AnneTheWriter<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://tootsweet.social/@annewalk" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>annewalk</span></a></span> <br>🧵3/X<br>On that same idea... While <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Grammarly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Grammarly</span></a> , <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/ProWritingAid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ProWritingAid</span></a> , and other similar grammar software are AI, they are a different kind of <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a> . While they do use <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/GenerativeAI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GenerativeAI</span></a> to offer suggestions etc, they do not write the book for you. </p><p>In the same way that "All Dalmations are dogs, but not all dogs are Dalmations," it is also accurate to say that "All <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/GenerativeAI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GenerativeAI</span></a> is AI, but not all <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a> is Generative."</p><p>Grammarly does use AI to assist writers, but it cannot write the book for them. This is why I personally have far fewer ethical issues with such software. Yes, it probably did scrape a library for training, but at least it doesn't allow writers to take credit for the work of a robot. </p><p><a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/WritingCommunity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritingCommunity</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/WritersLife" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritersLife</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/ChatGPT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ChatGPT</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/OpenAI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenAI</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/WritingWithChatbots" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritingWithChatbots</span></a></p>
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AnneTheWriter<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://tootsweet.social/@annewalk" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>annewalk</span></a></span> <br>🧵2/X<br>As for the issue of using <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Grammarly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Grammarly</span></a> vs <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/ChatGPT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ChatGPT</span></a> :</p><p>Think of the process of making a wedding gown.</p><p>The Seamstress measures the bride, designs the gown, draws & cuts out the paper pattern, chooses the materials, cuts out the fabric, sews it all together, then tailors it for the bride. </p><p>If robots were to make the gown-- drawing out the design, cutting fabric, etc.-- then she would not be a “Seamstress.” She would NOT be an artist, she would merely be using a machine, the same way you use a toaster. (This is the equivalent of generative AI, which draws & writes everything based on prompts, while the prompter does none of the actual work.)</p><p>But the Seamstress makes the gown. Yes, she uses a sewing machine, but the majority of the hard work is her own. (Similarly, programs like Grammarly use a form of AI, but the writer/artist who uses them is like the Seamstress who uses a sewing machine: Those are merely tools to help the writer, and the writer does all the actual work.)</p>
AnneTheWriter<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://tootsweet.social/@annewalk" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>annewalk</span></a></span> <br>🧵1/X<br>This also points to the need to pay a HUMAN Editor instead of relying on only <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a> or grammar-checker software to "edit" the book. Human eyes would have caught this. Chatbots and <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Grammarly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Grammarly</span></a> are NOT a full replacement for a paid <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Editor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Editor</span></a> . "Self-editing" does NOT replace a human Editor.</p><p>Humans will catch other things that AI tends to miss, like:</p><p>* A character's eye or clothing color changing mid-paragraph.</p><p>* Info dumps (NEVER use them).</p><p>* Overuse of the same word.</p><p>* Too much tell, not enough show.</p><p>* Homonymns and other words that spell-checkers won't catch.</p><p>* Inconsistent punctuation style.</p><p>* Paragraphs that REALLY need to be broken up.</p><p>* The most problematic issues with "self-editing" are the sentences where YOU know what you meant, but the reader will be confused. </p><p>A good <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/editor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>editor</span></a> does far more than spellcheck. They are well worth their cost. A quality book uses human Editors.</p><p><a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/WritingCommunity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritingCommunity</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/WritersLife" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritersLife</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/ChatGPT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ChatGPT</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/OpenAI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenAI</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/GenerativeAI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GenerativeAI</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Writing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Writing</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/EditorsLife" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EditorsLife</span></a></p>
Third spruce tree on the left<p>Grammarly: we miss you! Did you take a writing break? </p><p>me: it's not you, it's my new IT department won't allow <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Grammarly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Grammarly</span></a> and Microsoft Editor sucks donkey balls; I guess having proper <a href="https://mas.to/tags/spelling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>spelling</span></a>, grammar and <a href="https://mas.to/tags/punctuation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>punctuation</span></a> in our product <a href="https://mas.to/tags/documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>documentation</span></a> isn't a priority here at InniTrobe.</p>
Third spruce tree on the left<p>Its pretty sad when one of the few congratulatory / motivational feedbacks you get in your career is from <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Grammarly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Grammarly</span></a>. "Congratulations Tree! You're outpacing the competition! You're in the top 97% of all Grammarly users!" </p><p>Which begs the question, I'm totally phoning it in here, what the hell are you all doing?</p>
