Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://tiggi.es/@DeltaWye" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>DeltaWye</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://birdbutt.com/@colinstu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>colinstu</span></a></span> still, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Discord</span></a> will inevitably die from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Enshittification</span></a>, just like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ICQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICQ</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telegram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Telegram</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AIM</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Skype" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Skype</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MSN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MSN</span></a>, etc.</p><ul><li>So far, my bets on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> are paying off dividents!</li></ul>
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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.derg.nz/@anthropy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>anthropy</span></a></span> which is why I'll never trust <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> at all.</p><p><em>shows burn marks from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ICQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICQ</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Skype" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Skype</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tumblr" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tumblr</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Twitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Twitter</span></a>,...</em></p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> is the only stable option!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@erebion" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>erebion</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@inaruck" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>inaruck</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scherheit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scherheit</span></a> bedeutet ja <a href="https://chaos.social/@erebion/114038705703666014" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">nicht nur</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ITsec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ITsec</span></a>, sondern <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InfoSec</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpSec</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ComSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ComSec</span></a>.</p><ul><li>Alle <em>zentralisierten</em> Systeme sind diesbezüglich inhärent schlecht, gerade <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> welches eine <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VCmoneyBurningParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VCmoneyBurningParty</span></a> ist und in keinster weise <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/nachhaltig" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>nachhaltig</span></a> ist.</li></ul><p>Gibt Gründe warum <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a> bis heute existieren ubd warum keiner mehr <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AIM</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ICQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICQ</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MSN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MSN</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BBM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BBM</span></a> & Co. nutzt!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@compl4xx" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>compl4xx</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://layer8.space/@Layer8" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Layer8</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hhmx.de/@nick" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nick</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>kuketzblog</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://waldvogel.family/@marcel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>marcel</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fnordon.de/@mspro" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mspro</span></a></span></p><ul><li><em>EXAKT DAS!</em></li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/113938762230637543" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Meine Rede</a>...</p><p>Oder um es einfach zu erklären: Warum gibt es <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HTTP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HTTP</span></a>(S) & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HTML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HTML</span></a> sowie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a> ( <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IMAP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IMAP</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SMTP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SMTP</span></a>) bis heute und keiner nutzt mehr <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AOL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AOL</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MSN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MSN</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ICQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICQ</span></a>?</p><ul><li>Weil nur <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OffeneStandards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OffeneStandards</span></a> als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MultiVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MultiVendor</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MultiProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MultiProvider</span></a> - Lösung taugen und langfristig überleben können!!!</li></ul><p>Wenn <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> wegen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> <em>geflipped</em> wird wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a> dann stehen Leute alternativlos in der shice ubd die ganzen <em>"Sicherheitsversprechen"</em> lösen sich in <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TrustMeBro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TrustMeBro</span></a>!"</em> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/L%C3%BCgen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Lügen</span></a> auf.</p><ul><li>Wohingegen selbst wenn <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> nen Front wäre, es mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME (bspw. <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a>) sie Sicherheit sank <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SepfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SepfCustody</span></a> gewahrt und mittels <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> zusätzliche Sicherheit implementiert werden kann!</li></ul><p>Ich nutze meinen XMPP-Account seit Ewigkeiten und habe drölfzig Clients durch. Aber Kontakte erreichen mich darüber Problemlos!</p>
