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@ntnsndr
Are you happy with the default Xournal++ settings on the PineNote? I have tweaked them so much, am tempted to refresh, now that I have a sense of how they feel. I haven't found a good user community, for sharing things like config settings. Not sure what I think of the Pine64 forums. The wiki requires git submissions.

#pineNote #pine64 #xournal @pine64

@aram No it is not really interoperable. You cannot run #Zotero on it, for instance, and they purposefully don’t open up the API to permit it. I am waiting for the Firefox ARM release to instead get a #pinenote that can run Zotero. Thought Remarkable would be open, but it is sadly enough only #opencore.

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@farooqkz

I was looking at BOOX for an e-paper-based laptop-like device, but then I learned that they withhold Linux kernel source code modifications in violation of the GPL, which turned me off from their brand.

Thinking about getting a #PineTab or #PineNote as a daily carry device, or possibly a #ClockWorkPi #uConsole as a handheld.

I had canceled all of my hardware purchase plans in light of the stupid #tariffs, but those now appear to be going away, hopefully, at least in the short term.

files.hrdl.eu/pn_2025-03-20_sw
Reposting this video here from community member Hrdl.

This video demos the improved display controller driver for the #pine64 #PineNote, which means goodbye to artifacting and welcome to automatic redrawing on a per pixel basis. As seen in the video, the display runs at a higher (and stable) 84Hz refresh rate than the stock 80Hz thanks to some tuning.

You can find the work Hrdl has been doing here: git.sr.ht/~hrdl/linux

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Made an outline for the PineNote video. I'm going to put together a "good enough" video so it actually gets done and I can make more videos to cover different aspects later.

I'm surprised by the amount of interest but I'm so excited to see that. I want to do my part of the Community Edition contribution by sharing all the info I can. Software development isn't the only way to contribute to FOSS!

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PineNote Fedi Q&A

Thanks for the interest. There were some overlapping questions, I'm reviewing by category. I don't have answers for every question but I'll do my best and some of it will have to come later out of necessity. I'll be adding a link to a full blog post here soon™: (PineNote - Day One).

Linux Experience

This is a first-class Linux device, full on Debian Trixie with a full Gnome desktop with Pine specific packages that are pinned so they're not overridden by generic packages. The on-screen keyboard has been the only source of frustration. The display runs at 200% and the keyboard isn't optimized for that.

Display Rendering Modes

There's a handy widget to change the current display rendering modes based on what you're doing.

  • Grayscale: 16 levels of gray for best quality, slowest refresh, good for graphics.
  • DU4: 4 levels of grey, great for reading (text is very crisp).
  • B&W + Dither: best for fast refresh needs, writing, terminal, etc. still easy to read but display will feel lower res.
    B&W and B&W invert: these exist but I haven't found them to be that useful for me yet.

Backlight

Wonderfully configurable from very dim to burn your retina. The white and the warm backlights can be controlled individually from the quick access, so you can create your own perfect color temperature. Genuinely delighted by this!

Applications

  • Terminal: Gnome Terminal, everything works great, touch typing hampered by on-screen keyboard but entirely good experience as a terminal with B&W + Dither mode.
  • Browser: Firefox, full install, works with plugins (only tried uBlock Origin).
  • Reader: KO Reader (more utilitarian) and Foliate (more UX polish) but both work great with epub and mobi, didn't try pdf much but it works. I will test annotation, marking, etc. later. It's a good eBook experience, I'm happy to say but as long you realize that it's not that small but definitely not heavy for its size and build quality.
  • Note-taking: Xournal++, works fine out of the box but can be improved with some community config. Haven't used the writing much, more on that in the future. Without config, totally usable but not a dream.
  • App Sources: Anything available in Debian Trixie and Flatpaks cab be enabled. I plan to test and use Flatpaks, will report back.
  • Sync: Syncthing built-in but I read people are also using NextCloud with it. Will test both in the future, might need a test NextCloud instance (if you want answers sooner).

Battery

Definitely not enough data to say. I've been poking and prodding the device most of the day and it has used about 30% of charge so that is very encouraging. Closing the folio case and opening it up again is almost instant response, which I love (was a big fear).
Speculation: The device must be doing some good battery management it seems since first launch of app after inactivity takes a bit to startup but is responsive after launch.

Peripherals

I have not connected Bluetooth devices yet, I plan to test it with Bluetooth mouse, keyboard, and headphones and report back in the utnext couple days.
Disclaimer based on very quick research: There's no USB-C dock functionality, the chip supports USB 3 PCIe,but the actual circuit out to USB-C connector is USB 2.0. There is no physical way for display mirroring (as in act as a external display) or multi-monitor support (as in extend/duplicate screen). But there are Gnome tools to achieve this, I'll play with them at some point.

