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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>fuchsiii</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@blinry" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>blinry</span></a></span> I guess you want to get some more <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a>-enabled <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Keyboards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Keyboards</span></a> then...</p><p><a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii/114696207252409107" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii/1146962</span><span class="invisible">07252409107</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@fedora" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>fedora</span></a></span> Sadly, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lenovo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Lenovo</span></a> wronged me as a professional when they refused to support their <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuCertified" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UbuntuCertified</span></a>"</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkPad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkPad</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/P15v" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>P15v</span></a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WWAN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WWAN</span></a> module ( <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fibocom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Fibocom</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/850GL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>850GL</span></a>, based on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Intel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Intel</span></a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMM7360" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMM7360</span></a> baseband).</p><ul><li>And that was a €3,5k+ professional device!</li></ul><p>Add to that the discontinuation of any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/wired" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>wired</span></a> - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>USB</span></a> "ThinkPad Compact Keyboard with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a>" and the only reason I've not retired my <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/X230Tablet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>X230Tablet</span></a> for a <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework13" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Framework13</span></a> or god forbid some <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DIY" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DIY</span></a> <a href="https://github.com/KBtechnologies/nucbook" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">abomination</a> is my belief in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UseLonger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UseLonger</span></a>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkPhone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkPhone</span></a>: 1* - does not come with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a>! </p><p><a href="https://www.ebay.de/itm/226555463338" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">ebay.de/itm/226555463338</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sarcasm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sarcasm</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/shitpost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>shitpost</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tech</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Smartphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Smartphone</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Enshittification</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkPad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkPad</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Motorola" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Motorola</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://labyrinth.zone/users/mjdxp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>mjdxp</span></a></span> yeah - my <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BigChungus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BigChungus</span></a> misses a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TrackPoint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TrackPoint</span></a>, and I'll certainly <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx4D5n6MOwo" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">need one too</a> as I literally can't work without an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a>-Style setup anymore!</p><ul><li>Granted <em>"The Message"</em> is that one's not forced to cram shit on a tiny desk but can afford a 100% Keyboard and mouse next to it!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://eigenmagic.net/@arichtman" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>arichtman</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://stefanbohacek.online/@discontinued" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>discontinued</span></a></span> people still <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mod" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mod</span></a> the shit out of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iPod" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>iPod</span></a>|s to this day...</p><p>Personally, I want some device like that again...</p><p>Maybe make it the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkPod" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkPod</span></a> with a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a>-Style <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trackpoint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trackpoint</span></a> instead and out of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Thinkpadnium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Thinkpadnium</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nokiante" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Nokiante</span></a> plastic, coz <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkPad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkPad</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nokia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Nokia</span></a> are the most durable materials once known!</p><p>Source: <a href="https://hexbear.net/post/182319" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">hexbear.net/post/182319</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> , not <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://bitbang.social/@NanoRaptor" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>NanoRaptor</span></a></span></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://limepeeps.perchinup.top/@radmin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>radmin</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://wetdry.world/@tera" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>tera</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://wetdry.world/@critakitty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>critakitty</span></a></span> yeah, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> refusing to make a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TrackPoint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TrackPoint</span></a> keyboard is kinda sad.</p><ul><li>Cuz it's not as if they can't make a call at <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sprintek" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Sprintek</span></a> and maybe even get a custom-coloured rubber cap just to avoid <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lenovo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Lenovo</span></a> claiming they violate the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a> design / trademark.</li></ul><p>Not to mention this isn't unique to even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkPad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkPad</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>hp</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ProBook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ProBook</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Dell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Dell</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Latitude" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Latitude</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Getac" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Getac</span></a> devices, but even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Sony</span></a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Vaio" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Vaio</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/P11Z" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>P11Z</span></a>) and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GPD</span></a> did so...</p><ul><li>I hope they at least got a holder-hole and lanyard loop option for the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Stylus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Stylus</span></a> like the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/X230Tablet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>X230Tablet</span></a> has...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>The only things <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> could do better on the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework13" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Framework13</span></a> would be a toolfree-swappable battery (not feasible with current case design) and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trackpoint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trackpoint</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Keyboard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Keyboard</span></a> combo and mere 3 buttons instead of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Touchpad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Touchpad</span></a> (totally feasible)...</p><ul><li>Cuz I need an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a>-style Trackpoint and can't bear a Touchpad!