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Kevin Karhan :verified:

@BernieDoesIt @Catvalente similarly, people need to explore and use #Patreon alternatives.

Pretty shure platforms allowing and endorsing #NSFW also accept SFW content…

Worst-case y'all gotta learn how to use #Monero for once and get paid that way. There are payment providers like nowpayments.io that remove all the uncertainties and instant-convert to #fiat so you don't need to fiddle around with it or any #shitcoin|s!

Feel free to hate and block me if you must, but the reality sometimes is that simple and won't change just because it's inconvenient to admit the #Enshittification happens!

  • #Apple rent-seeking 30% would get me to press charges against Apple and Patreon for #theft, but I've got neither a Patreon nor a Patrons on it!
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Sean Fenian

The inestimable @catvalente@mastodon.world has a post up describing in detail the ways in which #Patreon's most recent set of changes screw #creators. tl,dr: Most Patreon creators' Patreon income just dropped by 30% with no changes to subscriptions. Almost a third of their Patreon income: POOF, overnight. And this is ON TOP of the previous set of changes Patreon made that also screwed creators.

It's even worse, I understand, if you use the Patreon app. And worse yet if you use it on iOS. Because if you use the Patreon app on iOS, Apple extracts a 30% vigorish as well, and Patreon subscriptions through the iOS app additionally face a ridiculous 75 day hold. Nearly three months during which Patreon earns interest on your money before passing about two thirds of it on to the creator you're trying to #support.

This impacts every creator on Patreon.


What can you do?

Don't subscribe through the Patreon app.

Don't subscribe through the Patreon app.

Don't subscribe through the Patreon app.

I'll repeat that one more time for people who didn't get it: Do. Not. Subscribe. To anyone. Via the Patreon. App. There is nothing about the Patreon app that is good except for Patreon's owners. If you have an existing subscription via the app, consider at the very least canceling it, WAITING FOR THE BILLING CYCLE TO EXPIRE, and the re-subscribing using a web browser.

The viability of Patreon is diminishing fast. Greed is once again killing the golden goose. Patreon started out as a way to support creators. Now the creators are the product. There are other platforms for supporting creators — KoFi, Libera Pay, to name two — but forklift-migrating entire communities wholesale to them is not easy.


What else can you do?

If you want to support a creator, ask what platform is best for them. They may have their own subscription page that does not use Patreon. (Randy Cassingham of This Is True, for example.) If you use Patreon, do not use the Patreon app to subscribe. Open the site in a browser and subscribe that way.

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Catherynne M. Valente

We are already terrified--artists are always considered expendable & economic chaos means no one has much wiggle room.

To do this do the hundreds of thousands of artists who rely on #Patreon to live when it's about to cost $50 for a fucking carton of milk is utterly gutting.

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Catherynne M. Valente

If you want to help out, obv. becoming a patron if you weren't before would help shore up the gaping hole we're all grappling with. But do it through a BROWSER, which circumvents all these issues

You could also email #Patreon, as we've all done, & complain. I'm not sure they're listening, though

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Catherynne M. Valente

If you're already a patron and you signed up through the Apple store, unfortunately, cancelling & re-subscribing through a browser will only work at the end of a billing cycle, as they won't take a new sub before the current cycle is up. #patreon

But beyond that...it doesn't look like good.

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Catherynne M. Valente

Many changes took effect at #Patreon today, all devastating to creators' income,especially those of us who rely on Patreon to...not die

I woke up to my income slashed by 28% despite no change in patrons. I'm not alone--all while our economy burns

I'm not sure what to do, but there's a few things 🧵

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Dilman Dila

This is frustrating. I'm exploring options to #crowdfund for my feature film, but I live in the wrong continent. No platform accepts creators from Uganda/Africa, so I'm stuck with #patreon and ko-fi and the like. I guess my best option now is to create a page on my website and some kind of form to collect details of backers and a button for them to make a donation to the project. Not fun, since I don't have a huge following 😭

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