Rockwell Schrock<p>AOL Instant Messenger is back! Sort of! Although AIM shut down in 2017, the retro-aim-server project keeps it alive in modern, self-hosted server that supports ICQ, too. <a href="https://github.com/mk6i/retro-aim-server" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/mk6i/retro-aim-serv</span><span class="invisible">er</span></a></p><p>I'm running an instance at oscar.schrockwell.com, so sign in with any screen name and come say hello! Client install directions here: <a href="https://github.com/mk6i/retro-aim-server/blob/main/docs/CLIENT.md" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/mk6i/retro-aim-serv</span><span class="invisible">er/blob/main/docs/CLIENT.md</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/vintagecomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>vintagecomputing</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/aim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>aim</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/icq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>icq</span></a></p>
:awesome: Shawn<p>Haha amazing, AIM and ICQ live again! :aim_logo: </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taDOa2zIhlo" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">youtube.com/watch?v=taDOa2zIhlo</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> </p><p><a href="https://aus.social/tags/retrocomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>retrocomputing</span></a> <a href="https://aus.social/tags/aolinstantmessenger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>aolinstantmessenger</span></a> <a href="https://aus.social/tags/icq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>icq</span></a> <a href="https://aus.social/tags/aim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>aim</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>rysiek</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://circumstances.run/@agturcz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>agturcz</span></a></span> that's not how you fix <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliteracy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechIlliteracy</span></a>, espechally since things changed for the better.</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> & <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gajim</span></a> are quite easy, whereas <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> demands <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> in the form of a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Phone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Phone</span></a> number which is more often than not not legally obtainable without <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KYC</span></a>"</em> aka. <em>"forced <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfDoxxing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfDoxxing</span></a>"</em> all whilst being an extremely <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> solution that falls under <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> ant thus <em>cannot</em> adhere to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GDPR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GDPR</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BDSG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BDSG</span></a>!</p><ul><li>Sorry, but <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechPopulism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechPopulism</span></a>"</em> alike <a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/113869169340313254" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><code>"JuSt UsE sIgNaL !"</code></a> won't fix <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliteracy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechIlliteracy</span></a> but rather provide false sense of security to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechIlliterates</span></a> when the <em>correct solution</em> is to teach <em>proper</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechLiteracy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechLiteracy</span></a> like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@cryptoparty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>cryptoparty@chaos.social</span></a></span> / <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.earth/@cryptoparty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>cryptoparty@mastodon.earth</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoParty</span></a> does...</li></ul><p>Otherwise we'd only perpetuate the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Enshittification</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lifecycle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Lifecycle</span></a> as has happened with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AIM</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ICQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICQ</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BBM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BBM</span></a> and so many more...</p><ul><li>Mark my words, cuz I've been proven correct up to this point.</li></ul><p>If <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> <em>actually cared</em>, they would've setup their system <em>truly decentralized</em> as an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> over <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a>!</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/THXBYE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>THXBYE</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EOD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EOD</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ITsec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ITsec</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InfoSec</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpSec</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ComSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ComSec</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DigitalSnakeoil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DigitalSnakeoil</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FakeSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FakeSec</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@MastoDenunzianten" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>MastoDenunzianten</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> </p><p>Natürlich kannste der <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Desinformation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Desinformation</span></a> von <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Diensteanbietern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Diensteanbietern</span></a> glauben, aber dann ist <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WhatsApp</span></a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpymYLptu8o" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">auch</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a> weil die <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SSL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SSL</span></a> nutzen (und mit der Logik auch <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WeChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WeChat</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/QQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QQ</span></a> - lol)!</p><ul><li>Ernsthaft, es gibt nen Grund warum <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME bis heute sich halten und proprietäre shice alla <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MSN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MSN</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ICQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICQ</span></a> tot ist.</li></ul><p>Gerade weil wirkliche <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InfoSec</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpSec</span></a> sowie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ComSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ComSec</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ITsec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ITsec</span></a> nur mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Transparenz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Transparenz</span></a> geht.</p><ul><li>Ich vertrau' prinzipiell <em>keinem</em> Code oder Anbieter...</li></ul>
