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Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://flx.masto.host/@bosak" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>bosak</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://carhenge.club/@skiles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>skiles</span></a></span></p><p>&gt;&gt; Twenty-five years ago I was part of an effort… to develop a standard environment for the exchange of business documents called <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ebXML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ebXML</span></a>. It was an open-standards internet follow-on to <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EDI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EDI</span></a>. … an environment in which all the actual business transactions were between machines, without the need for human…</p><p>Then, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://w3c.social/@timbl" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>timbl</span></a></span> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/W3C" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>W3C</span></a> invented the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SemanticWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SemanticWeb</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OWL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OWL</span></a> reasoners, which I can't help but see as a precursor to the current AI push, and a continuation of that way of thinking</p>
:rss: CNET Japan 最新情報 総合<p>AIは誰の利益を優先しているのか--ウェブの父が投げかける根本的な問い<br><a href="https://japan.cnet.com/article/35230461/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">japan.cnet.com/article/3523046</span><span class="invisible">1/</span></a><br><a href="https://rss-mstdn.studiofreesia.com/tags/japan_cnet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>japan_cnet</span></a> <a href="https://rss-mstdn.studiofreesia.com/tags/Tim_Berners_Lee" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tim_Berners_Lee</span></a> <a href="https://rss-mstdn.studiofreesia.com/tags/WWW" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WWW</span></a> <a href="https://rss-mstdn.studiofreesia.com/tags/W3C" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>W3C</span></a></p>
Tantek Çelik<p>Something I wrote in the W3C Authentic Web Mini Workshop’s Zoom chat:<br><br><br>Another implicit assumption (flaw) that is often a part of "purely technical solutions" is the neglect or ignorance (innocent naïveté) of existing technical solutions.<br> <br>A technical proposal should not be praised for what it claims to solve.<br> <br>A technical proposal must be evaluated by what marginal difference or advantage does it provide over existing technologies.<br> <br>Any technical proposal that ignores prior technologies is itself doomed to be ignored by the next technical proposal.<br><br><br>In addition to the slide presentations (links to come) in the mini workshop and Zoom verbal discussion which was minuted (link to come), there was a lot of very interesting discussion in the Zoom chat, which was not minuted. Sometimes such quick back &amp; forth can help inspire summarizing of points which one had not previously written down. <br><br>I was encouraged by a fellow workshop participant to blog this one so here it is!<br><br><a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/W3C" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">W3C</span></a> <a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/credweb" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">credweb</span></a> <a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/credibleWeb" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">credibleWeb</span></a> <a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/authenticWeb" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">authenticWeb</span></a> <a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/technology" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">technology</span></a> <a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/technical" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">technical</span></a> <a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/proposal" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">proposal</span></a> <a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/technicalProposal" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">technicalProposal</span></a> <a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/history" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">history</span></a></p>
Tantek Çelik<p>I just participated in the first W3C Authentic Web Mini Workshop<a href="https://tantek.com/2025/071/t1/w3c-authentic-web-workshop-flaws#t5az1_note-1" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">¹</a> hosted by the Credible Web Community Group<a href="https://tantek.com/2025/071/t1/w3c-authentic-web-workshop-flaws#t5az1_note-2" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">²</a> (of which I’m a longtime member) and up front I noted that our very discussion itself needed to be careful about its own credibility, extra critical of any technologies discussed or assertions made, and initially identified two flaws to avoid on a meta level, having seen them occur many times in technical or standards discussions:<br><br>1. Politician’s Syllogism — "Something must be done about this problem. Here is something, let's do it!"<br><br>2. Solutions Looking For Problems — "I am interested in how tech X can solve problem Y"<br><br>After some back and forth and arguments in the Zoom chat, I observed participants questioning speakers of arguments rather than the arguments themselves, so I had to identify a third fallacy to avoid:<br><br>3. Ad Hominem — while obvious examples are name-calling (which is usually against codes of conduct), less obvious examples (witnessed in the meeting) include questioning a speaker’s education (or lack thereof) like what they have or have not read, or would benefit from reading.<br><br>I am blogging these here both as a reminder (should you choose to participate in such discussions), and as a resource to cite in future discussions.<br><br>We need to all develop expertise in recognizing these logical and methodological flaws &amp; fallacies, and call them out when we see them, especially when used against others. <br><br>We need to promptly prune these flawed methods of discussion, so we can focus on actual productive, relevant, and yes, credible discussions.