Looks like I dodged a bullet when I decided /not/ to randomly add a class slot to one of the main metaclasses. In chapter 2:
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Don't be fooled by this: metaobject protocols are not designed or implemented by arbitrarily exporting the internal structure of existing implementations. As we go along, we will give explicit attention to the design principles underlying our evolving metaobject protocol.
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@simoninireland

> I shortened Jim des Rivieres to Rivieres. Is this correct, or am I meant to write des Rivieres?

I would keep "des" and more importantly I would check what the already established practice for citing this name is in the literature.
That would also include keeping the accent (des Rivières).

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@screwlisp

[Applying the Metaobject Protocol.]

Needless to say, if you not only read that book, but also put it to use, you will learn a lot and that is priceless.

What you describe seems like a suitable problem to apply the MOP to and to get a grasp of it.
Good hunting!

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@dougmerritt @weekend_editor @sigue @abuseofnotation @screwlisp

Right now I'm thinking that the real value of _The Art of the Metaobject Protocol_ is showing one way to do metaprogramming, and object-oriented programming is merely a demonstration domain.

Of course, what begat AMOP was a desire for an approach that can cover a large part of the OOP language design space, not just one point in that space, in order to be attractive to different schools of thought.

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@dougmerritt @weekend_editor @sigue @abuseofnotation @screwlisp

> no one else has been mentioning (so far as I've noticed) "The Art of the Metaobject Protocol"

Not in this thread.
Indeed, this book is a tour de force (et de magique).

> uncertain that the topic deserved such a deep analysis

The topic—maybe, maybe not, but the book is really about the metatopic, i.e. about metaprogramming, if I may abuse this prefix.
(I know this ought to be formulated more carefully.)

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