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requiem 🦫<p>My first 24 hours with the <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> 12 and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@elementary" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>elementary</span></a></span> </p><p><a href="https://jasongullickson.com/framework-12-and-elementaryos.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">jasongullickson.com/framework-</span><span class="invisible">12-and-elementaryos.html</span></a></p><p><a href="https://masto.hackers.town/tags/framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>framework12</span></a> <a href="https://masto.hackers.town/tags/elementaryos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>elementaryos</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>I wished <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> would offer a clear / transparent cased <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Framework12</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework13" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Framework13</span></a> option.</p><ul><li>Or just the 3D files to injection-mold.that one, as I'm shure they didn't do that is due to regulatory compliance.</li></ul><p>Cuz even stuff like a <a href="https://justicetechsolutions.com/products/securebook-6" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">prison laptop</a> uses metal shields to comply with EMI regulations...</p>
mike<p>The Framework 12 went together in under 10 minutes. It's just seating RAM, storage, sliding the keyboard into place, installing the USBC cards, and tightening down the case. Fedora went on to it in the time it took me to get a picture and post about it. </p><p>It's chunky and the plastic is pretty thick. There's a nice texture to the keys. The display is bright enough. I haven't even started on in on the tablet part yet. Feels very reminiscent of some Chromebooks that went hard on ruggedizing for schools.</p><p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/98806759@N00/54624617524" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">flickr.com/photos/98806759@N00</span><span class="invisible">/54624617524</span></a> <a href="https://social.lol/tags/framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>framework12</span></a> <a href="https://social.lol/tags/fedora" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fedora</span></a></p>
AndyGER :verified_coffee:<p><a href="https://troet.cafe/tags/framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>framework</span></a> <a href="https://troet.cafe/tags/laptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>laptop</span></a> <a href="https://troet.cafe/tags/tablet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tablet</span></a> <a href="https://troet.cafe/tags/convertible" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>convertible</span></a> <a href="https://troet.cafe/tags/framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>framework12</span></a> </p><p>This would be a pretty good alternative to <a href="https://troet.cafe/tags/apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>apple</span></a> hardware <a href="https://troet.cafe/tags/mac" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mac</span></a> and <a href="https://troet.cafe/tags/ipad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ipad</span></a>, I guess.</p><p>Such a device running a <a href="https://troet.cafe/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a> OS might be a thing for me in a few years ... :-) <a href="https://troet.cafe/tags/macos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>macos</span></a> <a href="https://troet.cafe/tags/ios" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ios</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://frame.work/at/de/laptop12" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">frame.work/at/de/laptop12</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
CJR<p>Interesting look at the <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> 12, by Tech-YouTuber JerryRigEverything.<br><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>framework12</span></a></p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/hJjstBT0bpw" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">youtu.be/hJjstBT0bpw</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
the magnificent rhys<p>Reviews are out and I'm hyped for mine to arrive!</p><p>I hope this begins a long future of a wide range of 2-in-1 Frameworks. I want a high-end AMD one, and I want to buy or pass on these repairable and upgradeable machines for the whole family.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.rhys.wtf/tags/framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>framework</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.rhys.wtf/tags/framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>framework12</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/review/framework-laptop-12" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">phoronix.com/review/framework-</span><span class="invisible">laptop-12</span></a></p>
🧿🪬🍄🌈🎮💻🚲🥓🎃💀🏴🛻🇺🇸<p>That Bubblegum colored one is 🔥 🏳️‍⚧️ </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>framework12</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>framework</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/laptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>laptop</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/computer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>computer</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/technology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>technology</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tech</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>arstechnica</span></a></span> propblem is that <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> / <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hardware.watch/c/framework" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>framework</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Framework</span></a> doesn't offer the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Framework12</span></a> <em>with Stylus</em> right now not even as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/preorder" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>preorder</span></a>...</p><ul><li>At least not in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a>...</li></ul>
Tinx<p>Ohi, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@FreeCAD" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>FreeCAD</span></a></span>! 👋</p><p>I have prepared a VESA mount for the upcoming <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> 12 convertible notebook computer. Still waiting for the exact measurements, though.</p><p>Two halves will probably be printed from medium or hard TPU to provide a mixture of stability and flexibility. A metal bracket added for extra security.</p><p><a href="https://jit.social/tags/FreeCAD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FreeCAD</span></a> <a href="https://jit.social/tags/FreeCADFriday" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FreeCADFriday</span></a> <a href="https://jit.social/tags/3DPrint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>3DPrint</span></a> <a href="https://jit.social/tags/Framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Framework</span></a> <a href="https://jit.social/tags/Framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Framework12</span></a></p>
Oliver Calder :ubuntu:<p>It's June! Which means Batch 1 of the <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Framework12</span></a> should be shipping this month! I really can't wait, I've been increasingly needing a lightweight machine for sheet music (tablet mode ftw) and writing from places other than my desk.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://floss.social/@jbqueru" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>jbqueru</span></a></span> Also I hope for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RISCv" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RISCv</span></a> to be the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ISA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ISA</span></a> of the future for long-term <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSourceHardware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSourceHardware</span></a> and support.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ARM64" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ARM64</span></a> - just like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/amd64" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>amd64</span></a> - is <em>yet another proprietary ISA</em> and almost all devices with it in terms of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Laptops" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Laptops</span></a> have <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AntiRepairDesign" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AntiRepairDesign</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Apple</span></a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MacBook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MacBook</span></a>|s that self-destroy their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SSD</span></a>|s which also contains it's <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EFI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EFI</span></a> / <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BridgeOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BridgeOS</span></a>"</em>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYG4VMqatEY" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">making machines with fried SSDs <em>'braindead'</em>…</a></p><p>And yes, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RAM</span></a> to also fails and making it not fully replaceable and upgradeable is inherently bad and I'm still mad at <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> for their botched <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FrameworkDesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkDesktop</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PC</span></a>!</p><ul><li>Cuz it's neither necessary nor beneficial for a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Desktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Desktop</span></a> PC, unlike with the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Framework12</span></a> where the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SoC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SoC</span></a> used only supports single channel and a single SODIMM so it makes sense for them to take that into account.</li></ul>