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hessen.social/@ustralien" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ustralien</span></a></span> So yeah I am sad that <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> didn't work out a deal with like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sprintek" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Sprintek</span></a> to get a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trackpoint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trackpoint</span></a> into the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a> and I'm pissed that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lenovo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Lenovo</span></a> discontinued their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkPad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkPad</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TrackPoint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TrackPoint</span></a> Keyboard for a <em><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcjEWuk1nig" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">new</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/enshittified" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>enshittified</span></a> version</em> that cost double the price of the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Bluetooth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Bluetooth</span></a> and triple the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/wired" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>wired</span></a> version <em>before</em> and is <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WirelessOnly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WirelessOnly</span></a> aka. can't even be used via <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>USB</span></a> without a shitty <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/dongle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>dongle</span></a>, making it basically impossible for me to use.</p><ul><li>So I've got to build the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NUCbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NUCbook</span></a> with a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CHONKY" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CHONKY</span></a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx4D5n6MOwo" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Keyboard</a> to have an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a>-Style Trackpoint! </li></ul><p>Needless to say I'd still see <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Framework</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fairphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Fairphone</span></a> as the only options on the market right now <em>if I had to buy stuff that is available right now</em>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hessen.social/@ustralien" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ustralien</span></a></span> Sadly no, and that's my big disappointment!</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> decided to choose the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Apple</span></a>-esque <em>"flat cells below <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/trackpad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>trackpad</span></a>"</em> design in the <em>unreasonable <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/THINN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>THINN</span></a>-ness race</em> instead of doing what even the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EeePC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EeePC</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Sony</span></a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Vaio" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Vaio</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/P11Z" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>P11Z</span></a> did and have a slot at the back to chug in batteries!</p><ul><li>I know <em>why</em> they did it, as a closed aluminium pan aka. <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/lunchbox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>lunchbox</span></a>"</em> design is easier to fabricate, but I'd rather some <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ToolfreeSwappableBattery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ToolfreeSwappableBattery</span></a> which are IMHO of more practicality than having the ability to swap out every port.</li></ul><p>Not that I don't like those <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/modules" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>modules</span></a>, but I'd rather wish for a <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/THICC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>THICC</span></a>-er"</em> device if that gets me essentials like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Ethernet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Ethernet</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>USB</span></a>-A &amp; -C as well as a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TRRS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TRRS</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HeadphoneJack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HeadphoneJack</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HeadsetJack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HeadsetJack</span></a>. </p><ul><li>I mean, I understand they won't make space for a underslung <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Dock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Dock</span></a>, a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Slimline" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Slimline</span></a> - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ODD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ODD</span></a> or god forbid <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ExpressCard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ExpressCard</span></a>, and in terms of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tech</span></a> I'd welcome <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Thunderbolt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Thunderbolt</span></a> over <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OCuLink" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OCuLink</span></a>, but there's a reason I've not canceled the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NUCbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NUCbook</span></a> and if I didn't have to buy/procure <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/COTS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>COTS</span></a> products I'd likely just buy a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Pi500" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Pi500</span></a> with a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Powerbank" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Powerbank</span></a> and screen slapped on...</li></ul><p>That being said the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Framework</span></a> is still by a long margin the <em>"least <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/enshittified" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>enshittified</span></a>"</em> device on the market, and same goes for the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fairphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Fairphone</span></a> devices...</p><ul><li>I just wished <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a> and Fairphone were just refusing the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Enshittification</span></a> trend entirely, cuz I'd rather have a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Toughbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Toughbook</span></a>-Style device made out of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Thinkpadnium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Thinkpadnium</span></a> or even better <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nokianite" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Nokianite</span></a> than some fancy Aluminium stuff if that makes it more <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/repairable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>repairable</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/upradeable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>upradeable</span></a> and espechally doesn't result in a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Downgrade" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Downgrade</span></a>. </li></ul><p>Not to mention they don't have an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a>-Style <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trackpoint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trackpoint</span></a> and I do <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9ya4dUZfTQ&amp;t=36s" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">use</a> that instead of a Trackpad.</p><ul><li>The only reason I'm not daily driving my <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/P11Z" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>P11Z</span></a> anymore is because until I got <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>OS1337</span></a></span> into a useable state it's hardware, which was already <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LowEnd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LowEnd</span></a> at launch, can barely run <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://linuxrocks.online/@bunsenlabs" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>bunsenlabs</span></a></span> and thus is not an option for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DailyDriving" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DailyDriving</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Desktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Desktop</span></a> workflows anyways...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mas.to/@deallocated" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>deallocated</span></a></span> no, it doesn't have an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a>!<br><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gb6x_duVXE" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=7gb6x_duVX</span><span class="invisible">E</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://linh.social/@qlp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>qlp</span></a></span> personally, I wished <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> would give <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SprinTek" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SprinTek</span></a> a call and get themselves some <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TrackPoint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TrackPoint</span></a> instead of the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TrackPad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TrackPad</span></a> as an option.