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Ross Gayler#rstats hivemind assistance request: How to structure a program to change the algebraic properties of an arithmetic calculation independent of the structure of the calculation?

screwlisp<a href="https://gamerplus.org/tags/programming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#programming</a> <a href="https://gamerplus.org/tags/objectOriented" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#objectOriented</a> <a href="https://gamerplus.org/tags/commonLisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#commonLisp</a> <a href="https://gamerplus.org/tags/engineering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#engineering</a> <a href="https://gamerplus.org/tags/ChineseChess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ChineseChess</a> <a href="https://screwlisp.small-web.org/common-lisp-interface-manager/chinese-chess-part-i-just-a-board/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://screwlisp.small-web.org/common-lisp-interface-manager/chinese-chess-part-i-just-a-board/</a>This is extracted from my rejected experience report for <a href="https://gamerplus.org/tags/ELS2025" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ELS2025</a> about a GUI chess app for a library club. I gradually build up from this part I mixins that result in substantively differently behaviours depending on where and what they get mixed into. <a href="https://gamerplus.org/tags/emacs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#emacs</a> <a href="https://gamerplus.org/tags/eev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#eev</a> of course.I am still alive!

Aral BalkanMay I just say so myself that I‘m loving playing with Kitten¹ to build Domain² (shown below) and Place³.¹ <a href="https://kitten.small-web.org" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://kitten.small-web.org</a> ² <a href="https://codeberg.org/domain/app" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://codeberg.org/domain/app</a> ³ <a href="https://codeberg.org/place/app" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://codeberg.org/place/app</a><a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/Kitten" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Kitten</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/Domain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Domain</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/Place" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Place</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/SmallWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SmallWeb</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/SmallTech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SmallTech</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/humanRights" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#humanRights</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/democracy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#democracy</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/technology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#technology</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/peerToPeer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#peerToPeer</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/peerToPeerWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#peerToPeerWeb</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/web" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#web</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/dev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#dev</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/JavaScript" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#JavaScript</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/HTML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#HTML</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/CSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CSS</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/NodeJS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NodeJS</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/htmx" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#htmx</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/WebSocket" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WebSocket</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/objectOriented" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#objectOriented</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/eventBased" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#eventBased</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/hypermedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hypermedia</a>

Aral BalkanLittle preview video: Kitten’s improved component model• Class-based page routes and components • Object-oriented • Event-based • Seamless hypermedia-driven WebSocket-based event mapping and interface updates (Streaming HTML) • A light server-side live component hierarchy with event bubbling • Almost as if you’re building a desktop or mobile app instead of a web app…… another authoring simplification made possible because on the Small Web – which is a peer-to-peer web – you build a web app/site as a tool for one person (the owner of the site/app) instead of as a tool for you to farm millions of people.… still experimental ;)<a href="https://vimeo.com/1049055406" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://vimeo.com/1049055406</a>Learn more about Kitten:<a href="https://kitten.small-web.org" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://kitten.small-web.org</a>If you like what you see and want us to keep existing, we could definitely use your support:<a href="https://small-tech.org/fund-us/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://small-tech.org/fund-us/</a>:kitten:💕<a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/Kitten" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Kitten</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/SmallWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SmallWeb</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/SmallTech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SmallTech</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/StreamingHTML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#StreamingHTML</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/objectOriented" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#objectOriented</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/eventBased" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#eventBased</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/hypermedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hypermedia</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/htmx" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#htmx</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/WebSocket" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WebSocket</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/HTML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#HTML</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/JavaScript" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#JavaScript</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/CSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CSS</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/NodeJS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NodeJS</a>

Aral BalkanPretty soon, you’re going to be able to view your live pages and the events on them in real time while developing Kitten apps.The improved component model with support for class-based routes (and a server-side component hiearchy that lets you build well-encapsulated components and pages and work in an event-driven way) is coming along nicely and I’m back to writing Place¹ using it.(In the GIF, you’re looking at Place’s profile settings page. Not shown here but those profile changes reflect in realtime on all open pages. The highlighted piece of code is what streams the event details to the browser.)¹ <a href="https://codeberg.org/place/app" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://codeberg.org/place/app</a><a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/Kitten" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Kitten</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/StreamingHTML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#StreamingHTML</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/SmallWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SmallWeb</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/htmx" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#htmx</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/hypermedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hypermedia</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/WebSockets" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WebSockets</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/web" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#web</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/dev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#dev</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/eventDriven" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#eventDriven</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/objectOriented" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#objectOriented</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/JavaScript" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#JavaScript</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/NodeJS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NodeJS</a>

