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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@KIT_Karlsruhe" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>KIT_Karlsruhe</span></a></span> ich halte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a> als langfristig effektiver, gerade weil das Handling wie andere Treibstoffe ist, es aber weniger giftig und umweltgefärdend ist und auch in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Netzersatzanlagen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Netzersatzanlagen</span></a> wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Stromerzeugern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Stromerzeugern</span></a> auf Basis von <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Verbrenner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Verbrenner</span></a>|n sowie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Brennstoffzelle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Brennstoffzelle</span></a>|n ans <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Wasserstoff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Wasserstoff</span></a>|quelle funktioniert und teure Hochdrucktechnik einspart.</p><ul><li>Die <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Energiedichte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Energiedichte</span></a> ist signifikant höher <em>und</em> das Gewicht für <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tanks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tanks</span></a> ist es auch!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://photog.social/@midgephoto" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>midgephoto</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://climatejustice.social/@KarlHeinzHasliP" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>KarlHeinzHasliP</span></a></span> They only release the amount of CO² one captured beforehand. And it can be 100% regeneratively produced.</p><ul><li>Ammonia is a health hazard and has hundred of times higher <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GWP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GWP</span></a> than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CO2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CO2</span></a> and even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methane" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methane</span></a>.</li></ul><p>Also <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a> is bio-degradable as it's so common in nature that bacteria and fungi exist that decompose it.</p><ul><li>Not to mention the logistics of handling a liquid fuel is quite easy. Unlike usibg Hydrogen directly it doesn't necessitate 700bar high oressure systems that are prone to icing.</li></ul><p>Compared to how batteries are an envoirmental nightmare to get the necessary rare earth elements, I see this as a longterm sustainable option.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://norden.social/@hart" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>hart</span></a></span> und für <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Netzersatzanlagen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Netzersatzanlagen</span></a> und als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Reserve" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Reserve</span></a> kann bei <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/%C3%9Cberschuss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Überschuss</span></a> der <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Erneuerbaren" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Erneuerbaren</span></a> entsprechend <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a> elektrochemisch produziert werden welches super lagerbar ist und sowohl per <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Brennstoffzelle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Brennstoffzelle</span></a> als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Netzersatzanlage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Netzersatzanlage</span></a> &amp; Stromquelle für <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Elektroautos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Elektroautos</span></a> als auch bei <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Gasturbinenkraftwerken" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Gasturbinenkraftwerken</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Notreserve" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Notreserve</span></a> bieten kann!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.green/@VQuaschning" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>VQuaschning</span></a></span> bin ja dafür <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanolwortschaft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanolwortschaft</span></a> mittels <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Solar%C3%BCberschuss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Solarüberschuss</span></a> anzutreiben und damit sowohl <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Reserve" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Reserve</span></a> als auch Ersatz für <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Stromerzeuger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Stromerzeuger</span></a> wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Netzersatzanlagen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Netzersatzanlagen</span></a> liefern zu können.</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Brennstoffzellen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Brennstoffzellen</span></a>-Auto wäre auch flinker nachzutankenvals Nachzuladen, was <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Reichweitenangst" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Reichweitenangst</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Abh%C3%A4ngigkeit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Abhängigkeit</span></a> für <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SeltejeErden" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SeltejeErden</span></a> reduziert!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://astronomy.social/@admin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>admin</span></a></span> IMHO wäre eher <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a>-Produktion ais <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Solar%C3%BCberschuss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Solarüberschuss</span></a> samt <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanolwirtschaft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanolwirtschaft</span></a> und diese in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Gaskraftwerken" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Gaskraftwerken</span></a> sowie für <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Netzersatzanlagen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Netzersatzanlagen</span></a> (Methanol-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Stromerzeuger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Stromerzeuger</span></a> statt <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Diesel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Diesel</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Brennstoffzellen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Brennstoffzellen</span></a>-Fahrzeuge) simnvoller als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Erdgas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Erdgas</span></a>-Kraftwerke, weil <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nachhaltiger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Nachhaltiger</span></a>!</p>
Europe Says<p><a href="https://www.europesays.com/2043820/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">europesays.com/2043820/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> ABS explores alternative fuels options for vessels <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/ABS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ABS</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/AlternativeFuels" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AlternativeFuels</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/ammonia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ammonia</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/GasPrice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GasPrice</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/LiquefiedNaturalGas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LiquefiedNaturalGas</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/lng" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>lng</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/LngAsAFuel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LngAsAFuel</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/LNGPrice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LNGPrice</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>methanol</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/NaturalGas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NaturalGas</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/ReducingShippingEmissions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ReducingShippingEmissions</span></a></p>
