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-healthy food,
-clean drinking water
-a clean, safe, and private space to live
-the means available to wash our clothing
-healthcare and access to medication
-comfortable bed for sleeping
-transportation
-heating and cooling
-access to the tech devices modern life now requires

If we have all that ⬆️ and I am listening to complaints about how terrible life is because we are missing out on anything else, I'm sorry but my empathy is feeling rather limited.

#Housing #Poverty #HumanRights #Entitlement #ClimateEmergency
#Economy #Discrimination #War #ClimateMigration #Biases

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"In 2024, #Africa saw an alarming series of extreme climate events—prolonged droughts, devastating floods, and heatwaves—that affected millions of lives.

The number of displaced individuals jumped from 1.1 million in 2009 to 6.3 million in 2023. Floods were the leading cause of displacement, responsible for over 75 percent of forced movements, while droughts were accountable for 11 percent."

ippmedia.com/the-guardian/busi
#ClimateMigration

www.ippmedia.comClimate change fuels forced migrations, says survey | The Guardian
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@climatebrad

It feels to me like "build more housing" can't be the answer. You almost might as well say "make more land". It's not a durable solution. And it doesn't address the many other aspects of society that need to be addressed. Jobs food commerce in general, schools, the nature and flow of community itself.

A favorite quote comes to mind.

"Better implies different."
--Amar Bose, at an MIT Enterprise Forum event

(He was trying to explain to sales people at stores that would sell Bose speakers why they had to make changes in how they set them up. "Couldn't they just do what they'd always done?" The people would ask. They were used to that and did not want to change. He was trying to explain succinctly why you can't just radically improve something and leave it the same at the same time. So he, explained, that slogan had emerged.)

Surely higher population density at some point means using existing resources differently. I'm not pushing an agenda here, but I am observing that higher density feels less compatible within every person for themselves and traditional-ownership / rent-taking-for-profit model. Surely that brings a 2-tiered citizenship and breeds discontent/danger as inequality simmers.

In computer science, we talk about building systems that scale, planning for higher traffic. This could really be done in a system that did not plan for scale without the architecting the system entirely, and I've even seen some of pine that every factor of 10 in scale requires a redesign.

Sometimes the architectural plan is indeed to just add servers, but that has to be planned in, and there has to be a source of servers, and the system architecture has to be structured such that in the new model, all the necessary flows will happen correctly and resources won't be cut off from each other or too hard to access or too expensive.

"Build more housing." does not sound like the kind of answer I could give in a job interview and expect to be hired, with the hiring manager saying "this person has clearly demonstrated their understanding of operating at scale". The answer is not of a shape that seems right to me, nor does it offer sufficient detail.

A lot of capitalism seems to operate on a theory that you just twist some knobs and everything will just happen right without coordination. I think this is less and less true as either populations grow larger or resources grow smaller or resources become more stressed.

I did not write the accompanying article specifically to address this issue, and yet I feel like it says some important additional things I might say here if I were to ramble on. It is not a complete discussion of scale, but more discussion of why I don't think the traditional ways of thinking about just turning a few knobs is likely to keep working.

Losing Ground in the Environment
netsettlement.blogspot.com/201

It also just not addressed the issue of urgency, and the way in which urgency materially changes the set of usable solutions. I did try to address that issue here:

The Politics of Delay
netsettlement.blogspot.com/202

netsettlement.blogspot.comLosing Ground in the EnvironmentEssay on how we can't still see the world as an infinite resource. Things are interconnected and finite, so we need a fresh mindset when planning.
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"Al Jazeera examines the 359 million weather-related displacements recorded worldwide since 2008.