Liam :partyparrot:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> <br>Pre-ordered the <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>framework12</span></a> in Lavender.</p><p>Can't wait for July!!! 🎉🎉🎉</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>I mean, I'd not have any issues with a <em>"shitty"</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Netbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Netbook</span></a> if it's prized acceptable.</p><ul><li>And not €220+ for a Laptop with an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Atom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Atom</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Z8350" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Z8350</span></a> &amp; 2GB RAM and a 32GB eMMC that was €199 at lauch 10 years ago and €149 5 years ago.</li></ul><p>Cuz then I might be better off buying a used <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkPad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkPad</span></a> with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USBc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>USBc</span></a>, remove the dead battery and stap a Powerbank to it.</p><ul><li>Speaking of dead <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LaptopBatteries" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LaptopBatteries</span></a>: I propably have to mod my <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/X230tablet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>X230tablet</span></a> so I can <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DIY" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DIY</span></a> some replacement battery.</li></ul><p>Tho I'd rather start the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NUCbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NUCbook</span></a> project instead or buy a <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Framework12</span></a> instead...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@bastetfurry" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>bastetfurry</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@janet_catcus" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>janet_catcus</span></a></span> the only thing cooler would be if they did a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/transparent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>transparent</span></a> version, but I also know why they didn't and instead chose said muted colour pallet: As those are easily sourceable, child-safe (if not medical- or food-grade), and available as recycling plastics. Also said colours don't directly show ABS's yellowing under sunlight that distinctively.</p><p>Keeping costs down, compared to the high prices of optically clear, non-discoloured plastic ehich also tends to be more brittle, and also may not be an option due to the way they pulled a <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkPadnium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkPadnium</span></a>"</em> style metal reinforcement of the chassis, as they clearly worked out a mix of elastic deformation (TPU), lightweight flexing and stiffening is the way to make a machine that is more forgiving in terms of abuse without designing it to be an unwieldy, heavy industrial appliance.</p><p>So yeah, I do want to see <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> release the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Framework12</span></a> and maybe some compact <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Desktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Desktop</span></a> case that is essentially allowing to shove a Framework 12 or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework13" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Framework13</span></a> mainboard and keyboard in and have a low-footprint unit like the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RaspberryPi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RaspberryPi</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Pi400" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Pi400</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Pi500" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Pi500</span></a> units. Or just some case one can bolt onto <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VESA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VESA</span></a> mounts at a screen (similar to a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkStation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkStation</span></a> Tiny / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkCentre" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkCentre</span></a> Tiny) and use those for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Classrooms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Classrooms</span></a>.</p><p>I hope they have some nice <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Stylus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Stylus</span></a> slot &amp; lanyard option similar to the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/X230Tablet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>X230Tablet</span></a> I still daily-drive today.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@bastetfurry" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>bastetfurry</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@janet_catcus" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>janet_catcus</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> not to mention whilst tooling up for reinforced plastic is more expensive than CNC'ing aluminium or get that sheetmetal-pressed, the cost per unit goes down way easier as said plastic parts are less abrasive to tools and one set of shells can be used to injection-mould several thousand cases at a higher speed, reducing tge time and space needed per unit.</p><ul><li>Also mind you the replacement parts prices will OFC be higher than the cost of manufacturing, cuz every <em>"FRU"</em> or <em>"CRU"</em> on it's own generates a new SKU to inventory and manage, whereas just combining multiples to make a <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Framework12</span></a>"</em> unit is not adding much.</li></ul><p>OFC I do expect this thing, which is basically a modern spin on the <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IntelClassmate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IntelClassmate</span></a>" <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Laptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Laptop</span></a></em> to not have extreme high-end and be designed with a specific price point in mind.</p><ul><li>Propably do a rubbery keyboard and better ingress protection to make it more viable for handibg out to schoolchildren.</li></ul><p>Add to it that Framework isn't <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Quanta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Quanta</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Clevo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Clevo</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Foxconn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Foxconn</span></a> and we ain't talking <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MacBook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MacBook</span></a> margins, but given they didn't release specs nor MSRP but are eager to get <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/bulk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>bulk</span></a> orders from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/education" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>education</span></a> customers, that seems the trajectory they're going.</p><ul><li>Shurely they could easy do a <em>"€299"</em> offering with an N100, 128GB NVMe &amp; 8GB RAM if one were to order like 10.000 and pay upfront, but I do expect them to rather go with like a N300 instead so these devices ain't dead slow and can survive 6 years of 8x5 use in an elementary/middle school setting.</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>I really want to see <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> release the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Framework12</span></a> for a killer price...</p><p>Ideally starting something like €499 w/ tax &amp; stylus in a 1000-pack or €699 single...</p><p>Can't wait for actual specs &amp; pricing details.</p>