<br><br><a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/W3C" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">W3C</span></a> <a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/credweb" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">credweb</span></a> <a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/credibleWeb" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">credibleWeb</span></a> <a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/authenticWeb" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">authenticWeb</span></a> <a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/flaw" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">flaw</span></a> <a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/fallacy" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">fallacy</span></a> <a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/fallacies" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">fallacies</span></a> <a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/logicalFallacy" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">logicalFallacy</span></a> <a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/logicalFallacies" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">logicalFallacies</span></a><br><br><br>Glossary<br><br>Ad Hominem<br>&nbsp; attacking an attribute of the person making an argument rather than the argument itself<br>&nbsp; <a class="" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem</a><br><br>Politician's syllogism<br>&nbsp; <a class="" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politician%27s_syllogism" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politician%27s_syllogism</a><br><br>Solutions Looking For Problems (related: <a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/solutionism" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">solutionism</span></a>, <a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/solutioneering" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">solutioneering</span></a>)<br>&nbsp; Promoting a technology that either has not identified a real problem for it to solve, or actively pitching a specific technology to any problem that seems related. Wikipedia has no page on this but has two related pages: <br>&nbsp; * <a class="" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_instrument" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_instrument</a><br>&nbsp; * <a class="" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_fix" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_fix</a><br>&nbsp; Wikipedia does have an essay on this specific to Wikipedia:<br>&nbsp; * <a class="" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Solutions_looking_for_a_problem" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Solutions_looking_for_a_problem</a><br>&nbsp; Stack Exchange has a thread on "solution in search of a problem":<br>&nbsp; * <a class="" href="https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/250320/a-word-that-means-a-solution-in-search-of-a-problem" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/250320/a-word-that-means-a-solution-in-search-of-a-problem</a> <br>&nbsp; Forbes has an illustrative anecdote: &nbsp;<br>&nbsp; * <a class="" href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephanieburns/2019/05/28/solution-looking-for-a-problem/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephanieburns/2019/05/28/solution-looking-for-a-problem/</a><br><br><br>References<br><br><a href="https://tantek.com/2025/071/t1/w3c-authentic-web-workshop-flaws#t5az1_ref-1" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">¹</a> <a class="" href="https://www.w3.org/events/workshops/2025/authentic-web-workshop/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.w3.org/events/workshops/2025/authentic-web-workshop/</a><br><a href="https://tantek.com/2025/071/t1/w3c-authentic-web-workshop-flaws#t5az1_ref-2" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">²</a> <a class="" href="https://credweb.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://credweb.org/</a> and <a class="" href="https://www.w3.org/community/credibility/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.w3.org/community/credibility/</a><br><br><br>Previously in 2019 I participated in <a class="" href="https://indieweb.social/tags/MisinfoCon:" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span class="p-category">MisinfoCon:</span></a> <br>* <a class="" href="https://tantek.com/2019/296/t1/london-misinfocon-discuss-spectrum-recency" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tantek.com/2019/296/t1/london-misinfocon-discuss-spectrum-recency</a><br>* <a class="" href="https://tantek.com/2019/296/t2/misinfocon-roundtable-spectrums-misinformation" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tantek.com/2019/296/t2/misinfocon-roundtable-spectrums-misinformation</a></p>
Fynn Ellie Becker<p>With WAI and WCAG the <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://w3c.social/@w3c" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>w3c</span></a></span> is arguably one of the biggest accessibility rights advocates out there.</p><p>W3C is also incorporated in the USA which seeks to abolish accessibility programs.</p><p>Asking the inconvenient questions:</p><p>Is W3C safe from Trump’s and Musk’s thug gangs currently overtaking the US government?</p><p>Is it time to consider moving the W3C to a less fascist place? I’ve heard the EU is still kinda ok. You might even consider going “true neutral” in Switzerland.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/W3C" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>W3C</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WCAG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WCAG</span></a></p>
Mia (web luddite)<p>Since 2009, I've been contributing to open web tools &amp; standards,&nbsp;with a focus on CSS and related platform features at the W3C. But that work takes resources, making it hard for independent contributors like us <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://front-end.social/@OddBird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>OddBird</span></a></span> to stay involved.</p><p>We need support. If you appreciate what we're doing, you (or your company) can sponsor our work directly:</p><p><a href="https://opencollective.com/oddbird-open-source" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">opencollective.com/oddbird-ope</span><span class="invisible">n-source</span></a></p><p>Let's keep building an open web for everyone.</p><p><a href="https://front-end.social/tags/w3c" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>w3c</span></a> <a href="https://front-end.social/tags/css" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>css</span></a></p>
Thor A. Hopland<p>As you see there is plurality, but there is nothing easy about building a web engine. </p><p>Rendering HTML via DOM, implementing JS parsing, all the modern <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/JS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JS</span></a> standards, the <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/HTTPS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HTTPS</span></a> protocol, every <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/W3C" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>W3C</span></a> standard that hasn't been deprecated. It's a big, big task to build something like this.</p><p>Shout outs to <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/Ladybird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Ladybird</span></a>. That slipped my mind completely, a bottom up rewrite - which is insane.</p><p>In any case, there are engines a plenty...</p><p>So why not build a browser?</p>

