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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://piaille.fr/@ciourte" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ciourte</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.coop/@netopwibby" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>netopwibby</span></a></span> Needless to say I've only heard of some Spanish low-cost <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MVNO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MVNO</span></a> offering one device only in a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>prepaid</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/bundle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bundle</span></a> when <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FirefoxOS</span></a> was unveiled at the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MWC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MWC</span></a> in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Barcelona" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Barcelona</span></a> based off coverage in <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.heise.de/@ct_Magazin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ct_Magazin</span></a></span> at the time.</p><ul><li>Cuz I remember <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebDevs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WebDevs</span></a> like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fuchsiii</span></a></span> really loving it because it was the then hot &amp; fresh <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HTML5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HTML5</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JS6" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JS6</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CSS3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CSS3</span></a> combo to make it super-easy to do <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Apps</span></a>. All one needs to build an app was <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Firefox</span></a> as Browser and the ability to basically zip' it.</li></ul><p>Alas <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.cc/@Mozilla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mozilla</span></a></span> <em>deciding on purpose</em> to literally <em>splinter the market</em> by letting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MNO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MNO</span></a>|s and MVNOs run their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AppStore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AppStore</span></a>|s instead of a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a> model, making the situation <em>worse</em> than in the <em>"P.R."</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>China</span></a> where there are several vendor-independent <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AppStores" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AppStores</span></a> for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Android</span></a>. </p><ul><li><em>"Conspiracy Theorists"</em> even suggested that this was deliberate self-sabotage to benefit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Google</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Android</span></a>, tho needless to say Firefox OS aimed at devices &amp; specs that were too low for Android.</li></ul><p>Still, I'm <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/StillMad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>StillMad</span></a> at <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mozilla</span></a> for faceplanting Firefox OS cuz it had the easiest way to get started and a good architecture being every <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/App" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>App</span></a> is just a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WebApp</span></a> and all the system calls were standard <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HTML5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HTML5</span></a> permissions and nothing fancy.</p><ul><li>Basically <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PSvita" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PSvita</span></a> - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REaUzHef9h4" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Syndrome,</a> but <em>worse</em> as in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenMoko" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenMoko</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Freenunner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Freenunner</span></a>: </li></ul><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p76exsJn7SU" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">youtube.com/watch?v=p76exsJn7SU</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
fraggle<p>Long before smartphones became walled gardens, there was OpenMoko. Launched in the early 2000s, it was one of the first truly open source smartphone projects with open hardware, open software, open everything. The Neo1973 and later the FreeRunner aimed to give users full control, down to the bootloader and radio firmware.</p><p>The idea was radical for its time. Developers could tinker with the kernel, replace the UI, or even rewrite the modem stack. But poor hardware, high prices, and limited polish meant it never took off commercially. Still, it left a lasting impression on the DIY and privacy-focused communities. OpenMoko was a vision of freedom in your pocket, long before most people realized what they’d given up.</p><p><a href="https://1.6.0.0.8.0.0.b.e.d.0.a.2.ip6.arpa/tags/openmoko" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenMoko</span></a> <a href="https://1.6.0.0.8.0.0.b.e.d.0.a.2.ip6.arpa/tags/forgottentech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ForgottenTech</span></a> <a href="https://1.6.0.0.8.0.0.b.e.d.0.a.2.ip6.arpa/tags/openhardware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenHardware</span></a> <a href="https://1.6.0.0.8.0.0.b.e.d.0.a.2.ip6.arpa/tags/freesoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FreeSoftware</span></a> <a href="https://1.6.0.0.8.0.0.b.e.d.0.a.2.ip6.arpa/tags/mobilefreedom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileFreedom</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ajsadauskas</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>JessTheUnstill</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@tomiahonen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tomiahonen</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fuchsiii</span></a></span> </p><p>And <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MeeGo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MeeGo</span></a> aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Maemo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Maemo</span></a> kinda was lauched <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas/114271044421455134" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dead in the water</a>, with even less support than <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openmoko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenMoko" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenMoko</span></a> powered <a href="https://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FIC Neo1973</a> in it's days, which was as approachable to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechIlliterates</span></a> as a F-22 cockpit to an illiterate…</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://alpha.polymaths.social/@krafter" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>krafter</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://floss.social/@williamtries" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>williamtries</span></a></span> case in point: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenMoko" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenMoko</span></a> existed before the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iPhone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>iPhone</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Android</span></a> and failed not just commercially.</p><ul><li><em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Vanilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Vanilla</span></a>"</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> has failed on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Smartphones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Smartphones</span></a> and the best shot nowadays is to preinstall i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Waydroid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Waydroid</span></a> on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuLTS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UbuntuLTS</span></a> for any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/amd64" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>amd64</span></a>-based <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tablets" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tablets</span></a> on the market...</li></ul><p>Cuz aside from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechLiterates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechLiterates</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tinkerers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tinkerers</span></a> noone buys themselves a "Linux Phone"* like the <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@PINE64" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>PINE64</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PinePhone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PinePhone</span></a>... </p><ul><li>At this point non-Android Linux on Phones is at best a <em>"rounding error"</em>...</li></ul><p>Not that I don't want to see a Linux phone - far from it - it's just not going to happen within the foreseeable fuzure, and thus we've to act situationally and realize that unlike <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>iOS</span></a> we'll at least be able to salbage adapt and reuse Android in most cases...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://floss.social/@williamtries" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>williamtries</span></a></span> IMHO <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileLinux</span></a> died with the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenMoko" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenMoko</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Maemo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Maemo</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MeeGo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MeeGo</span></a> and you'd be hard pressed to try to get anything but <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Android</span></a> adopted anymore...</p>