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Daniël Franke :panheart:<p>I’m honestly disappointed by anti-capitalists thinking that bluesky/AT will end any better than Twitter, Facebook, or other venture capitalist backed for-profit social media.</p><p>Yes, it’s fun now, and that’s because they are keeping it fun to gather a critical mass of users so that they get the network effect on their side. At some point the capital will dry up, and investors will want to see return on their investment, and suddenly your data is the product again, and when that’s not enough, they will try other more invasive monetisation strategies.</p><p>And if you want to get away from that but still use the at protocol? Hope you have a few thousand per month lying around, because unless you want to remain dependent on the blue sky infrastructure, that’s what you need to afford to run your own at proto infrastructure.</p><p><a href="https://social.ainmosni.eu/tags/bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BlueSky</span></a> <a href="https://social.ainmosni.eu/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a> <a href="https://social.ainmosni.eu/tags/capitalism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Capitalism</span></a></p>
Jeff Sikes<p>A playlist of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ATmosphereConf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATmosphereConf</span></a> 2025 talks.</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL47nQSDRhiP2m8RH_AM4NTWuzN3XA3W27" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/playlist?list=PL47</span><span class="invisible">nQSDRhiP2m8RH_AM4NTWuzN3XA3W27</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/BlueSky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BlueSky</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>atproto</span></a></p>
Chris Messina<p>Had a great conversation with <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://flipboard.social/@mike" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mike</span></a></span> on the history of the hashtag, why Elon is wrong about it, the future of social networks (vis a vis <a href="https://mastodon.xyz/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a>, <a href="https://mastodon.xyz/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a>, etc), and how LLMs may intersect with social media moderation.</p><p>This was a good one.</p><p><a href="https://dot-social.simplecast.com/episodes/chris-messina" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">dot-social.simplecast.com/epis</span><span class="invisible">odes/chris-messina</span></a></p>
@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:<p>One of a number of take-aways from <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ATmosphereConf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATmosphereConf</span></a> —</p><p>I felt like Paul Frazee (from Bluesky Org) was encouraging people deploy their own relays.</p><p>And, to think of the Bluesky Firehose Relay of everything — as a temporary thing to use, when first developing you app or platform. And then later, to deploy your own relay.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ATProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProtocol</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/bsky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bsky</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeSo</span></a></p>
@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:<p>One of a number of take-aways from <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ATmosphereConf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATmosphereConf</span></a> —</p><p>Bluesky might deal with their relay-problem by introducing an architecture that looks a lot like the Fediverse.</p><p>Rather than applications getting everything from the Firehose Relay — applications would get data directly from the relay.</p><p>Although, it wasn't quite clear when whether this would be 'pull' or 'push'.</p><p>But still, it is looking a lot more like the Fediverse's architecture at that point.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ATProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProtocol</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/bsky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bsky</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeSo</span></a></p>
@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:<p>RE: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:dy62mdx64e6i32pcuzfkekmk/post/3ll2zf7thf22v" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">bsky.app/profile/did:plc:dy62m</span><span class="invisible">dx64e6i32pcuzfkekmk/post/3ll2zf7thf22v</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ATProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProtocol</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Censorship" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Censorship</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/bsky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bsky</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeSo</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Moderation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Moderation</span></a></p>
Kuba Suder • @mackuba.eu on 🦋<p>"Hyper-crawlable data", I like that 😎 <a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/AtmosphereConf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AtmosphereConf</span></a></p><p>(Mastodon does not like that)</p><p><a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bluesky</span></a> <a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>atproto</span></a></p>
Kuba Suder 🇵🇱🇺🇦<p>Great short talk by <a class="mention" href="https://bsky.brid.gy/ap/did:plc:oky5czdrnfjpqslsw2a5iclo" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@jay.bsky.team</a> about how we can start changing the world for the better by building digital things, taking away power from "Caesars" and giving it back to the people 🩵 "Don't underestimate the power of small projects" <a class="hashtag" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23AtmosphereConf" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AtmosphereConf</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23atproto" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#atproto</a></p>
@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:<p>At <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ATmosphereConf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATmosphereConf</span></a></p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://cosocial.ca/@boris" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>boris</span></a></span> (one of the organizers) is talking in front of the audience. (Boris and I are both from Vancouver.)</p><p>I see Fediverse people here. For example, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.wedistribute.org/users/damon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>damon</span></a></span> (of We Distribute fame) is sitting next to me.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ATProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProtocol</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeSo</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/bsky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bsky</span></a></p>
