I know that lots of folks here don't like Bluesky (and I understand most of the reasons why), But now that it's open, I tried to explain the reasons why I am excited about it and hope it succeeds. https://www.techdirt.com/2024/02/06/bluesky-opens-up/
@mmasnick @mike@flipboard.social Seriously, what's the path to monetization for Bluesky? This article sounds incredibly naive to my cynical ears.
Bluesky is a platform built for social media broadcasters and their audience. It's a streaming service more than a conversation.
Jack didn't build Bluesky because he read your paper, he built it because he needed a version of Twitter that would be easier leverage for paid content.
@mike@thecanadian.social @mike@flipboard.social i mean, most of that is wrong.
But they've talked about business models in terms of providing additional add on paid services (which they already do with domain registrations for unique usernames). There is likely to be more like that as well.
And, if you don't think it's "conversational" um, I don't know what to tell you. It is.
@mmasnick @mike@flipboard.social You certainly are in the habit of telling people they're wrong. From your point of view as a social broadcaster, it seems conversational because one to many is what you're looking for and the experience you're looking to replace from Twitter.
I've read more on the proposed business model, and I'm not convinced that selling ancillary services is adequate. I see paid content in their future, and yes I could be wrong..
@mike@thecanadian.social @mike@flipboard.social I say what I believe. If someone is wrong, I feel like it's worth it to point it out.
And, to be clear, you're wrong when you say that I'm looking for "one to many." I am not. I find it weird and awkward.
I'm looking for conversation.
@mmasnick @mike@thecanadian.social @mike@flipboard.social
I find a whole lot of the below and folks asking for money because of this or that hardship. I’ve also found interesting things to read as well but there’s a whole lot of distracting noise that seems to take precedence over meaningful communication.
@LittleTokyo @mike@thecanadian.social @mike@flipboard.social follow better people? Or use different feeds to find better people? Or use the tools they give you to filter out stuff like that? I've yet to see a single request for money or anything like what you appear to be seeing.
@mmasnick @mike@thecanadian.social @mike@flipboard.social Such a shill! I don’t really care, carry on shilling. How much are they paying you? Can I get a lick?
@LittleTokyo @mike I made what I thought was a helpful suggestion to try to help you and you call me a shill? JFC. What is wrong with you?
I'm not paid anything. And you're exactly the reason that I keep thinking Mastodon just might not be for me. Such self-righteousness.
@LittleTokyo @mmasnick @mike@thecanadian.social a lot of Mikes in this convo! For the record Mike Masnick has been equally supportive and critical of both Mastodon and Bluesky. I think both have approaches that are useful to understand and learn from especially as Threads federates which dwarfs both. Activitypub has a ton of momentum but there are some things Bluesky is doing that will be important for scale especially regarding moderation. Clearly both networks have their fair share of trolls.
@mike@flipboard.social @LittleTokyo @mmasnick I'm not as up to speed as I should be on Blue Sky moderation, but at one time the personal tools were lacking. If you're referring to algorithmic or ai based moderation, I'd be wary. Obviously with the gates now open, they'll start to be tested. I can see Bluesky gaining critical mass and then being sold. I have thoughts on AT but I'm not an expert so I'll digress.
@mike@thecanadian.social @mike@flipboard.social @LittleTokyo one of the reasons they kept it closed so long was to build up moderation efforts. They now have a team of people and a bunch more tools, including some they've begun to open source.
@mmasnick @mike@thecanadian.social @LittleTokyo This concise post will bring you up to speed on "composable moderation"... a really good idea that should happen on #ActivityPub too. This is definitively not something that should stay exclusive to Bluesky.
https://bsky.social/about/blog/4-13-2023-moderation
Also, check out this excellent panel with Yoel Roth, Jay Graber and Mike Masnick.
@mike@flipboard.social @mmasnick @mike@thecanadian.social Thanks, I’ll check this out!
@LittleTokyo @mike@flipboard.social @mmasnick @mike@thecanadian.social
A bit late to this thread - just curious if anyone knows what is in the pipeline for Activity Pub - what are they actively working on to adjust the protocol? Anything in light of the new competing protocols?