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Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.glitched.systems/@froge" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@froge</a> <a href="https://social.treehouse.systems/@bodil" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@bodil</a> Because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenRC</a> just took <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SysVinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SysVinit</a> and read what <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Piettering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Piettering</a> wrote when he vonceptualized <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SystemD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SystemD</a> which meant:<ul><li>Start less</li></ul>&<ul><li>Start more in parallel</li></ul>And the beauty of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FLOSS</a> is that people can roll their own…<ul><li>Even if that may be their sole motivation (looks at <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Devuan</a>)…</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.restless.systems/@CursedSilicon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@CursedSilicon</a> <a href="https://fedi.catto.garden/users/gettie" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@gettie</a> mostly because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/systemD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemD</a> (and it's competitiors) took all the right lessions:<ul><li>Start less</li><li>Start more in parallel</li><li>Resolve dependencies to avoid waiting times</li></ul>And basically everyone (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenRC</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Upstart" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Upstart</a>, etc. Even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LaunchD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LaunchD</a> [the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/init" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#init</a> for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/macOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#macOS</a> that is literally the SystemD but before SystemD and by Apple] and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SMF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SMF</a> [<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sun" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Sun</a>'s SystemD for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Solaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Solaris</a>] did that to allow for boot times in secinds, not minutes…<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo&t=12m17s" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo&t=12m17s</a>

std::mem::justsoupHey Fedi! If you use Linux and use an init system / service manager other than systemd, what do you like about what you are using? Everybody asks how these compare to systemd, so I wanted to see what people thought of them stand-alone.<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/OpenRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenRC</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SystemD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SystemD</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/RunIt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RunIt</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/s6" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#s6</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/whathaveyou" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#whathaveyou</a>

OSTechNixHow To List All Running Daemons In Linux <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Daemon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Daemon</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Process" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Process</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Initsystem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Initsystem</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Systemd</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/SysVinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SysVinit</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/OpenRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenRC</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linuxcommands" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linuxcommands</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linuxbasics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linuxbasics</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linuxhowto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linuxhowto</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linuxadministration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linuxadministration</a> <a href="https://ostechnix.com/list-all-running-daemons-in-linux/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://ostechnix.com/list-all-running-daemons-in-linux/</a>

Eugenia LI was so happy to see a modern OS use just 270 MBs of RAM with XFce. And it's FAAAAAST. But very soon afterwards, it let me down.Alpine Linux is ridden with dependency issues and other random bugs that made it impossible for me to use it as a desktop. Maybe it's great as a server, but it has not seen much love on the desktop side. Maybe it's a human resources problem. More info in the conversation here: <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/AlpineLinux/comments/1haq57c/complete_lockup_with_xfce_as_a_user/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.reddit.com/r/AlpineLinux/comments/1haq57c/complete_lockup_with_xfce_as_a_user/</a><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/alpine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#alpine</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#linux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/alpinelinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#alpinelinux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/xfce" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#xfce</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#opensource</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#foss</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/bugs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#bugs</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/openrc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#openrc</a>

Aho<a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gloopsies" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@gloopsies</a> if using <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Artix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Artix</a> and missing an <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/openrc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#openrc</a> init script, then take a look at <a href="https://gpo.zugaina.org" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://gpo.zugaina.org</a> and you can more or less just copy the files from the portage for the package without need of writing the code yourself, but sure it ain't as simple as just get everything installed from scratch.I can't say I have noticed that there is a lot missing when it comes to packages, sure not as much as <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Gentoo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Gentoo</a> but enough for most desktop users.Running a server I would pick another distro.

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ariadne</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@sertonix" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@sertonix</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/@dalias" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@dalias</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/@leftpaddotpy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@leftpaddotpy</a> <a href="https://social.treehouse.systems/@dysfun" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@dysfun</a> Because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenRC</a>, like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SysVinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SysVinit</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Xorg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Xorg</a> are dead ends.The only reason why anyone ever made <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SystemD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SystemD</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Wayland</a> is because after literal decades of pain and suffering some folks said: "This is junk!" and invested the monumental effort of replacing already neglected Software that barely functioned with something that does!Were the predecessors of systemd and wayland not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/unmaintainable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#unmaintainable</a> and bordering on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Abandonware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Abandonware</a> before, neither of those would've seen adoption!But long-term the best solution wins, and SysVinit as well as X11 were just pulled from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Unix</a>-esque systems that predated <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a>, because back then noone had the time.nor resources nor patience do do something better.Otherwise we would've gotten systemd and wayland way earlier...<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo</a>

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