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@voxel personally, I despise @brave and I think it, @Vivaldi or any other #Chromium-#Fork|s are just bad to the point that I recommend using @torproject / #TorBrowser, @dillo / #dillo and #LynxBrowser over those.

  • Espechally since the #Tor Project actually care about #privacy!

I consider #Edge to be #Givware just like #MicrosoftOutlook which leaks all login details to #Microsoft!

docs.monocles.eumonocles mail - monocles Documentation

Mozilla focusing on IA, advertising, changing ToS and removing mentions to "we don't sell your data" is like Google abandoning the "don't be evil" motto.

From a privacy-first web browser fighting for a more free and open internet to just another big tech throwing their roots in the trash bin.

They were changing Firefox here and there to be more Chrome-like, and now they are changing themselves to mirror Google.

So sad, so sad.

If you're looking for alternatives:

- LibreWolf
- Fennec
- Waterfox
- Zen Browser
- Palemoon

Instead of using a Chromium-based browser, I'd suggest to keep using something based on Mozilla code.

Keep using and supporting independent developers working on Firefox forks, so we don't get even more trapped with Google code and decisions (Manifest v3, remember?).

Mozilla Firefox is officially dead.

My back is officially turned.

What options remain?

For now I'm probably going to be using Gnome Web (i.e. Epiphany) for most straightforward web browsing. It works more than well enough for the stuff I do. Mobile version for Android? Does it exist? iOS?

I'll use Vivaldi for lame "modern" sites that a "simple" browser like Epiphany can't render properly. Mobile?

We'll see how far that goes. This may be less and less of an issue. The big player sites like Google, Meta, etc. are not somewhere I tend to visit.

Banking sites are a mixed bag of necessity.

I'm about to let my Amazon Prime account lapse on its yearly renewal since I won't use them any more.

At least Vivaldi seems to be a decent organization. Technology is based on Chromium though - and this is why I haven't started using it.

I will need to investigate Vivaldi's built-in adblocking since manifest v2 isn't a thing under Chromium.

I used to care about keeping the Mozilla rendering engine alive and relevant but now not so much.

The Firefox forks I've tried have been a mixed bag of whether their new versions follow re-enabling the privacy invasive things that Mozilla upstream does when it sends out a new version.

Time to leave them behind as well I guess.

A lot will depend on how much I miss ublock origin.

If there is a mass exodus from all the Firefox based forks then ublock may cease to exist.

There's a rant in there about pi-holing all browsers but I don't have it in me ATM.

(Posted with Epiphany)

infosec.exchange/@mttaggart/11

Infosec ExchangeTaggart :donor: (@mttaggart@infosec.exchange)Firefox now has Terms of Use! This'll go over like a lead balloon. > You give Mozilla all rights necessary to operate Firefox, including processing data as we describe in the Firefox Privacy Notice, as well as acting on your behalf to help you navigate the internet. When you **upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information** to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/terms/firefox/ **Update:** See below in the thread for their clarification.
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@hon1nbo @foone yeah, but all these things would essentially necessitate a fundamentally incompatible #Fork of the #USB standard, creating #costs, #fragmentation and lessen the likelyhood of success.

  • Not to mention it'll require significant investments in #UserAwareness, #Training and would still have some issues...

I gues a sort-of "Secure HID Port" that mandates proper authentification and does full #E2EE from the Keyboard Matrix / Pointing Device controller up is an option, but you'd have to expect state-sponsored attackers willing to do "Kamikaze" Hacks...

#TLDW: It requires custom silicon and a hard root of trust

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