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Free Software Foundation<p>We submitted an amicus brief in the case entitled <a href="https://hostux.social/tags/Neo4j" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Neo4j</span></a>, Inc., et al. v. Suhy, et al., Case No. 24-5538 in the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. Read the details here: <a href="https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-submits-amicus-brief-in-neo4j-v-suhy" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">fsf.org/news/fsf-submits-amicu</span><span class="invisible">s-brief-in-neo4j-v-suhy</span></a></p>
Preston Maness ☭<p><a href="https://sfconservancy.org/static/docs/sfc-neo4j-amicus-brief.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">sfconservancy.org/static/docs/</span><span class="invisible">sfc-neo4j-amicus-brief.pdf</span></a></p><p>&gt;A licensor is free to apply contradictory and self-defeating license terms to its software; the courts are not bound to save it from the consequences of that choice.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;...<br>&gt;<br>&gt;By stepping in to salvage Neon's catastrophic drafting, the district court is forced to adopt an interpretation that cannot be squared with the balance of the NSSL. <br>&gt;<br>&gt;...<br>&gt;<br>&gt;This court should not contort the text of this important license to preserve the interests of a single party who wielded it unwisely.</p><p>The whole amicus brief is a good read, but damn there's some good sass towards the end XD </p><p>This is the sort of legal work that makes the conservancy shine, and I hope that the conservancy keeps its members abreast of this case as it develops. Good work Aaron Williamson and good work Software Freedom Conservancy!</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.sfconservancy.org/users/conservancy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>conservancy</span></a></span> <a href="https://tenforward.social/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>foss</span></a> <a href="https://tenforward.social/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a> <a href="https://tenforward.social/tags/gpl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gpl</span></a> <a href="https://tenforward.social/tags/agpl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>agpl</span></a> <a href="https://tenforward.social/tags/agplv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>agplv3</span></a> <a href="https://tenforward.social/tags/FreeSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FreeSoftware</span></a> <a href="https://tenforward.social/tags/neo4j" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>neo4j</span></a></p>
Karsten Schmidt<p>For 12 years already, I've been on/off experimenting (and prototyping) to create a compendium &amp; knowledge graph about computational &amp; generative art, the different movements/genres/mediums (e.g. architecture, design, visual art, audio/music, sculpture, kinetic/motion, film/animation, text etc.), influences, definitions/references, people (artists, curators, writers, thinkers), collectives, organizations (foundations, galleries, museums), exhibitions/festivals, tools &amp; tool makers, common techniques used, art platforms — everything tagged and also supporting to browse by time (centuries &amp; decades, currently starting ~1600) and region...</p><p>Attached are some screenshots of my first prototypes from 2011/12 (using <a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/CouchDB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CouchDB</span></a>, then <a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/neo4j" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>neo4j</span></a> for storage &amp; my own tools for force-directed graph layout) and of the current prototype using <a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/Logseq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Logseq</span></a> (<a href="https://logseq.com" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">logseq.com</span><span class="invisible"></span></a>)... The latter is working great for now and feeling, I'm getting somewhere this time, also because I have to make it work (for work!). This is all still just a beginning, hundreds of more people, orgs, projects &amp; references to import and re-check from older versions. The current contents are _very_ biased to my own network/trajectory in/through this space...</p><p>Ps. Following up with all the folks &amp; materials I've included already, I'm realizing again and again just how I've been the most naïve and _worst_ person to monetize (mostly not even trying!) my art/contributions... For 20 years I've filed 90% of hundreds of my projects under "experiments", "sketches", "demos", "tutorials" (often also to help illustrate techniques of my open source tools), only to realize (not for the first time) almost everyone else of my old peers has been way less selective and been attaching way more importance to all of their outputs... Maybe one day I will learn, before it's too late...</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/KnowledgeGraph" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KnowledgeGraph</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/GenerativeArt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GenerativeArt</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/Art" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Art</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/Research" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Research</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/Documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Documentation</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/History" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>History</span></a></p>
Dave Aitel<p>You actually get worse results sometimes when chunking text up to an LLM for bug finding and patch generation, even when the bug is super obvious like trans2open (see screenshot which is a simple strncopy(dest, src, len(src)) bug, which this attempt completely missed. What you want is a graph of "context" annotations applied to code chunks (aka, probably functions). You get this with a simple semantic search (which is built into <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/neo4j" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>neo4j</span></a> now) across a bounded subgraph.</p>
darthvader42<p><a href="https://sueden.social/tags/neo4j" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>neo4j</span></a> pro tip: if your <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Cypher" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cypher</span></a> query is almost 300 lines of cypher code, you're doing something fundamentally wrong.</p>
Suhail<p>Can anyone recommend a reliable online resource for learning Neo4j? I'm open to both free and paid options. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. </p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/neo4j" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>neo4j</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/graphdb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>graphdb</span></a></p>
Dave Aitel<p>Here is a presentation I did today on how to actually use <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/neo4j" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>neo4j</span></a> :) <a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/YY-ugAHPu4M?feature=share&amp;t=1057" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/live/YY-ugAHPu4M?f</span><span class="invisible">eature=share&amp;t=1057</span></a></p>
Dave Aitel<p>I hear this will be good : <a href="https://neo4j.com/event/neo4j-live-analyzing-oss-with-graph-algorithms/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">neo4j.com/event/neo4j-live-ana</span><span class="invisible">lyzing-oss-with-graph-algorithms/</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/neo4j" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>neo4j</span></a></p>
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hmmm maybe spacing them out doesn't make sense because then there'd be more jobs to cleanup per run so they might still overlap. increasing batch size may speed it up but am still concerned with memory usage.

okay, maybe try apoc.periodic.commit first, that way, we can also isolate the effect.

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gotta take a look at these on Monday:
1. check for overlap by job's time taken
2. space out recurring cleanup jobs to prevent overlap
3. use apoc.periodic.commit to prevent pre-loading nodes outside of the batch to memory?

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re #2, two weeks ago, we found a bug that kept around some jobs that should've been cleaned up from our Neo4J jobs database. it was brought to light when our db kept crashing with OOM. it stopped crashing when we disabled the cleanup jobs.

the thing is, we're already using apoc.periodic.iterate to batch the detach deletes. however, the cleanup was scheduled hourly.

i'm not sure whether a single run was enough to cause the OOM, or it was overloading because of overlap.