Europe Says<p><a href="https://www.europesays.com/2039049/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">europesays.com/2039049/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> India and Netherlands set the wheels in motion for green maritime corridor <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/ammonia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ammonia</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/GreenShippingCorridor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GreenShippingCorridor</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/hydrogen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>hydrogen</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/India" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>India</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/MaritimeDigitalization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MaritimeDigitalization</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>methanol</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Nederland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Nederland</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/netherlands" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>netherlands</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Nieuws" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Nieuws</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/PortOfRotterdam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PortOfRotterdam</span></a></p>
Glyn Moody<p>I was 19 and on the trip of a lifetime – then I drank a cocktail laced with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>methanol</span></a> - <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2025/apr/29/i-was-19-and-on-the-trip-of-a-lifetime-then-i-drank-a-cocktail-laced-with-methanol" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2</span><span class="invisible">025/apr/29/i-was-19-and-on-the-trip-of-a-lifetime-then-i-drank-a-cocktail-laced-with-methanol</span></a> her uplifting journey</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@peterjelinek" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>peterjelinek</span></a></span> ja, deshalb sehe ich <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/batterielektrosch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>batterielektrosch</span></a>|e Fahrzeuge als Problem...</p><ul><li>Langfristig wird dies <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Brennstoffzelle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Brennstoffzelle</span></a> attraktiver machen...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@isotopp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>isotopp</span></a></span> Ja, 59 Autos lohnt sich nicht.</p><ul><li>Wären <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Batterieautos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Batterieautos</span></a> nicht mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Subventionen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Subventionen</span></a> bei der <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Infrastruktur" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Infrastruktur</span></a> bevorzugt worden wäre dies vielleicht anders.</li></ul><p>Allerdings denke ich dass langfristig <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Brennstoffzelle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Brennstoffzelle</span></a> sich durchsetzt, weil höhere <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Energiedichte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Energiedichte</span></a>, preiswertere Logistik und sichererer Umgang.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://climatejustice.social/@KarlHeinzHasliP" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>KarlHeinzHasliP</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodontech.de/@denki" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>denki</span></a></span> Personally, I think that standardized <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/batteries" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>batteries</span></a> that get swapped would've been the solution to the charging speed problem.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BEV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BEV</span></a>|s are a problem and the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyDensity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EnergyDensity</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Charging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Charging</span></a> problems are hard walls that can only be circumvented (i.e. swapping fluids at a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RedoxFlow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RedoxFlow</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Battery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Battery</span></a>) or ignored (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuelCell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FuelCell</span></a>)...</p><ul><li>Personally, I think <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trolleybuses" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trolleybuses</span></a> are <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB9EARKvCTc&amp;t=3m45s" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the best option</a> if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trams</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trains" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trains</span></a> ain't feasible (i.e. steep grates like in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Solingen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Solingen</span></a>) and the few edgecases that'll never get 24/7 once per hour bus service or even an on-call minibus need to get more efficient without <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ConflictMinerals" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ConflictMinerals</span></a> from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UnfairTrade" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UnfairTrade</span></a> (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cobalt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cobalt</span></a>) and destruction of unique habitats (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lithium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Lithium</span></a>)...</li></ul><p>Solving the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyProblem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EnergyProblem</span></a> isn't a technological issue, but a political one (see <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DESERTEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DESERTEC</span></a>)...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://karlsruhe-social.de/@giggls" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>giggls</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://bonn.social/@ulrichkelber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ulrichkelber</span></a></span> Deren Volumen- und Gewichtseffizienz ist signifikant schlechter als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiFePO4" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LiFePO4</span></a> und daher eignen die sich nur für großvolumige <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USV</span></a>|s.</p><ul><li>Besonders wenns ums verdrängen von <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Diesel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Diesel</span></a> geht dürfte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Brennstoffzelle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Brennstoffzelle</span></a> erfolgreich sein, weil damit keine Handling-Unterschiede sind und bei <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LKW" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LKW</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Bus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bus</span></a>|en und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Netzersatzanlage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Netzersatzanlage</span></a>|n die schnelle Nachtankbarkeit sowie hohe <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Eenergiedichte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Eenergiedichte</span></a> siegt, damit also <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Verbrenner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Verbrenner</span></a>-Ende vereinfacht!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://karlsruhe-social.de/@giggls" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>giggls</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://bonn.social/@ulrichkelber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ulrichkelber</span></a></span> naja...</p><p>Ich glaube eher dass <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Brennstoffzelle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Brennstoffzelle</span></a> langfristig die Lösung wird weil effizienter Elektroantrieb ohne tonnenweise <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Konfliktmineralien" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Konfliktmineralien</span></a> aus <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UnfairTrade" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UnfairTrade</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Raubbau" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Raubbau</span></a> in Form von Akkus!