Shantell Powell<p>I wrote a historical novella in nonstandard English (Maritimes vernacular), and an editor suggested I should use Grammarly. FFS. I know how grammar works, and used the correct rules of that vernacular. Grammarly would destroy the narrative flow of this story. <a href="https://c.im/tags/WritingCommunity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritingCommunity</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Grammarly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Grammarly</span></a></p>
JustMe<p>Here I was thinking I didn't do anything this week and <a href="https://indiepocalypse.social/tags/grammarly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>grammarly</span></a> is all “nah girl, you got this”.</p>
Alexis Miller<p>Grammarly, do you see a comma there? Does this LOOK like a nonrestrictive phrase? Okay, maybe it kinda looks like it. But it's decidedly not.</p><p>This silly app...</p><p>I get extra annoyed when I remember that people with less grammar-related training trust Grammarly. They're being misinformed.</p><p>I suppose that's why I and other <a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/edibuddies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>edibuddies</span></a> decided to edit. We can serve writers better than any program can, and we enjoy doing it.</p><p><a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/Grammarly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Grammarly</span></a> <a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/grammar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>grammar</span></a></p>
Em :official_verified:<p>Do I know anyone who works at <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Grammarly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Grammarly</span></a> ? </p><p>I have a question about a job opening there.</p>
AnneTheWriter<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>rysiek</span></a></span> <br>4/<br>To believe that <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a> will merely be a harmless and purely benevolent tool for everyone is naive, imo-- especially for those in <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/writing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writing</span></a> and <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/publishing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>publishing</span></a>. </p><p>The <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/automobile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>automobile</span></a> revolutionized the world. In the process, it also put a lot of blacksmiths out of work, and sent a lot of horses to glue factories & slaughterhouses.</p><p>I see my <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/editorial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>editorial</span></a> career as being like a blacksmith in the age of <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a>. It won't be a common job in the future, & the few who do it will have a very different job description & use very different tools than I ever have. Software like <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Grammarly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Grammarly</span></a> & <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/ChatGPT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ChatGPT</span></a> can already do much of the work I used to do-- not as well as a human right now, but it won't be long until they can reliably replace <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/editors" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>editors</span></a>.</p><p>But once again, we'll be handing our <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/art" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>art</span></a> over to corporations-- the same oligarchs who plowed over our <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/copyrights" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>copyrights</span></a> to train their AI will control the software that they'll make us reliant on.</p><p><a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/WritingCommunity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritingCommunity</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/WritersOfMastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritersOfMastodon</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Writer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Writer</span></a>'s <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/ArtificialIntelligence" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ArtificialIntelligence</span></a></p>
John Balestrieri<p><a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Grammarly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Grammarly</span></a> about to lose their push-notification privileges.</p>
John Balestrieri<p>Bizarrely, <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Grammarly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Grammarly</span></a> prompts you to write a public App Store review when you want to provide feedback.</p>
Taylor Durham<p>as of now, the best use case for <a href="https://ohai.social/tags/ChatGPT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ChatGPT</span></a> might be replacing apps such as <a href="https://ohai.social/tags/Grammarly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Grammarly</span></a> or <a href="https://ohai.social/tags/Hemmingway" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hemmingway</span></a>, asking queries that generate entire captions and texts with sourced information rather than basic grammar software</p>
rusty<p><a href="https://aus.social/tags/Introduction" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Introduction</span></a> / <a href="https://aus.social/tags/introductions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>introductions</span></a> Well, I'm *thinks hard* a <a href="https://aus.social/tags/WFH" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WFH</span></a> lecturer/arts educator/artist who follows <a href="https://aus.social/tags/SilentSunday" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SilentSunday</span></a>, <a href="https://aus.social/tags/landscape" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>landscape</span></a> artists, <a href="https://aus.social/tags/ClassicalMusic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ClassicalMusic</span></a>, <a href="https://aus.social/tags/Birdlovers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Birdlovers</span></a>, <a href="https://aus.social/tags/SciFi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SciFi</span></a> and <a href="https://aus.social/tags/AncientHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AncientHistory</span></a> buffs, <a href="https://aus.social/tags/historicalwarfilms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>historicalwarfilms</span></a> as my perennial interests but open to new ideas and interests. </p><p>I have a strange fascination for the maritime. Like to sail the vastness of the deep, deep seas and deep, deep space in my mind's eye. But not a real sailor as, like Sir Francis Chichester's wife, I can't tolerate blue water sailing. And get seasick even in a dinghy. </p><p>Dogged by <a href="https://aus.social/tags/Grammarly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Grammarly</span></a> and unwritten papers.</p>
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