What cool new stuff has been announced at #ATmosphereConf?
What cool new stuff has been announced at #ATmosphereConf?
STEAL AND BRING BACK SOMETHING FROM OUR FULLY AUTOMATED LUXURY GAY SPACE COMMUNISM FUTURE: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8kUKEmWQ9UY
My lightning talk from the Atmosphere Conference, DO NOT REPLY TO THIS LIGHTNING TALK, is up nw.
PEOPLE, NOT PLATFORMS
I was lucky enough to present some of the ideas I brought up in my "Bridges & The Last Network Effect" blog post and the work we're doing at @anewsocial at the #ATmosphereConf this weekend.
Let's build bridges, not walls
The energy at #ATmosphereConf was indeed very positive and optimistic, and there were some great talks and discussion sessions. Dan's got a great summary of @kissane's talk; @rudyfraser.com's talk starting at 1:34:30 in the Sunday livestream is great as well.
And as for the #FreeOurFeeds session Dan describes so vividly ... the session I suggested that hile I very much agree with their goal of European data soverignty and it's great to hear his perspectives that funders are willing to invest in it, the initial focus on a relay - or slightly-broader focus on a relay and PDS - isn't going to get them there, they really need to take a system view. The response was something along the lines of "let me turn it around and ask what you think are the key aspects from the system view." Wait a second, I'm not the one who's trying to raise $30 million here! Oh well, they once again got a lot of feedback, let's see if they incorporate it.
It’s Not 2006 Anymore; The Useful, Vernacular Institution; What Is Free Our Feeds, Anyway? has @danhon's perspectives on the #ATmosphereConf. An excerpt:
"It felt like being at an O’Reilly ETech conference in the early 2000s. These were the conferences where web2.0 was invented, solidifed, and named. They were incredibly optimistic times and clearly with the benefit of hindsight, we were stupendously naive and privileged. You just have to look back over the last 18-odd or so years to see how what we thought would happen by default (“more people connected means good things will happen!) totally did not happen and instead ended up reinforcing and making existing power structures worse. Sorry.
But the energy from those conferences was there over the weekend. It felt like the beginning of something that could make a difference.
What matters is how different ATMosphere 2025 was. For one, the people who were there in the early 2000s were there to say amongst other things: these are the mistakes we made. These are the assumptions we made. Please make new mistakes. There’s no need to go over what we did. Here’s what we learned. Here were our blindspots. Here’s who wasn’t in the room. So it was different -- and better -- that Rudy Fraser from Blacksky was there.
Now is the time that we need to be making new mistakes."
One of a number of take-aways from #ATmosphereConf —
I felt like Paul Frazee (from Bluesky Org) was encouraging people deploy their own relays.
And, to think of the Bluesky Firehose Relay of everything — as a temporary thing to use, when first developing you app or platform. And then later, to deploy your own relay.
One of a number of take-aways from #ATmosphereConf —
Bluesky might deal with their relay-problem by introducing an architecture that looks a lot like the Fediverse.
Rather than applications getting everything from the Firehose Relay — applications would get data directly from the relay.
Although, it wasn't quite clear when whether this would be 'pull' or 'push'.
But still, it is looking a lot more like the Fediverse's architecture at that point.
During your session today at #ATmosphereConf , I think you mentioned that DIDs were on your wishlist for ActivityPub.
If I understood you accurately —
Were there particular DID methods that you found interesting?
"You can't scare people into using shit.. you give them cool things that make them love themselves" @rudyfraser.com #ATmosphereconf
Social Threat Modeling gets a shout-out from @kissane.bsky.social at the #ATmosphereConf! Here's some 2018 work with @digitalsista.bsky.social ... and great point about approaching it *collaboratively*.
medium.com/a-change-is-...
"Social threat modeling"
Quick reminder to #ATmosphereConf attendees - we have an after-party meetup at Big Time Brewing @ 7pm tonight!
ATmosphereConf Saturday Post-C...
Daniel talking about what if #Bluesky goes evil or gets stupid :D #AtmosphereConf
"Hyper-crawlable data", I like that #AtmosphereConf
(Mastodon does not like that)
@reiver is at the ATmosphere conference (Bluesky) and has a great live feed going. They are covering some of the discussions that aren’t being streamed, so be sure to bookmark it to review later.
#BlueSky #ATmosphereConf https://mastodon.social/@reiver/114207056631876788