Tiziano<p>A great video about why <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> is NOT recommended as a truly open and independent alternative to mainstream <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/socialmedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>socialmedia</span></a>.<br><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@niccolove" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>niccolove</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://tube.kockatoo.org/video-channels/niccolo_ve" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>niccolo_ve</span></a></span> <br><a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/activitypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>activitypub</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>atproto</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/protocols" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>protocols</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/thefutureisfederated" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>thefutureisfederated</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://peertube.uno/w/kSCtZK8HVhK1xGhf54d6kJ" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">peertube.uno/w/kSCtZK8HVhK1xGh</span><span class="invisible">f54d6kJ</span></a></p>
mav :happy_blob:<p>The more I learn about <a href="https://hackers.town/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>atproto</span></a>, the more I'm convinced that every single word spoken about "if we do something evil, people will just make their own thing" is an intentional and harmful lie, a sales tactic, and not just an overstatement. </p><p>atproto is "federated" in the same way that http is; to view a conversation requires reconstructing it yourself from component parts. It can't be federated because it was not designed in a way that makes federation possible. It's not decentralized at all, and similarly was never designed to be.</p>
Faraiwe<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.coop/@cwebber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>cwebber</span></a></span> beyond me why people are still at <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bluesky</span></a>. It's the trap of tHIs tiME WilL be dIFFerEnT, I guess.</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a> is NOT an open API. Any parallel implementation still has to go through bluesky's servers.</p><p>They are still owned by <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DTBO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DTBO</span></a> vulture capitalist cryptobro techbro billionaires, who have stated they will sell your data and info to LLM predatory enterprises.</p><p>Baffling, really.</p><p>Meanwhile, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AcitivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AcitivityPub</span></a> remains simple, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a>, inexpensive, truly decentralized.</p><p>Go figure.</p>
ꓤ uɐᗡ :verified_hellion:<p>lead author of ActivityPub <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.coop/@cwebber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>cwebber</span></a></span> is posting about <a href="https://hellions.cloud/tags/BlueSky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BlueSky</span></a> and <a href="https://hellions.cloud/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a> right meow</p><p><a href="https://social.coop/@cwebber/114194820571954617" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">social.coop/@cwebber/114194820</span><span class="invisible">571954617</span></a></p>
william.maggos<p>But Jay is literally the Caesar of <a href="https://liberal.city/tags/bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bluesky</span></a> rn. Like they did with the Trump-Musk AI video, the relay can shut down anything at any time. I know everybody says this will change, but that's not where they are today.</p><p>It is where the fedi has always been. But we don't have the media attention that comes with VC investment etc. I know I should stop bitching but shouldn't people who are pushing misleading PR be responded to with facts and better arguments?</p><p><a href="https://liberal.city/tags/SocialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialWeb</span></a> <a href="https://liberal.city/tags/ATproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATproto</span></a> <a href="https://liberal.city/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a></p>
william.maggos<p><a href="https://liberal.city/tags/ATproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATproto</span></a> exists because VCs couldn't figure out how to cash in on <a href="https://liberal.city/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a>. that's it.</p><p>please stop telling me you can fix him.</p>
Boris<p>You’re replying to Rudy who built Blacksky as well as a Rust implementation rsky of <a class="hashtag" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23atproto" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#atproto</a> We’ve all read Christine &amp; Bryan’s posts and the community is working on making more relays or alternate approaches for sharing subsets of content.</p>
Open Risk<p>The Venn diagram of the protocol wars between <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/activitypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>activitypub</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>atproto</span></a> and thinking of a day that <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Twitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Twitter</span></a> will stop being the benchmark of success for decentralized social media platforms.</p>
Fediverse Report<p>ATmosphere Report - This week's <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>atproto</span></a> news:</p><p>- <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> releases a protocol roadmap and a proposal for handling user intents<br>- Tangled is a git collaboration platform on atproto<br>- Blacksky is working towards Cypher, an AppView with local-only posting</p><p><a href="https://fediversereport.com/atmosphere-report-2025march-b/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">fediversereport.com/atmosphere</span><span class="invisible">-report-2025march-b/</span></a></p>
Strypey<p>What I'd really like to see is BlueSky modifying their AT protocol to allow AT relays to treat ActivityPub servers as Personal Data Servers. Maybe by using aspects of the Solid protocol, as demonstrated by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@activitypods" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>activitypods</span></a></span>?</p><p><a href="https://activitypods.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">activitypods.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>No idea if this is technically viable, I'm just thinking out loud here. But just imagine unifying the efforts of AP, Solid and AT developer ...</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/BlueSky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BlueSky</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/PDS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PDS</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/ActivityPods" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPods</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/Solid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Solid</span></a></p>
Mike McCue<p>Just closed the <a class="hashtag" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23fediversehouse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediversehouse</a> at <a class="hashtag" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23sxsw" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sxsw</a> after an amazing two days. Loved being IRL with so many people building the open social web together. <a class="hashtag" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23atproto" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#atproto</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23activitypub" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#activitypub</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23rss" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rss</a></p>
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