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Heute hat @revogt für #DNIP die Argumente der E-ID-Gegner angeschaut und analysiert.

Fazit: Viele der aufgebrachten Gegenargumente haben nichts mit der E-ID zu tun. Und in einigen Fällen verbessert die E-ID die Situation sogar.

Sollten alle vor der Abstimmung lesen (und teilen).
#eID #BGEID #eIDja
dnip.ch/2025/08/15/vogt-am-fre

Vogt am Freitag: Gespenster
Das Netz ist politisch · Vogt am Freitag: Gespenster - Das Netz ist politischKommerzielle Auswertung, massenhafte Datenspeicherung, Überwachung durch Tech-Konzerne: Die Gegner der neuen E-ID malen ein düsteres Bild. Aber die meisten

lass chatgpt ein bild von dir im simpsons stil erstellen - aaaber sicher doch! 🤦‍♂️
die menschheit ist einfach nicht zu retten 🤷‍♂️
wozu brauchen wir eigentlich noch #eID? einfach openAI fragen, die können jede identität bestätigen

@SilviaMarton
Ich bin klar dafür. Ja, es gibt einige Dinge, die etwas klarer geregelt hätten sein sollen. Aber da ist das eID-Gesetz bei weitem nicht alleine und kaum jemand macht dort so ein Aufheben.

Die #eID ermöglicht auch viele privatsphärefreundliche Umsetzungen von gesetzlichen Anforderungen im In- und Ausland, die ohne eID nicht so gut umgesetzt werden können.

Und das Team beim Bund hinter der eID (gerade auch für die Architektur und technische Umsetzung) ist sehr gut.

Klares Ja.

Was ist eigentlich unsere Meinung zur #eID ?

(Ich hab meine noch nicht ganz gemacht, hab aber ne Tendenz)

Edit: Eine kurze "Regel" möchte ich hier einführen. Bitte antwortet mir nach Möglichkeit direkt, anstatt eure Antworten unter andere Antworten zu setzen. Soll eher ne Art Brainstoriming sein, kein "zurechtweisen" jener, die eure Meinung nicht teilen.

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Ausweiszwang für das Internet, Massenüberwachung per Vorratsdatenspeicherung und "Digitale Identitäten" wie sie die EU gerade umsetzen will, drohen bald auch in der Schweiz.

Während das politische System der Schweiz gerne mehr "demokratische Mitbestimmung" verspricht, zeigt sich an diesem Beispiel, wie vehement die digitale autoritäre Transformation um jeden Preis durchgesetzt werden soll.

So versucht der Schweizer Staat die Vorratsdatenspeicherung und den Ausweiszwang per Verordnung durchzusetzen und nicht einmal parlamentarisch auszuhandeln. Die erst vor wenigen Jahren von der Bevölkerung in einer Abstimmung mehrheitlich abgelehnte, überwachungskapitalistische "E-ID" soll wiederum einfach in einem neuen Anlauf durchgesetzt werden.

derstandard.at/story/300000028

DER STANDARD · In der Schweiz tobt ein Kampf um die Ausweispflicht im NetzEine Vorlage zur Online-Überwachung fiel auf breiter Front durch, soll jedoch trotzdem umgesetzt werden. Ein Gespräch mit Experte Erik Schönenberger über nächste Schritte
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@adisonverlice even if an #MVNO isn't demanding any #KYC whatsoever (i.e. #prepaid are offered OTC in most juristictions) it's NOT "#Anonymous" but merely #pseudonymous as it's trivial for governments to utilize existing and mandtory "#LawfulInterception" appliances to create that #PII chain.

#PhoneNumber <=> #ICCID (#SIMcard) <=> #IMSI (SIM profile) <=> #IMEI (Phone/...).

So if #Anonymity is important, NONE of these details have to be linked somehow even circumstantial.

  • Bought/paid for the phone/SIM/ a single top-up with ec/CC/PayPal/SEPA/… = busted due to circumstantial connection.

  • Use the SIM in any device? Consider them circumstantially connected forever: #ICCID <=> #IMEI.

  • Same applies to #eSIM|s: #EID <=> #ICCID <=> #IMEI.

Add to the fact that most places have #CCTV, and assume that they'll keep recordings for the maximum permissible duration if not longer and oftentimes even use questionable cloud services and you get the picture.

