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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://soc.megatokyo.moe/users/wyatt" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>wyatt</span></a></span> Also glancing from the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PC98" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PC98</span></a> architecture and specific quirks that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> accounts for in <code>menuconfig</code> it's most likely not gonna be enough to <em>"just boot the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/i486" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>i486</span></a> version of <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>OS1337</span></a></span>"</em>...<br><a href="https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob/main/OS1337-core-prerelease.img" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob</span><span class="invisible">/main/OS1337-core-prerelease.img</span></a></p><ul><li>Tho given the fact this is just a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>toybox</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>musl</span></a> / Linux Distro that is barely booting using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/syslinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>syslinux</span></a> and able to spit out a 80x25 MDA console, it is in an early infancy.</li></ul><p>As for the specifics of the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PC9821" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PC9821</span></a>+ and their detailed hardware I'm clueless beyond the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC-98#Models" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Wikipedia Article</a> and can only Assume anything before a (RAM-upgraded) <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/9821Ap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>9821Ap</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/9801BA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>9801BA</span></a> is off the table and a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/9821Af" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>9821Af</span></a> or better is desireable as the 14,6MB RAM limit will really become a problem quickly, as I'm pretty shure it's impossible to get <code>linux-6.6.6</code> run on anything below 8MB <em>at all</em> and most recommendations hint that 16MB is more often than not a practical limit (tho that may be becaise 10/12/14 and other "asymetric" configurations were already avoided back then)...</p><ul><li>The <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/9821Ce" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>9821Ce</span></a> should be workable in theory tho again that's just me reading a specsheet.</li></ul><p>On the flipside I did manage to install <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WindowsXP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WindowsXP</span></a> on machines with 32MB RAM and actually get them to display a desktop (abeit with seconds per frame instead of frames per second) so this is more likely a question of chipping down things.</p><ul><li>Worst-Case one could see to build a bootable CD-ROM or <code>dd</code> something on a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BlueSCSI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BlueSCSI</span></a> or similar...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://soc.megatokyo.moe/users/wyatt" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>wyatt</span></a></span> +9001%</p><p>I want shit to be as brutally simple as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/C" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>C</span></a> because I can just take <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>musl</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>toybox</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/syslinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>syslinux</span></a> and with a few config files make a booting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/distro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>distro</span></a> like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>OS1337</span></a></span> …</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://groupe-tazor.com/@Yuki" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Yuki</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>OS1337</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://evokegts.umbrellix.org/@bjornsdottirs" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>bjornsdottirs</span></a></span> no need to go beyond 1440kB when using <a href="https://github.com/OS-1337/mlb" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">mlb</a> instead of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/syslinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>syslinux</span></a> (which wastes 200kB on it's own!)</p><ul><li>Also including the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/initramfs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>initramfs</span></a> into the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Kernel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Kernel</span></a> can save more due to better compression than two seperate files.</li></ul><p>Needless to say the core idea is to be a continuation of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tmsrtbt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tmsrtbt</span></a> and a <em>"minimalist <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a> distro"</em> as in <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SSH" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SSH</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Terminal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Terminal</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firmware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Firmware</span></a>"</em>...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>OS1337</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://groupe-tazor.com/@Yuki" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Yuki</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://evokegts.umbrellix.org/@bjornsdottirs" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>bjornsdottirs</span></a></span> well, it does work given aggressive <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/xz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>xz</span></a> compression.</p><p>Problem is rather to shove more on a 1440kB FDD than initramfs+kernel.</p><p>Tho a bootfloppy w/ <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/syslinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>syslinux</span></a> that then bootstraps multiple splitted initramfs parts in RAM from multiple disks should be possible.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TinyCore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TinyCore</span></a> shows that a minimalist distro can be featureful!<br><a href="http://tinycorelinux.net" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">http://</span><span class="">tinycorelinux.net</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@dalias" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>dalias</span></a></span> +1</p><p>I avoid <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Rust" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Rust</span></a> because it adds <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/complexity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>complexity</span></a>.</p><ul><li>In fact I'm yeeting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SYSLINUX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SYSLINUX</span></a> from <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>OS1337</span></a></span> because it's ~200kB of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/bloat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>bloat</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Perl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Perl</span></a>...</li></ul><p>I really want things to be <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/113056829228595459" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">KISS - principled</a>...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>Sorry for the delays but I've had to work on some things that prevented me from working on <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>OS1337</span></a></span> ...<br><a href="https://github.com/OS-1337" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">github.com/OS-1337</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>I've had to basically <a href="https://github.com/OS-1337/mlb" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">fork</a> the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mlb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mlb</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/bootloader" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>bootloader</span></a> because it is basically unmaintained...</p><p>...after all <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/syslinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>syslinux</span></a> <a href="https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/issues/10" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">wastes ~ 200kB of space</a>...</p><p>Now this is kind of a mess but I've to sort this out...</p><p>On the flipside I did build <code>mlb</code> so everyone can <a href="https://github.com/OS-1337/mlb/releases/tag/v0.0.1" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">just yoink it</a> for their minimalist distro needs...</p><p>*tho AFAIK this will only <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BIOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BIOS</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/boot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>boot</span></a> on i486 and up.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OS1337" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OS1337</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EmbeddedLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EmbeddedLinux</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Minimalist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Minimalist</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MinimalistDistro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MinimalistDistro</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MinimalistLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MinimalistLinux</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Development" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Development</span></a></p>