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Jupiter Rowland
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I mean, the Fediverse already has Lemmy, KBin, and MBin.

So there's already an ecosystem of pre-built communities out there.

/kbin is dead. Has been since last year. The last instances that haven't moved to Mbin are withering away.

However, in the "Lemmy clone" category, there's also PieFed, and Sublinks is still in development.

Also, the Facebook alternative Friendica ("Facebook alternative" not as in "Facebook clone", but as in "better than Facebook") has had groups since its launch in, 2010, five and a half years before Mastodon. Hubzilla has had groups since 2012 when it still was a Friendica fork named Red. (streams) (2021) and Forte (2024) have groups, too. All four are part of the same software family, created by the same developer. And interacting with their groups from Mastodon is somewhat smoother than interacting with a Lemmy community.

On Friendica, a group is simply another user account, but with different settings: In "Mastodon speak", it automatically boosts any DM sent to it to all its followers. In reality, it's a little more complicated because, unlike Mastodon, Friendica has a concept of threaded conversations. (No, seriously, Mastodon doesn't have it. If you think Mastodon has it, use Friendica for a year or two as your only daily driver, and then think again.)

Likewise, on Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte, it's another channel with similar settings.

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Jerry on Mastodon

#Piefed (#Reddit alternative), and #Lemmy and #MBIN alternative too, has added a nice new feature called "Feeds" which is like multi-reddit. You can create your own public feeds by combining a number of communities together. People on any other Piefed instance can subscribe to your feed.

If you're interested in using Piefed as a Reddit alternative, or checking out this feature, I run a public instance, feddit.online. You can see all Piefed server choices at join.piefed.social/try/

piefed.social/post/500805

feddit.onlineFeddit.online - Explore Anything, Discuss EverythingThis is a public PieFed instance. We are administrated in the Boston, MA, area but open to everybody in the galaxy.<br>Prohibited behavior:</strong…
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Rimu

#PieFed just added a multi-reddit feature, which we're calling "Feeds". It combines multiple Communities (actors of type "Group" in ActivityPub) into one.

Feeds can be followed from other PieFed instances, which will subscribe the follower to all the communities in the feed.

Try it out at piefed.social/feeds

It's similar to PieFed's concept of a Topic piefed.social/topics, except topics are maintained by the instance admins. Feeds are crowdsourced and federated topics.

piefed.socialPieFed
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David B. Himself

One thing that prevented me from jumping on the Lemmy bandwagon was the UI that I found underwhelming and a bit unpractical (and I'm someone who prefers the "old Reddit" UI and who doesn't mind the vanilla Mastodon).

That was until I discovered Piefed! Very similary to Lemmy (I assume it's a fork) but with a much nicer UI. It also has a great onboarding except for the part where it automatically signed me up to too many topics.

(thanks @atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org for putting it on my radar)

#Reddit #Lemmy #Piefed #Fediverse

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Chris Trottier

Everything on this #Piefed community does not originate from Piefed:

https://piefed.social/c/lumoura

It originates from #Akkoma or #Pixelfed. Specifically, I’m sending posts that originate from @atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org and @atomicpoet@pixelfed.social to @lumoura@piefed.social.

Now why would I do this? Because I want to:

  1. create photo streams around a unique aesthetic
  2. de-couple certain content away from my personal accounts
  3. allow people to experience that content through different social media lenses

Yes, I believe this is a very big deal—which is why I talk so much about it.

piefed.socialLumouraAn arts and culture aesthetic that has a certain unexplainable mood.
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Chris Trottier
Group actors are essential to the Fediverse.

They’re the best way to create a community and have a topical discussion.

For example, I might want to talk about PC gaming. Without group actors, I have to hope someone who follows me also likes PC gaming which, considering the demographics of people who tend to follow me, is not so likely.

I also like to write about aesthetic things. Which is also an interest of mine that isn’t generally mainstream enough for the Fediverse.

And music? People on #Mastodon don’t want to talk about that either.

So how to solve this problem?

By tagging a group actor on #Lemmy, #Piefed, or #NodeBB. Preferably, one that has to do with the topic you want to discuss. And believe me, this is more effective than hashtags.
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Chris Trottier

Here’s screenshots of all four photo-based #Piefed communities I’m running.

Now if these posts look familiar, that’s because I’m posting them from #Akkoma and #Pixelfed – and they’re submitted to Piefed by tagging the relevant communities.

This is what I mean when I say that people on #Lemmy are seeing something drastically different from what you’re seeing on #Mastodon.