</p><ul><li>Außerdem löst dies das <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Ladeproblem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Ladeproblem</span></a> woe auch <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Reichweitenproblem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Reichweitenproblem</span></a> elegant und verhindert <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Feinstaub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Feinstaub</span></a> wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NOx" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NOx</span></a>, ist also besser als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/batterieelektrisch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>batterieelektrisch</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Diesel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Diesel</span></a> und kann auch letzteres als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Netzersatzanlage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Netzersatzanlage</span></a> ersetzen!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://digitalcourage.social/@krzym" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>krzym</span></a></span> <em>"als jede <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Brennstoffzelle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Brennstoffzelle</span></a>"</em> ist fraglich, besonders wenn wir Energiedichte &amp; Kapazität in kWh nehmen.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a> speichert deutlich mehr Energie pro Gewicht &amp; Volumen als Akkus, und nen Tank ist signifikant weniger Leergewicht als nen Akku...</p><p>-Ein <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiFePO4" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LiFePO4</span></a>- Akku mit 500Ah bei 12V &amp; 25kg Gewicht sind 240Wh/kg. Bei Methanol sind es &gt; 2.000Wh/kg bzw. &gt;1.500Wh/l <a href="http://siqens.de/fuel-cells/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">1</a>.</p><p>Außerdem ist Methanol nicht nur billig sondern auch sicherer im Umgang, umweltfreundlicher im Brandfall und mit existierender Infrastruktur logistisch meisterbar.</p><ul><li>Gerade als Speicher für elektrische Energie wäre die Methanolherstellung sinnvoll.</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://digitalcourage.social/@krzym" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>krzym</span></a></span> Klar, nur sind weder was Kosten noch Energiedichte angeht Batterien konkurrenzfähig.</p><p>-Hinzu kommt das Handling und der Unwille der Hersteller, interoperable Akkutauschsysteme umzusetzen (denn sonst wäre das Ladezeitenproblem umgehbar)...</p><p>So oder so wird eine Notwendigkeit der Speicherung von Energie in skalierbarer Form notwendig und Netzersatzanlagen für Kritische Infrastruktur vom Krankenhaus bis Rechenzentrum müssen vorgehalten werden.</p><ul><li>Wenn wir also keine stinkenden Verbrenner wollen geht nur noch <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a>-Brennstoffzelle!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://digitalcourage.social/@krzym" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>krzym</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.heise.de/@heiseonline" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>heiseonline</span></a></span> naja, Schnelladen skaliert nicht, außerdem brauchts Lösungen die <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Diesel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Diesel</span></a> ebenfalls ersetzen, sei es <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Netzersatzanlagen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Netzersatzanlagen</span></a> oder <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Bus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bus</span></a>|se &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LKW" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LKW</span></a>|s.</p><ul><li>Auch löst <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a> das <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Energiedichte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Energiedichte</span></a>- und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Speicherproblem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Speicherproblem</span></a> eleganter ubd skalierbarer als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lithiumakkus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Lithiumakkus</span></a>!</li></ul><p>Spätestens wenn die <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/%C3%96lindustrie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Ölindustrie</span></a> flext und jede Tanke.ne Methanolzapfe hat knallen Skalierungseffekte rein, oder glaubste ernsthaft <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tankstellen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tankstellen</span></a>|betreiber lassen sich das entgehen und/oder akzeptieren weniger Kunden pro Stunde qua Ladestelle?</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@ErikJonker" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ErikJonker</span></a></span> that's a good level of recycling...</p><ul><li>Still I think <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lithium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Lithium</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/batteries" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>batteries</span></a> are inherently bad.</li></ul><p>Not as bad as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/leaded" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>leaded</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gasoline" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gasoline</span></a>, but <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fuelcell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fuelcell</span></a> would be the technologically superior option longterm...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://eldritch.cafe/@Teskariel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Teskariel</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@tazgetroete" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tazgetroete</span></a></span> vorallem weil <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Wasserstoff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Wasserstoff</span></a> nicht schmiert...</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Brennstoffzelle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Brennstoffzelle</span></a> (mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a>) wäre ohnehin effizienter...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@hanno" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>hanno</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Ammonia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Ammonia</span></a> also seems rather wasteful.</p><p>Why not use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a> as that can be used with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuelCells" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FuelCells</span></a>, thus allowing for a clean replacement of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Diesel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Diesel</span></a> - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Generators" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Generators</span></a> in applications like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EmergencyPower" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EmergencyPower</span></a> for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Hospitals" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hospitals</span></a> and other <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CriticalInfrastructure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CriticalInfrastructure</span></a>?</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://23.social/@SchreibeEinfach" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>SchreibeEinfach</span></a></span> ich rechne langfristig mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Brennstoffzelle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Brennstoffzelle</span></a> als Ersatz dür <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Diesel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Diesel</span></a>, besonders bei <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Netzersatzanlagen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Netzersatzanlagen</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Stromerzeugern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Stromerzeugern</span></a> weil <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Akkus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Akkus</span></a> allein sind keine Lösung für Krankenhäuser, Rechenzentren und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KRITIS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KRITIS</span></a>...</p>