Henry Fisher<p>It's a good time to remember the long-forgotten programs like ICQ and QIP, where the only thing left from the good old ICQ is the "o-ou" sound. They already had their own emojis and icons, and in the latest versions even their own qip.ru account. But I agree, it was a good thing! It made ICQ more comfortable and interesting. Just a plugin like the one that fetched the current song from Winamp and put the title in ICQ status was worth a lot!</p><p>It was amazing that ICQ had an open protocol that allowed you to write your own clients. I remember a rebellious one under Mandriva Linux that I built from source code. It took an enormous amount of energy. Especially later with the encodings. But what joy it was when everything started working stably!</p><p>In the picture is my honeymoon with Linux. I started making these kinds of screenshots before it became mainstream 😬</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.ml/@vladimir" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">mastodon.ml/@vladimir</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://dindon.one/tags/Nostalgia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Nostalgia</span></a> <a href="https://dindon.one/tags/ICQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICQ</span></a> <a href="https://dindon.one/tags/QIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QIP</span></a> <a href="https://dindon.one/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> <a href="https://dindon.one/tags/TechMemoryWorld" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechMemoryWorld</span></a></p><p>Source: <a href="https://dindon.one/@oleg_ru/108815062876179393" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">dindon.one/@oleg_ru/1088150628</span><span class="invisible">76179393</span></a></p><p>Source: <a href="https://dindon.one/@oleg_ru/108815062876179393" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">dindon.one/@oleg_ru/1088150628</span><span class="invisible">76179393</span></a></p>
Seth Galitzer<p>Of all of the pieces of useless information for my brain to hold on to, why is my <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ICQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICQ</span></a> number still one of them? 4450860, btw.<br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/brainsareweird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>brainsareweird</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/uselesstrivia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>uselesstrivia</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/oldnerdproblems" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>oldnerdproblems</span></a></p>
EinMensch<p>Gerade eben in einem Twitch-Stream den notification sound von <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/ICQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICQ</span></a> gehört.<br>Jetzt fühle ich mich alt.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@briankrebs" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>briankrebs</span></a></span> +9001%</p><p>I've seen how <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tumblr" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tumblr</span></a> got <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/enshittified" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>enshittified</span></a> and how <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Musk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Musk</span></a> ruined <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Twitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Twitter</span></a> into <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitter</span></a>... </p><ul><li>I'm not gonna do the same mistake <em>again</em>!</li></ul><p><em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GTFO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GTFO</span></a>!"</em> should be the motto, cuz only truly <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/decentralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralized</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SocialMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialMedia</span></a> and Communications <em>will survive</em>... </p><p>Everything else, regardless if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TikTok" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TikTok</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Threads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Threads</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Discord</span></a> will die like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ICQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICQ</span></a> before, whilst we'll all be able to use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME-encrypted <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a> forever...</p>
BoneQuest<p>Today in BoneQuest History for November 15th 2003 "ASS TO BALLS TRANSFER PROTOCOL" <a href="https://bonequest.com/1869" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">bonequest.com/1869</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> <a href="https://bonequest.net/tags/bonequest" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bonequest</span></a> :deuce: :pants: <a href="https://bonequest.net/tags/ass" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ass</span></a> <a href="https://bonequest.net/tags/balls" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>balls</span></a> <a href="https://bonequest.net/tags/deuce_pants" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deuce_pants</span></a> <a href="https://bonequest.net/tags/fucking_shut_up" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fucking_shut_up</span></a> <a href="https://bonequest.net/tags/icq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>icq</span></a> <a href="https://bonequest.net/tags/protocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>protocol</span></a> <a href="https://bonequest.net/tags/rfc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rfc</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://geekdom.social/@bigolifacks" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>bigolifacks</span></a></span> and <em>that</em> makes it worse than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NSAbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NSAbook</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitter</span></a> because those can at least be scraped, archived, exported and somewhat transfered.