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SciPunkIn Cyberpunk: Edgerunners (2022), a ragtag crew of edgerunners spends time braindancing at Lizzie's Bar, a popular spot in Night City. Braindances are immersive simulations that let users experience someone else's memories, including their physical sensations, emotions, and even thoughts.<br> <br> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/scifi?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#scifi</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/anime?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#anime</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/cybernetics?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#cybernetics</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/david?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#david</a> martinez <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/falco?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#falco</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/pilar?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#pilar</a>
Bryant McGill<p>Kybernetik Anthropology and The Colonial Architecture of Digital Intelligence</p><p>READ ARTICLE HERE:<br><a href="https://bryantmcgill.blogspot.com/2025/07/kybernetik-anthropology-colonial.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">bryantmcgill.blogspot.com/2025</span><span class="invisible">/07/kybernetik-anthropology-colonial.html</span></a></p><p>Nature Was the First Colonizer.</p><p>What we call <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/cybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cybernetics</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/transhumanism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>transhumanism</span></a> today? Nature already prototyped it through affordances.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Posthumanism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Posthumanism</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MediaTheory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MediaTheory</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Semiotics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Semiotics</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Sovereignty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Sovereignty</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Cybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cybernetics</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Symbolic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Symbolic</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Systems" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Systems</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Ethics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Ethics</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Linguistic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linguistic</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Colonization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Colonization</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Linguistics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linguistics</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LLM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LLM</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Anthropology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Anthropology</span></a></p>
hex<p><a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/NerdPing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NerdPing</span></a>: which of you weirdos are in to <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/cybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cybernetics</span></a> (in the sense of the field of study).</p><p>I've been reading Jon Walker's VSM guide and listening to General Intellect Unit and I keep finding valuable things.</p>
transform-social<p>I wrote down some reflections on the complex anarchism symposium I attended in May and the talk I gave there about anarcho-communist economics. The text covers discussions around the question of which concepts and tools should be discarded as too central or too dominant in the anarchist context and which structures and tools are required to adequately handle complex systems in a non-hierarchical way.</p><p><a href="https://transform-social.org/en/texts/complexity/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">transform-social.org/en/texts/</span><span class="invisible">complexity/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/Anarchism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Anarchism</span></a> <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/Economics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Economics</span></a> <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/ComplexSystems" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ComplexSystems</span></a> <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/Cybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cybernetics</span></a></p>
doboprobodyne<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@Di4na" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Di4na</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://eupolicy.social/@bert_hubert" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>bert_hubert</span></a></span> </p><p>Ahh, roger, thank you! That's a really useful explanation; yes, I see why slapOS in and of itself won't cut the mustard. Gosh, I can see why we need this capability from a strategic/geopolitical point of view. Indeed not just Europe; any competent government should want to make sure feedback-loops were set up so that they did not inadvertently lose "digital sovereignty" in such a manner here illustrated.</p><p><a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/capitalism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>capitalism</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/cybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cybernetics</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/controlTheory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>controlTheory</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/geopolitics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>geopolitics</span></a></p>
Katika Kühnreich<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/@tante" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>tante</span></a></span> <br>…and they are trying to bring back <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/nuclear" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>nuclear</span></a> with <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a> …</p><p>While <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/nuclearenergy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>nuclearenergy</span></a> is not <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/fossil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fossil</span></a> it not <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/green" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>green</span></a> at all - but <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/colonial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>colonial</span></a> , <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deadly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deadly</span></a> &amp; totally unfair because, like in AI, the <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/profits" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>profits</span></a> are being privatised, the costs are hitting the whole <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/society" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>society</span></a> &amp; the <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/planet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>planet</span></a></p><p>But from the point of view of someone believing in <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/cybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cybernetics</span></a> or one of its <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/TESCREAL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TESCREAL</span></a> grandchildren it is great - because in cybernetics EVERY problem will be solved in "the future" by "technology"</p>
🌈 breaking ranks. 🇺🇦<p>"The major problems in the world are the differences in how nature works and how people think."<br>-- Gregory Bateson</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Bateson" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_</span><span class="invisible">Bateson</span></a></p><p><a href="https://fnordon.de/tags/cybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cybernetics</span></a> <a href="https://fnordon.de/tags/systemicChange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>systemicChange</span></a></p>
