@landley @mrmasterkeyboard yeah.

Personally, if "producing paper" wasn't undesireable you'd propably consider just taking the subsets of #POSIX and #LSB you're implementing and standardizing that as a sorf-of "#TINYNIX" (MININIX may be confused with Minix, MICRONIX and NANONIX already exist) standard.

• Simply because you've propably taken a look at every userland-tool you want to include or have included in #toybox and asked if it's necessary to make a self-hosting OS.

I just tend to ask what are the comfort features and tools that I use and want if I have to use "my little distro" for my daily job as linux sysadmin.

@HeatSinkAmbassador @halva @ubuntu @opensuse Then why did #Linux standard on SystemD?

• Certainly @linuxfoundation or whoever writes the #LSB took their time re: that change and if you have ever habe to deal with huge amounts of servers, the whole benefits of the "#SystemD suite" really works well, because noone wants to deal with a shitton of filters & #syslog over journalctl -xe …

Don't get me wrong, @OS1337 runs off a single /etc/init file..., but for an embedded distro of it's tinyness, that is acceptable.

@kaia @hj @why@shitposter.world Well, AFAIK #vi is in the #LSB and not only does #CentOS & #RHEL come with it, even #toybox comes with a partially complete vi implementation...

• Personally I do intent to ship kilo on @OS1337 and package @neovim@hachyderm.io / @neovim@programming.dev / #neovim and potentially #NvChad for it because it's fecking awesome, just like fish is cool.

Re: #Ubuntu I do use #nano on it sonce it comes preinstalled and I rarely need it anyway.

@cameronbosch @funkybuddha @itsfoss That being said AFAICT #RedoxOS at least has a #GUI, so unlike #OS1337 there's way less work necessary to build applications for it.

• Tho I've not looked what - if any - 3rd party software has been packaged. I'm shure they don't have @torproject / #TorBrowser or @thunderbird or @libreoffice ported (yet) and IDK how much #Redox aims to comply with #POSIX, #LSB or any other #Standards at all...

@jk because technically it's the #LinuxSubsystemForWindows [#LSW or "Lasow"] and not #WindowsSubsystemForLinux [Which is #wine as it provides #Windows - #API's and #ABI's under #Linux.]

#But #Microsoft is known for fucking up things and making #enshittified and worse clones of existing #POSIX & #LSB tools...

@SweetAIBelle @OS1337 nodds in agreement #LinuxFromScratch basically builds a whole #GNU / #Linux distro with #rpm and all the #LSB-compliant stuff...

• I too think it's really #bloated because most of that isn't needed.

Similarly I think that #SystemD is a net positive on anything beyond space-constrained minimalism. It just didn't make the cut being too big to fit as of now.