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It's Richie<a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/CommunityHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CommunityHosting</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Ops" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ops</a> A small group of us are working on community level hosting of 'self-hosted' FOSS tools (think <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/NextCloud" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NextCloud</a> and more) setup as a local service offering for local grassroots organisations. We're seeking advice/tips/guidance.We're keen to do some orchastration but want to avoid the complexity of say Kubernetes.As a start we were looking at Ansible with Docker Swarm but we're now exploring other alternatives.Anyone have experience at this sort of hobbist just a bit bigger than <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/HomeLab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HomeLab</a> Ops scale?<a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Pyinfra" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Pyinfra</a> is being considered as an Ansible, in the projects words "Think ansible but Python instead of YAML, and a lot faster." (<a href="https://pyinfra.com" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://pyinfra.com</a>)Anyone have experience at this homelab/small hosting level? Would love any tips/suggestions for tools/approaches.One source of inspiration is the 12Factor app methodology: <a href="https://12factor.net" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://12factor.net</a>Personally, as a rubyist I'm always keen to know what the ruby community is doing in this space also. Haven't seen many others doing work at this scale, lets use the tag <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/CommunityHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CommunityHosting</a> to keep connected :)<a href="https://adlsolarpunk.net/@digital_justice_society" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@digital_justice_society</a>cc: <a href="https://hachyderm.io/@jadehopepunk" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@jadehopepunk</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/@ryan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ryan</a> @gilbert @bounding_star <a href="https://hachyderm.io/@steph" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@steph</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/@moxvallix" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@moxvallix</a> <a href="https://adlsolarpunk.net/@organvoid" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@organvoid</a> <a href="https://aus.social/@teq" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@teq</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/CommunityHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CommunityHosting</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Python" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Python</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/DevOps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DevOps</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/ruby" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ruby</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/RubyOnRails" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RubyOnRails</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SelfHosting</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Orchastration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Orchastration</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FOSS</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/OpenTofu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OpenTofu</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SelfHosting</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/SelfHosted" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SelfHosted</a>

scyIn the <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Hetzner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Hetzner</a> Cloud API, you can refer to resources by their ID (an integer) or their name. Both are unique. The name is user-defined and designed to be human-readable, but needs to be identifier-like.For example, you'd name a server "db01" or a volume "db-main" or an IP address "db01-v6".However, in <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/pyinfra" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#pyinfra</a>, "name" is a reserved word and I can't use it, but "id" is something else, too.For now I've used "handle" instead of "name", but I wonder whether you have better suggestions.

Serge from BabkaPyInfra demonstrates a powerful point. With Ansible if you want to feed information to Ansible, you must do through so Yaml. Yaml is fine, but PyInfra simply lets you feed information directly to it without an intermediary file format.Why do we complicate our lives with these intermediate formats when they're often unnecessary? Wouldn't pure programming be better for the user?I'm looking at you, OpenTofu.<a href="https://babka.social/tags/PyInfra" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PyInfra</a> <a href="https://babka.social/tags/Yaml" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Yaml</a> <a href="https://babka.social/tags/Programming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Programming</a> <a href="https://babka.social/tags/DSL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DSL</a> <a href="https://babka.social/tags/OpenTofu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OpenTofu</a> <a href="https://babka.social/tags/Terraform" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Terraform</a>

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