Screenshot of !sizz@piefed.social
Screenshot of !lumoura@piefed.social
Screenshot of !dustbloom@piefed.social
Screenshot of !blue@piefed.social
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Chris Trottier

I’m leveraging Piefed for something incredibly neat.

You might notice that I’m tagging my photography posts with usernames. In fact, those are not usernames – they are #Piefed communities.

And to get the full effect of what I’m doing, it’s important to visit each individual community for the full aesthetic impact. So here’s the links:

  1. @dustbloom@piefed.social: https://piefed.social/c/dustbloom
  2. @blue@piefed.social: https://piefed.social/c/blue
  3. @lumoura@piefed.social: https://piefed.social/c/lumoura
  4. @sizz@piefed.social: https://piefed.social/c/sizz
  5. @recordpics@piefed.social: https://piefed.social/c/recordpics

More important is how I’m submitting content to those Piefed communities. From pixelfed.social and atomicpoet.org, I’m uploading photos from those two servers: pixelfed.social is my own artwork; atomicpoet.org is interesting art I stumble upon. After I upload a photo, I give it a description in a post, then tag it with the community “username” I want it to submit it towards.

Once the post is live, the originating server sends the post over to Piefed, and Piefed reposts it to the community I tag.

Voila! I now have submitted my post to an aesthetic and curated community, for which anyone can collaborate with me on.

Within a day, we got lots of activity here – and several people are already interacting with photos posted there.

@fediverse

piefed.socialdustbloomA community for sharing the dustbloom arts and cultural aesthetic.
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Chris Trottier

Sizz is now on the Fediverse!

I’ve created @sizz, a new image-based #Piefed community that is an evolution of r/Sizz, a subreddit that I started back in 2017 and currently has 37K subscribers.

While other #Sizz communities exist on the Fediverse, this is the only one that I am involved with. Unlike the subreddit, this one will have relaxed rules for now – at least until there’s reasons to adjust them.

Enjoy! This will be bustling quite soon!

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Chris Trottier

I wanted to see the current status of group actor support in #Mastodon.

This feature has been requested all the way back in 2016. It’s a feature request that is so old, it’s the 139th ticket. After it was made, @gargron stated shortly after:

I made a decision not to implement groups. They offer little benefit over a cost of added complexity, and the bangtag syntax personally irks me too.

A year later, he re-opened the feature request and said:

Reopening, but not high priority.

No further update since then. Nearly a decade after this feature had been requested, group support has not been added and it’s still not a high priority.

Now the intent of this post isn’t to wag my finger at Mastodon and say, “How dare they!” It’s clear that Mastodon is in a transitional state right now, and their focus is on other things – like quote posts and search.

But it is to say that the development of this feature is so completely out of Mastodon’s control that it now represents an opportunity loss for the platform. Because the truth is – whether or not Mastodon supports group actors – many Mastodon users are using it anyway even though this causes quite a few UI/UX problems along the way. Namely, the common Mastodon user cannot differentiate between a single user account and a group actor.

So now we have two groups of Mastodon users: those who want to make use of services like #Lemmy, #Piefed, #NodeBB, and those who are completely unaware of those services and ask, “Why the hell is Mastodon acting like this when I try to interact with that account?”

More to the point, group actors should be embraced because not only is this a valuable feature, but they’re also critical for community safety. No one can moderate a hashtag, but they can certainly moderate a Lemmy community.

Like I said, though, development of Mastodon is ongoing – whether Mastodon participates or not. And that specific element of the #Fediverse continues to grow, despite the fact that the most used Fediverse service (sans Threads) regards it as “low priority”. As long as Reddit and Facebook Groups users seek out an open, federated alternative, there will be demand for group actors.

Why am I saying all this? Because this is my plea for better interoperability. It is certainly within Mastodon’s right to be picky about what features they implement. However, the Fediverse would be plainly better if Mastodon finally supported this important ActivityPub standard.

https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/139

@fediversenews

GitHubSupport groups · Issue #139 · mastodon/mastodonBy cphuntington97
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Chris Trottier

I’ve created four new #Piefed photo-based communities. They are:

  1. @recordpics
  2. @dustbloom
  3. @lumoura
  4. @blue

I’ll mostly be using these communities to post photos from #Akkoma and #Pixelfed. Not only will they categorize these photos in a coherent manner, they’ll be open for other contributors, and also be easy to moderate.

Why not use hashtags instead? Simple: anyone can use a hashtag and no one can moderate them. Which means they’re easy to spam.

For my purposes, groups are simply better.

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