@passthejoe for the server side I feel like @fedora #CoreOS is pretty close. It’s not exactly rolling in the traditional sense, but it does auto update by default and eventually you will get a major update. We try to get those tested pretty well by CI and the community (the next stream gets updated at Fedora beta time) and make announcements about major changes before they come. There are many many systems that have auto updated their way from 35 all the way through 42.
Here's an example of why the @fedora #coreos update graph is extremely useful. The user had a system that hasn't been updated in a really long time and they wanted to update it. Without the update graph it doesn't happen!
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/unsupported-lua-script-when-running-rpm-ostree-upgrade/155119
@cmccullough @centos @almalinux Try AlmaLinux. Stable, rock solid. Works like a charm.
(Or go immutable with #Fedora #CoreOS or #openSUSE #MicroOS)
This past week I went on The Self Hosted Show from Jupiter Broadcasting Studios to talk about @fedora CoreOS edition. Was great to chat with @ironicbadger, Brent Gervais and Chris Fisher, especially since it's been a few years since we were last able to catch up.
Check out the show!
Hey @hetzner,
The folks at Fedora have done the work to make a Hetzner-specific image of CoreOS (see https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1324).
When do you think we’ll be able to see it in this menu with a little lightning icon next to it?
Ball’s in your court now :)
Happy to see Fedora has implemented CoreOS support for Hetzner. Guess the ball’s in Hetzner’s court now: would be great to see it as one of the natively-supported operating systems with rapid deploy (under 10 seconds deployment).
Some upstream contributor’s have been hard at work and we now have a Hetzer Cloud downloadable image and docs page for @fedora #CoreOS Nice work everyone! https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-coreos/provisioning-hetzner/
PSA on Fedora CoreOS cloud uploads that will be getting pruned. These are for uploads that are older than two years.
If you're using one of these versions, please consider updating!
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/starting-to-prune-fedora-coreos-cloud-images/138927
Day 2 at #FlockToFedora is packed with technical sessions! 
* Join talks on the @centos Hyperscale SIG, the state of EPEL, and how to automate Fedora CoreOS installs.
* Learn from Fedora maintainers about package management and system testing.
* And more!
Schedule: https://cfp.fedoraproject.org/flock-2024/schedule/
Streams:
Red Hat Room: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZJkQtcap04
Lenovo Room: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hqW4NLXp2Q
Rocky Room: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLD23eBKKkc
Azure Room: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v67hQh0_wg0
Looks like Fedora’s going to be creating CoreOS images for Hetzner. Very much looking forward to this. If all goes well, it should mean that Small Web sites can be fully self-maintaining with automatic transactional updates.
(The Hetzner bit is important as they also need to be affordable. Although the plan is that there will be multiple VPS providers supported in the future.)
https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1324#issuecomment-2248557673
Bootc is basically the next generation of rpm-ostree. Here's an early look at bootc from someone who happened to start looking into Fedora CoreOS at the same time as bootc was announced. It's an organic exploration of both!
https://fedoramagazine.org/a-great-journey-towards-fedora-coreos-and-bootc/
Fedora CoreOS is great for the server use case, but it might be tricky for someone new to it. How does it use rpm-ostree? What is Butane? What are Ignition files? But once you get going, it might be your new favorite way to manage a homelab (and more)!
https://fedoramagazine.org/unlocking-the-power-of-fedora-coreos/
The Fedora Project is taking rpm-ostree and atomic systems to the next level with our bootc community initiative!
The goal is to evolve Fedora Atomic Desktops, Fedora CoreOS, and Fedora IoT to incorporate bootable containers. You will get the benefit of an atomic OS on your computer while unlocking a world of customization through the cloud native development model.
Learn more and get involved! https://fedoramagazine.org/get-involved-with-fedora-bootable-containers/
I've published another episode in my "rebuilding the homelab" series! Today it's about Fedora #coreos
"Due to a bug in rpm-ostree, the '/etc/[g]shadow[-]' files in Fedora CoreOS, Fedora IoT and Fedora Atomic Desktops have the world-readable bit set.
To fix impacted systems immediately, run the following command as root:
$ chmod --verbose 0000 /etc/shadow /etc/gshadow /etc/shadow- /etc/gshadow-
For more details, notably the full list of affected versions, see: https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree/security/advisories/GHSA-2m76-cwhg-7wv6 "
- @siosm, Fedora maintainer
Looks like Hetzner Cloud support was added to coreos/ignition at the end of last year.
Really wondering what needs doing to get CoreOS support into Hetzner at this point and who to talk to to hopefully get this done.
Looks like Vultr has it but it’s too expensive. We’d have to charge at least €25/mo instead of ~€10/mo for a Small Web site with Hetzner to make the same ~€5/mo to try and make Small Technology Foundation sustainable.
And I really want Small Web sites to be affordable so folks can experiment and play with them.
(A few notes:
- Setting up a server and then installing CoreOS is out of the question. Small Web sites have to be set up in under a minute.
- Must be affordable. We need to be sustainable while not charging more than €10/mo.)
- EU-based.
Right now, it seems I’ll have to go with Ubuntu although I really don’t want to as I want the rpm-ostree auto-updates in CoreOS to make the sites zero admin as possible.)
StarkZarn 