#iStatMenu で有名な #bjango#Pinwheel というアプリ良さそう。

bjango.com/mac/pinwheel/

カラートークンみたいなものを生成・管理することができるんだけど、色の濃淡をイージングパスみたいなグラフィカルな UI で作成できて、コントラストのアクセシビリティチェックもできる(これができる単体アプリ探してた)

あと、 #W3C のコミュニティーグループがドラフトを検討してるデザイントークンのオープンなフォーマット #DesignTokensJSON のインポート・エクスポートにも対応してる。

さっそく試用中 :tony_normal:

tr.designtokens.org/format/

BjangoPinwheelDesign systems and accessibility testing.
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Other than that.. I started calling current AS/AP fedi the "as soon as possible" fediverse, where necessarily early app implementations served as the de-facto reference implementations for the #W3C #ActivityStreams and #ActivityPub open standards.

At serious cost: Ever increasing #ProtocolDecay and subsequent #WhackaMoleAdoption i.e. retaining app-by-app interop pipes against moving release targets.

When is Video domain getting standardized? That's my question.

It does not matter so much if it is #SOLID or #ActivityPub or both or any.

But the Vision matters most in these dark times

„The Vision of a new World“ by @timbl

„That said, there is clearly a massive revolution taking place, and a huge amount of value being created. That value is primarily for individuals who are have obstacles of today;s world they may have taken for granted being removed, and new power to granted. But then immediately individuals use that power to make and work in communities oof all scales, from pairs through groups to nation-sized movements.“

w3.org/DesignIssues/Vision.htm

www.w3.orgVision of a new World - Design Issues

With any luck, we now have weekly activity reports from Github to the public-swicg mailing list, as to keep everyone in the loop on the activity on ActivityPub and ActivityStreams:

lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/p

There's some sort of delay happening with the test runs of this email, but hopefully they'll show up soon. This should help increase visibility into what's happening.

lists.w3.orgWeekly GitHub Summaries from Emelia S. on 2025-01-13 (public-swicg@w3.org from January 2025)

"The only #Neutrality that #Aaron supported was #NetNeutrality, prioritizing those who use the Internet over those that build & serve it, a priority of constituencies strongly aligned with the #W3C's official #WebEthicalPrinciples."

RE: fed.brid.gy/r/https://tantek.c

fed.brid.gyremembering losing #aaronsw twelve years ago today, and drawing connections with: * Lawrence Lessig’s https://lessig.tumblr.com/post/56888930628/on-the-emptiness-in-the-concept-of-neutrality * Ben Werdmüller’s https://werd.io/2025/building-an-open-web-that-protects-us-from-harm Two points of connection: 1. Neutrality in ethical or policy matters is insufficient, empty, and cowardly. Especially when you know better, neutrality in action is not ethical, it is negligent and wrong, like a lie of omission. “Allyship demands more than neutrality — it demands action.” — @werd.io (@ben@werd.social) “… there are obviously plenty of contexts in which to be ‘neutral’ is simply to be wrong. ” @lessig.org (@lessig.tumblr.com @lessig@mastodon.world @lessig) 2. Building community for collective action is required for resilient resistance Aaron helped inspire and drive numerous acts of resistance against foes better funded and connected, many acts which succeeded to some degree or completely such as preventing the passage of SOPA.^1 Similarly he built community for collective action, such as co-founding the Progressive Change Campaign Committee and the Demand Progress political advocacy group^2 which remain active to this day. One of the best ways to honor Aaron’s memory is to build on the good examples he set that succeeded and continue to succeed. The only neutrality that Aaron supported was net neutrality, prioritizing those that use the internet over those that build & serve it, a priority of constituencies strongly aligned with the W3C’s official Ethical Web Principles.^3 If you too reject neutrality and instead embrace allyship & action, some of those actions will require resisting the status quo with the intent of changing it. If resistance with the goal of actual change is your primary objective (rather than recognition), build community to bring about that change, resist collectively not alone, both in the near term, and sustainably into the future. Still miss you Aaron. Previously: * https://tantek.com/2024/013/t1/remembering-aaronsw-eleven-years (links to prior posts) ^1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz#Opposition_to_the_Stop_Online_Piracy_Act_(SOPA) ^2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz#Progressive_Change_Campaign_Committee ^3 https://www.w3.org/TR/ethical-web-principles/#noharm - Tantek

🌐 So excited to continue participating in the W3C—shaping the future of the web through collaboration and advocacy, especially now I’m also an invited expert to the Privacy Working Group. But this work requires resources, and I need your support to continue!
💡 Donate to my W3C Participation Project to directly support efforts to ensure web standards work for everyone.
opencollective.com/lolas-lab/p
Let’s build a better web together. ❤️#OpenWeb #WebStandards #W3C

opencollective.comW3C Web Standards Participation - Open CollectiveI am currently an invited expert to both the ARIA Working Group and Privacy Working Group, as well as member of the Web DX & Security Web Application Guidelines Community Groups. I’d like to fundraise for my participation in standards.

For the first time in several years I've updated the XTXT project. Hopefully more will follow sometime soon.

github.com/ha1tch/xtxt/tree/ma

XTXT is a simple yet powerful format that addresses many challenges in modern data representation. Its ability to separate content, metadata, and structure into independent streams makes it a strong candidate for diverse applications, from hypertext systems to programming tools and cloud workflows.

GitHubxtxt/intro at main · ha1tch/xtxtContribute to ha1tch/xtxt development by creating an account on GitHub.
#xtxt#txt#hypertext