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argv minus one<a href="https://urusai.social/@nazokiyoubinbou" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@nazokiyoubinbou</a> Side note: shouldn't the <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/FreeDesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeDesktop</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/XDG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#XDG</a> people define a standard API for thumbnailers? From the look of things, every file manager has its own. Not great—apps can't reasonably generate thumbnails for their file formats if there isn't a standard API for doing so.There is a standard for *storage* of thumbnail images <a href="https://specifications.freedesktop.org/thumbnail-spec/latest/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://specifications.freedesktop.org/thumbnail-spec/latest/</a> but not for generating them.

Hippo 🍉In the same theme is <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Geoloquent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Geoloquent</a>, an attempt to rewrite the <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/FreeDesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeDesktop</a> geolocation API in a type-safe language :rust_ferris:<a href="https://nlnet.nl/project/Geoloquent/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://nlnet.nl/project/Geoloquent/</a>While I use <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/KaiOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KaiOS</a> on my main phone, I also carry a <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Mobian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mobian</a> device, so I'm happy for anything that'll help improve location services on there!(Side note: the <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Furiphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Furiphone</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@furilabs" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@furilabs</a> has done a good job of making a "mainline" Linux phone that works, though with the compromise of having a bit of <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> some layers down)🧵 6/n

Jeff Fortin T. (風の庭園のNekohayo)In case some of you <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FreeDesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeDesktop</a> + <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Flatpak" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Flatpak</a> security/permissions sandboxing enthusiasts have particular areas of interests within the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GNOME" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GNOME</a> portals, I have now created GitLab issue triaging labels for what seem to be the most prominent ones, that you can use or subscribe to for selective notifications :blobcatcoffee: <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/xdg-desktop-portal-gnome/-/labels?search=portal" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/xdg-desktop-portal-gnome/-/labels?search=portal</a>

Ozzie D, NP-hard :bikepump: :vegan:<a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/PetPeeve" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PetPeeve</a>: I hate that "Music" is one of the standard home folders on desktop computers. I love music, but I want it to be "Audio" -- not all audio is music (plus "audio" pairs better with "video"). When was this default established, in <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/MacOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MacOS</a> X 10.0, <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/WinNT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WinNT</a>, earlier? (I think NextStep or BeOS might have had a "Sounds" folder.) Now, seemingly every <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/desktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#desktop</a> uses this default: <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Windows</a>, <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Mac" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mac</a>, <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/FreeDesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeDesktop</a> environments (<a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/GNOME" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GNOME</a>, <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/KDE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KDE</a>), are there any exceptions? Like the <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/DesktopMetaphor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DesktopMetaphor</a> itself, we're stuck with it, even though it chafes.<a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/GUI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GUI</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/UserInterface" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UserInterface</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Legacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Legacy</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/OldManYellsAtCloud" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OldManYellsAtCloud</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/UnreasonableExpectations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UnreasonableExpectations</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:Yeah, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FreeDesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeDesktop</a> having to setup <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Anubis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Anubis</a> & close registrations really shows how toxic certain folks are... <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114742632970945770" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114742632970945770</a>

SlatianHey xdg-shell-linux fedi corner :drgn: I need some eyes on this code here: <a href="https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-utils/-/merge_requests/147" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-utils/-/merge_requests/147</a><a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.envs.net/tag/linux" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#linux</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.envs.net/tag/awk" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#awk</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.envs.net/tag/freedesktop" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#freedesktop</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.envs.net/tag/xdg" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#xdg</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.envs.net/tag/xdgutils" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#xdgutils</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.envs.net/tag/shell" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#shell</a>

Eduardo Medina 🇪🇸¿Dónde está alojado <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Wayland</a>? Pues en la instancia propia de <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GitLab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GitLab</a> de <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/freedesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#freedesktop</a>. Esto es infinitamente más coherente con los principios del <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SoftwareLibre" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SoftwareLibre</a>, le pese a quien le pese.Inestimados haters de <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/RedHat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RedHat</a>, haciendo las cosas como las hacéis no vais a ninguna parte.

BørgeWhat Linux applications has implemented the FreeDesktop/XDG background portal feature?Any torrent clients? Any apps at all actually fully supports it yet?<a href="https://tutoteket.no/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://tutoteket.no/tags/FreeDesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeDesktop</a> <a href="https://tutoteket.no/tags/XDG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#XDG</a> <a href="https://tutoteket.no/tags/XDGportal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#XDGportal</a> <a href="https://tutoteket.no/tags/BackgroundPortal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BackgroundPortal</a>

Jeff Fortin T. (風の庭園のNekohayo)As courtesy, after I was recently made to comment on qBittorrent's ticket about supporting the XDG background application status APIs (i.e. the replacement for traditional system tray icons, and more), I have now provided that kind of information to the Transmission project as well: <a href="https://github.com/transmission/transmission/issues/5484#issuecomment-2709060231" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/transmission/transmission/issues/5484#issuecomment-2709060231</a><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FreeDesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeDesktop</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Wayland</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Flatpak" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Flatpak</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a>

Thor A. Hopland<a href="https://tutoteket.no/@forteller" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@forteller</a> <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/AppImage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AppImage</a> support is still done on a per-distro basis, and it really isn't much more than setting permission and executing certain environment variables... I think. But mayhaps this is a job for ... <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/FREEDESKTOP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FREEDESKTOP</a>Hello. I'm free desktop... gief money, We craves it, WE NEEDS IT!!But yeah, maybe xdg-open should handle that problem. Then distros wouldn't need to do anything to get first rate AppImage support by removing those annoyances.One can only hope.