Out of the 359 million weather-related global #displacements recorded since 2008, nearly 80 percent were from the Asia and Asia Pacific regions, accounting for about 106 and 171 million respectively."

aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/22/
#ClimateMigration

Al Jazeera · Mapping the impact of climate change on global displacementBy Usaid Siddiqui

Houston Public Media: Nearly half of Houstonians considered leaving, new poll finds, mainly due to weather

The survey, conducted in Fall 2024, found that 48% of people considered moving out of the Houston area. Of that, 70% said weather is a reason. Pollsters believe Hurricane Beryl and its aftereffects is a big reason why.

houstonpublicmedia.org/article #climatemigration #climate #TXwx #immigration #ClimateEmergency #hurricanes #HurricaneBeryl

Houston Public Media · Nearly half of Houstonians considered leaving, new poll finds, mainly due to weatherBy Kyle McClenagan

"It is a perverse irony that many of Europe’s far-right parties and Trump Republicans in the US – strongly opposed both to immigration and also to climate action – know they stand to benefit electorally from influxes of people fleeing the climate crisis (a crisis to which they themselves are contributing by their persistent contemptuous opposition to net zero initiatives)."

independent.co.uk/voices/europ
#ClimateMigration

The Independent · It’s more important than ever to talk about how climate affects immigrationBy Andrew Gilmour

"#ClimateMigration can be a win-win

Far from seeing migration as a threat, the researchers argue that it can actually be a win-win for both people and the climate.

However, this requires global leaders to constructively communicate the economic benefits of migration and effective integration. "

earth.com/news/climate-migrati

Earth.comClimate migration is an urgent reality that cannot be ignoredGlobal cooperation can address climate-induced migration and reshape migration policies in response to the climate crisis.

Can't help but wonder how much worse these floods have been made by all of the deforestation in Brazil —

"Devastating and ongoing flooding in southern Brazil is forcing some of the half million displaced residents to consider uprooting their lives from inundated towns to rebuild on higher ground."
reuters.com/world/americas/per
#Brazil #ClimateCrisis #ClimateChange #ClimateRefugees #ClimateMigration

"Cryin' won't help you, prayin' won't do you no good /
No, cryin' won't help you, prayin' won't do you no good /
When the levee breaks, mama, you got to move..." - "When the Levee Breaks," by #MemphisMinnie and #KansasJoeMcCoy in 1929, covered by #LedZeppelin in 1971.

The #Flooding Will Come “No Matter What”

The complex, contradictory and heartbreaking process of American #ClimateMigration is underway.

April 11, 2024

"As the U.S. gets hotter, its #coastal waters rise higher, its #wildfires burn larger and its #droughts last longer, the notion that humankind can triumph over #nature is fading, and with it, slowly, goes the belief that self-determination and personal preference can be the driving factors in choosing where to live. Scientific modeling of these pressures suggest a sweeping change is coming in the shape and location of communities across America, a change that promises to transform the country’s politics, culture and economy.

"It has already begun. More Americans are displaced by catastrophic #ClimateChange driven storms and floods and fires every year. The Internal Displacement Monitoring Centre, the global nongovernmental organization researchers rely on to measure the number of people forcibly cast out of their homes by natural disasters, counted very few displaced Americans in 2009, 2010 and 2011, years in which few natural disasters struck the #UnitedStates. But by 2016 the numbers had begun to surge, with between 1 million and 1.7 million newly displaced people annually. The disasters and heat waves each year have become legion. But the statistics show the human side of what has appeared to be a turning point in both the severity and frequency of wildfires and #hurricanes. As the number of displaced people continues to grow, an ever-larger portion of those affected will make their moves permanent, migrating to safer ground or supportive communities. They will do so either because a singular disaster like the 2018 wildfire in Paradise, California — or Hurricane Harvey, which struck the Texas and Louisiana coasts — is so destructive it forces them to, or because the subtler 'slow onset' change in their surroundings gradually grows so intolerable, uncomfortable or inconvenient that they make the decision to leave, proactively, by choice. In a 2021 study published in the journal Climatic Change, researchers found that 57% of the Americans they surveyed believed that changes in their climate would push them to consider a move sometime in the next decade."

propublica.org/article/climate

ProPublicaThe Flooding Will Come “No Matter What”: Climate Change is Already Forcing People From Their Homes
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"If Lustgarten and the scientists he cites are right, tens of millions of Americans, or more, will pack up and move to them. If #ClimateMigration on that scale comes to pass, it will dwarf the Dust Bowl migration of the 1930s.

Lustgarten’s central argument is that #HomeInsurance companies and government subsidies are perversely masking risks in threatened areas, making migration overdue."

undark.org/2024/03/29/book-rev

Undark Magazine · Book Review: Confronting the Slow Calamity of Climate MigrationIn the book “On the Move,” Abrahm Lustgarten details how global warming could displace millions of Americans.