doboprobodyne<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://vmst.io/@jalefkowit" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>jalefkowit</span></a></span> </p><p>It's an interesting point you highlight because I've never thought of things through that paradigm. Now that I see it, I realise I'm hoping to transition to <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/openBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>openBSD</span></a> because I believe of mainstream operating systems, it probably has the best <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/DX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DX</span></a>.</p><p>In this particular case, I believe that the developers exploit that in order to optimise for what might be called <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/security" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>security</span></a> which impresses me.</p><p>I realise it's probably an outlier in this regard!</p><p><a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/developerExperience" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>developerExperience</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/cybersecurity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cybersecurity</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/quality" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>quality</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/systemArchitecture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>systemArchitecture</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/cybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cybernetics</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/complexSystemsTheory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>complexSystemsTheory</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/qualityAssurance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>qualityAssurance</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Deming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Deming</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Shuart" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Shuart</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/design" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>design</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/software" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>software</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/coding" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>coding</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/softwareEngineering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>softwareEngineering</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/abstraction" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>abstraction</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/electricalEngineering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>electricalEngineering</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/HDL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HDL</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/VHDL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VHDL</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/theresNoSuchThingAsSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>theresNoSuchThingAsSoftware</span></a></p>
SciPunkBattle Angel Alita (1993)<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/battleangelalita?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#battleangelalita</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/90s?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#90s</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/cyberpunk?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#cyberpunk</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/anime?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#anime</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/1990s?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#1990s</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/scifi?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#scifi</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/cyborg?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#cyborg</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/gunnm?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#gunnm</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/cybernetics?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#cybernetics</a>
jonathankoren™<p>New <a href="https://sfba.social/tags/tarot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tarot</span></a> deck<br><a href="https://sfba.social/tags/cybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cybernetics</span></a> <a href="https://sfba.social/tags/weird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>weird</span></a></p>
SciPunkCyberpunk 2077 (2020)<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/cyberpunk2077?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#cyberpunk2077</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/cyberpunk?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#cyberpunk</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/scifi?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#scifi</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/videogames?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#videogames</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/glitch?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#glitch</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/aesthetic?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#aesthetic</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/futuristic?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#futuristic</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/piano?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#piano</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/cp2077?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#cp2077</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/cp77?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#cp77</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/johnnysilverhand?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#johnnysilverhand</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/keanureeves?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#keanureeves</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/cybernetics?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#cybernetics</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/hanakoarasaka?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hanakoarasaka</a>
SciPunkHardware AKA MARK 13 (1990)<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/hardware?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hardware</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/90s?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#90s</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/cyberpunk?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#cyberpunk</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/aesthetic?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#aesthetic</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/1990s?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#1990s</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/scifi?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#scifi</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/movies?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#movies</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/vaporwave?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#vaporwave</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/dystopianfuture?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#dystopianfuture</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/retrofuture?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#retrofuture</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/computers?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#computers</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/robotics?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#robotics</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/machinery?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#machinery</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/cybernetics?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#cybernetics</a>
SciPunkCyberpunk: Edgerunners (2022) <br> <br> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/cyberpunkedgerunners?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#cyberpunkedgerunners</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/cyberpunk?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#cyberpunk</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/anime?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#anime</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/scifi?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#scifi</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/cybernetics?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#cybernetics</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/aesthetic?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#aesthetic</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/hacking?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hacking</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/hackers?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hackers</a>
Kinoc-Kayfar ΘΔ⌛Politics
doboprobodyne<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@glyph" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>glyph</span></a></span> <br>I hear you.</p><p>My favourite (perhaps less jarring?) example is when a court declares they have found someone guilty, and that their threshold of guilt is "on balance of odds".</p><p>I look at the lawyers and the witnesses and realise that none of them has studied actuarial or probability mathematics. I wouldn't even trust them to understand a bet on the horses. For a scientist to watch them is like observing a cargo cult. Worse, I am sure, is for a scientist to find themselves on the receiving end of such a court.</p><p>I would offer the meagre consolation that you can see the feedback loops that drive them to behave so, where they think themselves to have free will.</p><p><a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/cybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cybernetics</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/actuarial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>actuarial</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/odds" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>odds</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/maths" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>maths</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/math" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>math</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/statistics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>statistics</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/science" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>science</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/scientificInquiry" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>scientificInquiry</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/systemsArchitecture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>systemsArchitecture</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/justice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>justice</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/policing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>policing</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/cargoCult" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cargoCult</span></a></p>