Xe :verified:<a href="https://chaos.social/@karolherbst" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@karolherbst</a> I just joined <a href="https://pony.social/tags/freedesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#freedesktop</a> on OFTC!

SonnyNow that the storm has passed — I can share an update on screen reader support under Wayland.As part of STF; GNOME has been working since the end of last year on resolving the matter.The main issue is that we currently lack a way to “snoop on” or “grab” key events from the compositor.We now have a draft protocol and implementation in Orca and Mutter thanks to <a href="https://toot.cafe/@matt" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@matt</a> We are doing our best to get it ready for GNOME 47.<a href="https://floss.social/tags/GNOME" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GNOME</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/a11y" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#a11y</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/freedesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#freedesktop</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Wayland</a>

BernieAnd what is <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Snap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Snap</a> doing? No idea. I kind of hate Snap for fragmenting the Linux app distribution ecosystem, but <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Ubuntu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Ubuntu</a> is still the dominant desktop distro, and can't be ignored.Are snaps using the same <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Freedesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Freedesktop</a> portals? Which sandbox do they use? Is the permission system compatible or at least similar?If we're going to fragment Linux app stores and packaging formats, we should at least try not to fragment the entire desktop security design 😭<a href="https://mastodon.social/@Corb_The_Lesser" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Corb_The_Lesser</a> <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/flatpak" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#flatpak</a> <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/flathub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#flathub</a>

Jeff Fortin T. (風の庭園のNekohayo)Me: "Obi Wan never told you why <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GNOMEShell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GNOMEShell</a> still uses the VP8 <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/codec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#codec</a> to record screencasts, instead of newer codecs…"Them: "He told me enough! He told me <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GNOME" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GNOME</a> hates its users!"Me: "No. It's mostly a temporary performance tradeoff around a <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> middleware & <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/softwarepatents" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#softwarepatents</a> problem."Them: "No… No… It's not true… That's impossible!"Me: "Search the commits log. You KNOW it to be true."Them: "DO NOT WANT"Source: <a href="https://mastodon.social/@nekohayo/112615135771775130" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://mastodon.social/@nekohayo/112615135771775130</a><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#opensource</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/freedesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#freedesktop</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/softwarefreedom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#softwarefreedom</a>

SonnyAnyone in my network interested in research and prototype network portal for Flatpak?In the long run we are interested in:• Give more control to users over app network access • Allow apps that need network access to be considered “Safe”We expect something like unsharing the network namespace and a bridge on the host for permissions / monitoring.Boost welcome :boost_love:1/2 🧵 <a href="https://floss.social/tags/FediHire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FediHire</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Flatpak" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Flatpak</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Flathub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Flathub</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Snap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Snap</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/containers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#containers</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Docker" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Docker</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/freedesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#freedesktop</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Ubuntu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Ubuntu</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Fedora" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Fedora</a>

SonnyAbout the true purpose of systemdI've been involved with <a href="https://floss.social/tags/GNOME" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GNOME</a>, <a href="https://floss.social/tags/KDE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KDE</a>, <a href="https://floss.social/tags/freedesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#freedesktop</a> and <a href="https://floss.social/tags/postmarketOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#postmarketOS</a>, ...I've met <a href="https://mastodon.social/@pid_eins" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@pid_eins</a> and other prominent figures behind closed doorsI can confirm from first-hand experience that systemd is indeed a conspiracy to make better operating systems with Linux<a href="https://floss.social/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/postmarketOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#postmarketOS</a>

निर्भीक चौहान<a href="https://mastodon.social/@hughsie" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@hughsie</a> I think you can go to <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/freedesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#freedesktop</a> on OFTC IRC (or on Matrix: <a href="https://matrix.to/#/!inzywUFmlTmVJHSfxl:matrix.org" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://matrix.to/#/!inzywUFmlTmVJHSfxl:matrix.org</a> ). That's where the sysadmins are: bentiss, daniels, etc.Or maybe it's best if you make a ticket on gitlab: <a href="https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/freedesktop/freedesktop/-/issues" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/freedesktop/freedesktop/-/issues</a>

SonnyWe are hiring contractors to work on <a href="https://floss.social/tags/GNOME" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GNOME</a> and the <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> Desktop :linux: Do you have experience working on Linux desktop technologies? Get in touch with your resume or portfolio stf@gnome.org ✉️ Some areas we are interested in hiring for:• Flatpak • Linux desktop accessibility • Freedesktop / XDG services and components • Desktop security • GNOME services and components<a href="https://floss.social/@XOrgFoundation" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@XOrgFoundation</a> <a href="https://floss.social/@kde" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@kde</a> <a href="https://floss.social/@gnome" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@gnome</a> Boosts welcome!<a href="https://floss.social/tags/freedesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#freedesktop</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/KDE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KDE</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/getFediHired" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#getFediHired</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/jobs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#jobs</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FLOSS</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSource</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/FreeSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeSoftware</a>

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