Resources

Thanks for asking

@MrMozz, @chris, @tdback

@PINE64 I haven't tagged you on every single reply/post but I did want to make you aware in case I misrepresented anything, I'd be happy to correct any factual errors.

shom.dev · PineNote - Day OneI’ve been eye’ing the PineNote for years and recently decided to check up on it. The community has been hard at work it starting to look ready for prime now. I would LOVE an ebook reader and note taker but do not want to be tied into proprietary walled gardens (tempted most by the Remarkable 2 / Paper Pro). I didn’t find much review type information on the PineNote since it’s original developer edition release several years ago. So I decided to be the change I wanted to see and bought one. It’s Open-Hardware, Free Open Source Software (FOSS), and the main distro is purely community built, the purchase justifications just write themselves!
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I have been really hoping the warm front light was decent. It is fantastic! That's about halfway up the brightness scale. The regular (white/blue) and warm front lights are separate sliders both in the quick access menu (white is totally off).

Garmin watch is still showing a bit more blue than white. I adjusted the color balance to correct for the camera and get it to a close as what I see in a pitch black room.

More updates later, send any questions you have. Quick (pine) note 🥁, the plastic back feels good but it's a fingerprint magnet but the folio cover is very nice.

The PineNote is here! I'm planning on making a hands on video to share my experience. Let me know if you have any questions you want me to try and answer. I don't plan to do technical tests but open to collaborating on it.

First impression, feels like a quality and sturdy device. Feels good in the hand, the texture is a kinda soft grippy plastic. Pen felt good, the writing friction seems ok, I don't want to make any software qualifications until I update the device but still happy with the out-of-box experience. The wake from sleep time is essentially instant.

@PINE64 great work on the PineNote, I'm very impressed with the hardware!

Edit 2: there's renewed interest in this post, feel free to check out the first impressions video (~6 mins, which has a good bit of usage footage), in case that post isn't visible to you.

Edit: Link to blog post with thoughts after day one. Since I'm on a single user instance most people may not see the thread with info that hasn't been boosted, the post has all of it.

#PineNote Community Edition [PREORDER COMING SOON] popped up in the #pine64 store ($399): pine64.com/product/pinenote-co

PINE STOREPineNote Community Edition - PINE STOREThe PineNote orders will dispatch weekly from Hong Kong warehouse. BODY Dimensions: 191.1 x 232.5 x 7.4mm Weight: 438g Build: Polymer & PMMA Colour: White & Black DISPLAY Grayscale 16 e-paper display Front Light: 36 levels of blue and amber light Capacitive multi-touch panel EMR pen digitizer Resolution: 1404x1872, DPI: 227 PLATFORM CPU: Rockchip RK3566 (1.8GHz 64-bit quad-core Cortex A55) GPU: Mali G52 2EE MEMORY Internal Flash Memory: 128GB eMMC System Memory: 4GB LPDDR4 EMR pen SOUND Loudspeaker: stereo Microphones 4x COMMUNICATION WLAN: Wi-Fi 802.11ac, hotspot capable Bluetooth: 5.0 FEATURES USB: USB2.0 Type C (USB host) Sensors: gyro for portrait/ vertical orientation BATTERY Li-Po 4000 mAh battery Charging: USB type-C, 15W – 5V 3A Quick Charge PACKAGE CONTENTS PineNote USB-A to USB-C charging cable Quick Start User Manual EMR Pen Protective cover Device Warranty: 30 Days Note: The PineNote Community Edition is aimed at Linux developers with an extensive knowledge of embedded systems and/or experience with mobile Linux. Due to restrictions placed on shipment of Lithium-ion battery operated devices, such as the PineNote, it needs to be purchased separately from other items in the Pine Store. Adding other items to the basket will return an error at check-out.
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So, right now the setup is the same as yesterday, except I have let the #PineNote charge fully overnight, hooked up an unpowered 4-port USB hub to the USB-C port, plugged a wired keyboard into the hub, and ran sudo systemctl set-default multi-user to disable launching GDM3 at boot. Some poking of ~/.tmux.conf and /sys/module/rockchip_ebc/parameters/bw_dither_invert and it's a quad-core arm64 #linux #eink laptop analogue without a case.

I'll be letting it mostly idle whilst connected to wifi and with htop on display to see how a light yet constant load affects the battery life throughout the day - currently at 81.9% after 1h22m of uptime.

Stay tuned!