects of the Fediverse, so maybe this is a naive question. But…
…would it be feasible to set up #QuotedPostsOnMastodon so that the poster can control whether his or her post can be quoted or not?
If so, posters who fear harassment could opt out, and communities that thrive on QTs could opt in.
Since #QT / #QuoteTweet debate is going again in earnest, I think Mastadon should really lean into the #Forum feel and integrate QT segments. So you can QT, but it is broken up into multiple pieces and you can respond to each individually.
That helps the whole platform lean into the long form posting style, as well as discussion rather than pile-ons.
Why is #QuoteToot getting all of the attention? I’d rather see these features first:
So I did some quick tabulation of #QuoteTweet uses on today's Twitter to assist the #QuoteBoost debate on Mastodon.
In curated lists of experts and news sources, QT's are frequent and generally positive.
In a trending topic on climate change, QT's were infrequent even though the conversation was generally hostile.
In a trending topic on Ben Shapiro, a prominent public figure on Twitter, dunking predominated.
posted to: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/20673#issuecomment-1365351296
MY DRUNK QUESTION on #QuoteTweet - there's a lot of people yelling about it and I'm new and don't really care either way but one of the concerns seems to be it enables brigading. I def. see that on Twitter. I'm not sure how much that's a risk on the more distributed Fediverse esp. when reach is limited by boosting/followers and there's no oligarchorithm fucking with you. so it seems like that risk is overstated.
Am I full of shit?
QT stands for "Quote Tweet" which is what it is called on twitter when you re-share a post with a comment appended to the top.
Here it would be called "Quote Boost" since we don't have tweets on here. We have "posts," and they get "boosted" :)
If you want #QuoteTweet, #QuoteToot, #qt or whatever you call it to (better?) do your job, I feel you. But if a feature you want has potential and had proven to cause harm and inflict pain on marginalized folks, you don’t get to demand this feature.
You ought to first figure out how to make this feature not cause harm, propose a solution, and then advocate for it. You will have to address criticism and change your proposal based on feedback.
If #mastodon instances want to enable the toot version of a #quotetweet it should be set at an account level. If you’re a scientist or historian or someone who finds it useful then by all means open the gates, but I’ve never been personally #qt ‘d by anyone that was for any reason other than platooning. Personally I’d put a rusty old padlock on that feature, but I can see why others are into it.
Frankly #QuoteTweet is a redundant feature even on #Twitter itself, it should be removed.
It was one thing when you could QT secretly, but a few years ago Twitter added a QT count under each tweet, and you could track when your tweets got QTed.
That makes them effectively replies, just rendered differently and counted differently.
All replies should be rendered with the original inline if not viewing the thread.
A QT is then just a reply you self-boost.
@sfoskett this is normal when two cultures collide . Especially when one is the guest of another because their own culture self destructed. At least there aren't hot takes being quote tweeted and fanning the flames