OblomovI have a question for people with better theoretical background on <a href="https://sociale.network/tags/ObjectOriented" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ObjectOriented</a> <a href="https://sociale.network/tags/programming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#programming</a> and especially for <a href="https://sociale.network/tags/CPlusPlus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CPlusPlus</a> developers.<a href="https://sociale.network/tags/askFedi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#askFedi</a> <a href="https://sociale.network/tags/fediHelp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fediHelp</a> Is the following pattern known and does it have a name?I have a number of classes (call them C1, C2, etc) that all derive from the same class B. I have a superclass (template, actually) D that derives from C1, C2 etc. To have a single B, the standard solution is to go with virtual inheritance to close the diamond (so far, so good).1/n

IT NewsDon’t Object to Python Objects - There’s the old joke about 10 kinds of programmers, but the truth is when it comes... - <a href="https://hackaday.com/2024/05/02/dont-object-to-python-objects/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://hackaday.com/2024/05/02/dont-object-to-python-objects/</a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/softwaredevelopment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#softwaredevelopment</a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/objectoriented" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#objectoriented</a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/python" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#python</a>

The Last Psion | AlexWere there ever any languages other than <a href="https://bitbang.social/tags/ObjectiveC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ObjectiveC</a> that combined C with a message-sending object system/runtime? Doesn't have to be <a href="https://bitbang.social/tags/Smalltalk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Smalltalk</a>.<a href="https://bitbang.social/tags/oop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#oop</a> <a href="https://bitbang.social/tags/objectoriented" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#objectoriented</a>

GenghisKen CoarI'm kinda getting <a href="https://ruby.social/tags/Python" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Python</a> now, but not the rampant enthusiasm for it. AFAICS (and IMHO), <a href="https://ruby.social/tags/Ruby" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Ruby</a> is far superior in terms of <a href="https://ruby.social/tags/metaprogramming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#metaprogramming</a>, class vs instance scopes, and intuitively obvious object orientedness.Maybe it's just Python's ubiquity that keeps it so.. ubiquitous. 🤔<a href="https://ruby.social/tags/objectoriented" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#objectoriented</a> <a href="https://ruby.social/tags/oo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#oo</a>

Mark Gardner<a href="https://chirp.social/@Perl" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Perl</a> For those who haven’t been following <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@ovid" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ovid</a>’s <a href="https://social.sdf.org/tags/Corinna" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Corinna</a> project to bring modern effective <a href="https://social.sdf.org/tags/ObjectOriented" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ObjectOriented</a> <a href="https://social.sdf.org/tags/programming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#programming</a> to <a href="https://social.sdf.org/tags/Perl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Perl</a>, it’s coming this year with version 5.38’s experimental `class` feature.Release engineer <a href="https://social.semiotic.systems/@rjbs" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@rjbs</a> is collecting the release branch in <a href="https://github.com/Perl/perl5/pull/21108" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://github.com/Perl/perl5/pull/21108</a>; you can read the new `class` feature announcement at <a href="https://github.com/rjbs/perl5/blob/release-5.38.0/pod/perldelta.pod#new-class-feature" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://github.com/rjbs/perl5/blob/release-5.38.0/pod/perldelta.pod#new-class-feature</a>, check <a href="https://github.com/rjbs/perl5/blob/release-5.38.0/pod/perlclass.pod" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://github.com/rjbs/perl5/blob/release-5.38.0/pod/perlclass.pod</a> for a full reference, or dive deep into the internals at <a href="https://github.com/rjbs/perl5/blob/release-5.38.0/pod/perlclassguts.pod" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://github.com/rjbs/perl5/blob/release-5.38.0/pod/perlclassguts.pod</a>

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