Karsten Schmidt<p>To all who’re criticizing itself the mounting criticism of LLMs and who'd rather like to emphasize these models can also be used for good:</p><p>POSIWID (aka The Purpose Of a System Is What It Does) is very much applicable here, i.e. there is “no point in claiming that the purpose of a system is to do what it constantly fails to do”.[1]</p><p>For the moment (and I don’t detect _any_ signs of this changing), LLMs conceptually and the way they’re handled technologically/politically, are harmful, more than anything, regardless of other potential/actual use cases. In a non-capitalist, solarpunk timeline this all might look very different, but we’re _absolutely not_ in that world. It’s simply ignorant and impossible to only consider LLM benefits anecdotally or abstractly, detached from their implementation, their infrastructure required for training, the greed, the abuse, the waste of resources (and resulting conflicts), the inflation, disinformation, and tangible threats (with already real impacts) to climate, energy, rights, democracy, society, life etc. These aren't hypotheticals — not anymore!</p><p>A basic cost-benefit analysis:</p><p>In your eyes, are the benefits of LLMs worth these above costs?<br>Could these benefits &amp; time savings have been achieved in other ways?<br>Do you truly believe a “democratization of skills” is achievable via the hyper-centralization of resources, whilst actively harvesting and then removing the livelihood and rights of entire demographics?<br>You’re feeling so very productive with your copilot subscription, how about funding FLOSS projects instead and help building sustainable/supportive communities?<br>How about investing $500 billions into education/science/arts?</p><p>Cybernetics was all about feedback loops, recursion, considering the effects of a system and studying their influence on subsequent actions/iterations. Technologists (incl. my younger self) have made the mistake/choice ignoring tech’s impact in the world for far too long. For this field to truly move forward and become more holistic, empathetic and ethical, it _must_ stop treating the above aspects as distracting inconvenient truths and start addressing them head on, start considering secondary and tertiary effects of our actions, and use those to guide us! Neglecting or actively denying their importance and the more-than-fair criticism without ever being able to produce equally important counter examples/reasons just make us look ignorant of the larger picture... Same goes for education/educators in related disciplines!</p><p>Nothing about LLMs is inevitable per se. There’s always a decision and for each decision we have to ask who’s behind it, for what purposes, who stands to benefit and where do we stand with these. Sure, like any other tech, LLMs are “just a tool”, unbiased in theory, usable for both positive and negative purposes. But, we’ve got to ask ourselves at which point a “tool” has attracted &amp; absorbed a primary purpose/form as a weapon (incl. usage in a class war), and any other humanist aspects have become mere nice-to-have side effects, great for greenwashing, and — for some — surfing the hype curve, while it lasts. We’ve got to ask at which point LLMs currently are on this spectrum and in which direction they’re actively accelerating (are being accelerated)...</p><p>(Ps. Like many others, for many years I’ve been fascinated by, building and using AI/ML techniques in many projects. I started losing interest shortly after the introduction of GANs and the non-stop demand for exponentially increasing hardware resources and obvious ways how this tech will be used in ever more damaging ways... So my criticism isn’t against AI as general field of research, but about what is currently sold as AI and how it’s being pushed onto us, for reasons which actually have not much to do with AI itself, other than being a powerful excuse/lever for enabling empire building efforts and possible societal upheavals...)</p><p>[1] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_purpose_of_a_system_is_what_it_does" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_purp</span><span class="invisible">ose_of_a_system_is_what_it_does</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/LLM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LLM</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/Cybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cybernetics</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/NoteToSelf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NoteToSelf</span></a></p>
ned haughton<p>Whoa.. I've heard the word cybernetics before, but never really clocked what it meant. Now I think I might be working in the field of cybernetics, and .. damn, that's just *cool*.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybernetics" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybernet</span><span class="invisible">ics</span></a></p><p><a href="https://fediscience.org/tags/cybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cybernetics</span></a></p>
MR.e<p>I need to be clear that my <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/math" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>math</span></a> skills are embarrassingly limited and something I've always struggled with as an <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ADD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ADD</span></a> and dyslexic person. Going through school, subject after subject was presented as, "Now memorize this because you have to." Which was not very compelling without the context of what it can really be used for. I tried, I got high marks, but I wasn't included in the better classes with better teachers which created a cycle of disinterest. </p><p>As I read, "Dark hero of the information age : in search of Norbert Wiener, the father of cybernetics" which tells the stories of how mathematics, biology, electrical engineering, electronic engineering, and computing were brought together to holistically in the 1940s to examine problems that span subject matter, it makes me want to go back and restart my mathematics journey looking at the contextual challenges those solutions were applied to. I think I could probably overcome many of my limitations by taking a different learning route. </p><p><strong>Does anyone have other interesting books on mathematicians or resources that can build up math skills with independent study? Are there corners of the <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fediverse</span></a> that I can look at?</strong> I would appreciate recommendations. </p><p>I don't ever expect to be very good, but I would like to challenge myself to be more mathematically capable if I take the time to learn more behind the equations themselves. </p><p><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/dyslexia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>dyslexia</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/mathematics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mathematics</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/cybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cybernetics</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/books" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>books</span></a></p>
vga256<p>i'm rehydrating my 20 year old readings on cybernetics, with some history i didn't know of back then. </p><p>TIL stafford beer and dozens of chilean programmers and engineers built a cybernetic economy simulation computer and software, designed to help coordinate/plan Chile's manufacturing sector and economy in 1975. it ran custom software on an IBM 360, which collected data from 500 telex machines, operated by factory employees.</p><p>the control room, designed by gui bonsiepe, is a modernist wonder to behold (this illustration is uncredited)</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_</span><span class="invisible">Cybersyn</span></a></p><p><a href="https://dialup.cafe/tags/cybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cybernetics</span></a> <a href="https://dialup.cafe/tags/history" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>history</span></a> <a href="https://dialup.cafe/tags/chile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>chile</span></a></p>
Bruce Sterling @bruces<p>*Machine translation efforts circa 1960. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/network" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>network</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/cybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cybernetics</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/primevalAI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>primevalAI</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/languagemodels" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>languagemodels</span></a></p>
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