  • I.e. in Germany the maximum permissible storage duration is 72 hours (if nothing hapoens that warrants a longer storage i.e. burglary/theft/robbery/arson/...) so anonymous top-ups would necessitate paying cash at a place one's not been known at (i.e. some kiosk) and waiting at least >72 hours (and checking on the purchase location) before redeeming the top-up code (i.e. dialing *104*1234567890123456# )...

So any #privacy-based service should never ever & under no circumstances demand a Phone Number!

  • Instead any privacy-focussed service should use #OnionServices, host their own #OnionService or at least #DontBlockTor and allow users to use it via @torproject / #Tor to use and signup. (But don't forget circumstantial connections there either!)

  • Also the less details they want or store and the least traffic they generate the harder it is to correlate traffic & users.

EXTREMELY IMPORTANT:

The Mask-Off Moment for Digital Identity

newdesigncongress.org/en/note/

> Now, as we prepare to publish, the polite façade of digital identity has shattered; every principal threat model we outlined in 2024 can now be observed in operation; some at pilot scale, others nationwide.
>
> In other words, all of the threats described in this report have materialised. Every single one.
>
> In my 12-year career, I have never, ever seen anything like it.

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@stman @Sempf @LaF0rge yes.

Because physical SIMs, like any "cryptographic chipcard" (i.e. @nitrokey ) did all that fancy public/private crypto on silicon and unless that was compromizeable (which AFAICT always necessistated physical access to the #SIM, espechally in pre-#OMAPI devices) the SIM wasn't 'cloneable' and the weakest link always had been the #MNO /.#MVNO issueing (may it be through #SocialHacking employees into #SimSwapping or LEAs showng up with a warrant and demanding "#LawfulInterception"):

Add to that the regression in flexibility:

Unlike a #SimCard which was designed as a vendor-independent, #MultiVendor, #MultiProvider, device agnostic unit to facilitate the the #authentification and #encryption in #GSM (and successor standards), #eSIMs act to restrict #DeviceFreedom and #ConsumerChoice, which with shit like #KYC per #IMEI (i.e. #Turkey demands it after 90 days of roaming per year) und #lMEI-based #Allowlisting (see #Australia's shitty #VoLTE + #2G & #3G shutdown!) are just acts to clamp down on #privacy and #security.

  • And with #EID being unique per #eSIM (like the #IMEI on top!) there's nothing stopping #cyberfacist regimes like "P.R." #China, #Russia, #Iran, ... from banning "#eSIMcards" (#eSIM in SIM card form factor) or entire device prefixes (i.e. all phones that are supported by @GrapheneOS ), as M(V)NOs see the EID used to deploy/activate a profile (obviously they don't want people to activate eSIMs more than once, unless explicitly allowed otherwise.

"[…] [Technologies] must always be evaluated for their ability to oppress. […]

  • Dan Olson

And now you know why I consider a #smartphone with eSIM instead of two SIM slots not as a real #DualSIM device because it restricts my ability to freely move devices.

  • And whilst German Courts reaffirmed §77 TKG (Telco Law)'s mandate to letting people choose their devices freely, (by declarong #fees for reissue of eSIMs illegal) that is only enforceable towards M(V)NOs who are in #Germany, so 'good luck' trying to enforce that against some overseas roaming provider.

Thus #Impersonation attacks in GSM-based networks are easier than ever before which in the age of more skilled than ever #Cybercriminals and #Cyberterrorists (i.e. #NSA & #Roskomnadnozr) puts espechally the average #TechIlliterate User at risk.

  • I mean, anyone else remember the #Kiddies that fucked around with #CIA director #Brennan? Those were just using their "weapons-grade #boredom", not being effective, for-profit cyber criminals!

And then think about those who don't have privilegued access to protection by their government, but rather "privilegued access" to prosecution by the state because their very existance is criminalized...

The only advantage eSIMs broight in contrast is 'logistical' convenience because it's mostly a #QRcode and that's just a way to avoid typos on a cryptic #LocalProfileAgent link.

Zohran and Yuh-Line fasted 15 days to protest predatory taxi medallion loans driving cabbie suicides. Having done it, can say it’s much harder than a sunup-sundown #Eid fast.

#eid #ausweisapp #ausweis #id To get a document concerning one's registration at the local authorities in DE one used to be able to have it sent to your registered address by a few clicks on a simple site. Now one needs a user account & for that an electronic ID set up for which you need a PIN. If you have no PIN there is no online procedure for getting one nor any information on-line as to how to get one. Digital on-line procedures are just a tool to fail to serve the public. #failingState