</p><ul><li>Whereas <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Discord</span></a> refuses to provide any method that is workable for doing so, as it combines the worst things of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Slack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Slack</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MicrosoftTeams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MicrosoftTeams</span></a>, the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LKML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LKML</span></a> or any big <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MailingList" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MailingList</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a> with 0 of their benefits.</li></ul><p>I'd rather <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHost</span></a> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@zulip" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>zulip</span></a></span>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JitsiMeet</span></a> with a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VoIP</span></a>-Bridge, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.xyz/@nextcloud" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nextcloud</span></a></span> + <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://floss.social/@collabora" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>collabora</span></a></span> than use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Discord</span></a> because those don't prevent one from sharing content or actually <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/archiving" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>archiving</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/exporting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>exporting</span></a> conversations. </p><ul><li>Thus Discord is <em>objectively evidenced</em> as <em>irredeemably bad</em> because it's worse than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ICQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICQ</span></a> - <em>even in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ToS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ToS</span></a></em>!</li></ul>
DW Innovation<p>It's unlikely that lot of people are going to miss the service in this day and age, but it was certainly important for internet communications at some point – and pretty iconic (“Uh oh!”). Instant messenger <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ICQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICQ</span></a> is shutting down today, 27 years and 7 months after its original launch.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICQ" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICQ</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Claude Trudel<p>Messagerie instantanée phare de la fin des années 1990, ICQ ferme ses portes<br><a href="https://www.lapresse.ca/affaires/techno/2024-06-26/messagerie-instantanee-phare-de-la-fin-des-annees-1990-icq-ferme-ses-portes.php" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">lapresse.ca/affaires/techno/20</span><span class="invisible">24-06-26/messagerie-instantanee-phare-de-la-fin-des-annees-1990-icq-ferme-ses-portes.php</span></a><br><a href="https://jasette.facil.services/tags/Internet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Internet</span></a> <a href="https://jasette.facil.services/tags/informatique" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>informatique</span></a> <a href="https://jasette.facil.services/tags/r%C3%A9seau" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>réseau</span></a> <a href="https://jasette.facil.services/tags/ICQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICQ</span></a> <a href="https://jasette.facil.services/tags/histoire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>histoire</span></a> <a href="https://jasette.facil.services/tags/technologie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>technologie</span></a> <a href="https://jasette.facil.services/tags/communication" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>communication</span></a> <a href="https://jasette.facil.services/tags/ordinateur" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ordinateur</span></a> <a href="https://jasette.facil.services/tags/techno" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>techno</span></a></p>
Ten<p>26 years ago I discovered ICQ and I used it for about five years after that. I met some amazing people on it and some not so amazing people, but overall I had a really good time with it. </p><p>I'm not really sad about this as I hadn't used it in over twenty years because better things have come along since then. </p><p>Now if IRC ever dies (don't think it ever will)...then I might be sad!</p><p><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/25/24164579/icq-shut-down-june" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">theverge.com/2024/5/25/2416457</span><span class="invisible">9/icq-shut-down-june</span></a></p><p><a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/internet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>internet</span></a><br><a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/icq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>icq</span></a><br><a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/oldinternet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>oldinternet</span></a></p>
Scripter :verified_flashing:<p>ICQ: Warum der Messenger scheiterte - und schließlich starb<br><a href="https://www.rnd.de/digital/icq-warum-der-messenger-scheiterte-und-schliesslich-starb-WF5YZQDP3NHIHAGVCXIQPSRCSI.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">rnd.de/digital/icq-warum-der-m</span><span class="invisible">essenger-scheiterte-und-schliesslich-starb-WF5YZQDP3NHIHAGVCXIQPSRCSI.html</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Messenger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Messenger</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/ICQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICQ</span></a></p>
Glyn Moody<p>Desperately seeking <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ICQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICQ</span></a>? It may shut down, but Nina could resurrect it - <a href="https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/31/nina_saving_icq/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">theregister.com/2024/05/31/nin</span><span class="invisible">a_saving_icq/</span></a> "Multiple folks are working on FOSS servers for classic messaging apps"</p>
IT News<p>RIP ICQ: Remembering a classic messaging app that was way ahead of its time - Enlarge / ICQ in Windows 98. (credit: Samuel Axon) </p><p>After nearl... - <a href="https://arstechnica.com/?p=2027215" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">arstechnica.com/?p=2027215</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/instantmessaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>instantmessaging</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/socialnetworking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>socialnetworking</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/miraballis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>miraballis</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/timewarner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>timewarner</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/mail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mail</span></a>.ru <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tech</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/aol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>aol</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/icq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>icq</span></a></p>
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