</p><ul><li>IDK maybe make it green or pink so neither <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lenovo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Lenovo</span></a> (red) nor <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>hp</span></a> (black) nor <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Dell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Dell</span></a> (blue) nor <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Getac" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Getac</span></a> (orange) nor <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Sony</span></a> (gray) can complain.</li></ul><p>They can't call it <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a> either but what about <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SmolNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SmolNav</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ProNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ProNav</span></a> or something. </p><ul><li>Worst-case they'd have to make a <em>"T H I C C" Edition</em> with a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Perixx" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Perixx</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trackball" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trackball</span></a> instead.</li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trackpoints" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trackpoints</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trackballs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trackballs</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>fuchsiii</span></a></span> yeah, Lenovo didn't let you buy the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkPad25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkPad25</span></a> when you were like <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney</span></a>!"</em>...</p><p>I hope <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> will make a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trackpoint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trackpoint</span></a> + Keyboard top cover for the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework13" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Framework13</span></a> because that would be the final nail that would get me to retire my <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/X230Tablet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>X230Tablet</span></a>...</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkPad25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkPad25</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkPad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkPad</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lenovo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Lenovo</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Laptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Laptop</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Feamework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Feamework</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework13" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Framework13</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trackpoint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trackpoint</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://darmstadt.social/@claudius" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>claudius</span></a></span> personally, I wished <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> had partnered with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sprintek" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Sprintek</span></a> to deliver basically the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkPad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkPad</span></a> Keyboard with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a>-Style <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trackpoint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trackpoint</span></a> because I do use that all the time!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hollow.raccoon.quest/@dushman" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>dushman</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hollow.raccoon.quest/@raccoon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>raccoon</span></a></span> lucky you then...</p><p>Mostly heard of the deathadders dying.</p><p>I have a Sharkoon Fireglider and otherwise can recommend the Microsoft 4500 and Logitech M90.</p><p>In fact, the Logitech MK120 is the go-to-kit I recommend normies...</p><ul><li>Unless they specifically demand something different, like a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjp8Xw3oGaQ" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">100% Board</a> or something with <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx4D5n6MOwo" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Trackpoint</a> cuz Lenovo fucked up and canceled the Compact Keyboard with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a> (USB) in lieu of a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/wireless" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>wireless</span></a>-only <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcjEWuk1nig" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">variant</a> that costs 2x as much as the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Bluetooth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Bluetooth</span></a> predecessor and 3x as much as the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/wired" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>wired</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>USB</span></a> predecessor...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://digipres.club/@foone" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>foone</span></a></span> <em>Patrick Star Voice:</em> "Is using an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a>-Style <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TrackPoint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TrackPoint</span></a> a <em>novelty Keyboard</em>?"</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oldbytes.space/@TopazRabbit" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>TopazRabbit</span></a></span> now I woshed <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> would offer a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trackpoint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trackpoint</span></a> - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Keyboard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Keyboard</span></a> like the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a> on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lenovo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Lenovo</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkPad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkPad</span></a>|s...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a>-Style <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trackpoint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trackpoint</span></a> - when?</p><p>I'm shure the folks at <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sprintek" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Sprintek</span></a> can build it...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@sabi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>sabi</span></a></span> Interesting...</p><p>Personally, I'd rather want a Keyboard with 24 F-Keys, 12 PF-Keys and a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a>-Style <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trackpoint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trackpoint</span></a> instead if a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CopilotKey" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CopilotKey</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trackpad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trackpad</span></a>...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.arunmozhi.in/@tecoholic" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>tecoholic</span></a></span> The big disadvantage besides soldered-down RAM is that the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IdeaPad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IdeaPad</span></a> series is even worse in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/quality" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>quality</span></a> with some boards having so little support that they crack through the mainboard!</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lenovo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Lenovo</span></a> really nosedived in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/quality" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>quality</span></a> and sadly they also <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/enshittified" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>enshittified</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkPads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkPads</span></a> too, so it's not as if the $1k premium is giving you a better experience...</li></ul><p>Personally, I just need my <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a>-style <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PointingStick" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PointingStick</span></a> and I'd never want a computer without it.</p><ul><li>Yes I am the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhAJKW_bhH4" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">kind of weirdo</a> who even uses it on a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/desktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>desktop</span></a> and I'll likely have to buy something expensive from <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx4D5n6MOwo" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">TEX</a> because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lenovo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Lenovo</span></a> canceled the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcjEWuk1nig" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Compact Keyboard with UltraNav</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/enshittified" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>enshittified</span></a> it to the point that I'm so close calling a meeting with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Perixx" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Perixx</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sprintek" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Sprintek</span></a> and ask them to build a successor board...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://movsw.0x0.st/@mia" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>mia</span></a></span> okay...</p><p>I guess I've to learn to use my <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a> more!</p>