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Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@JessTheUnstill</a> <a href="https://mamot.fr/@bohwaz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bohwaz</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/@punkfairie" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@punkfairie</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ajsadauskas</a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/@tomiahonen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tomiahonen</a> <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> Exactly...Coincidentially, that's why <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Android</a> (and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#iOS</a>) doesn't let users have <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/root" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#root</a> access because billions of devices owned by mostly "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TechIlliterates</a>" that hardly get <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SecurityUpdates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SecurityUpdates</a> would be an even bigger risk if they didn't boot a locked-down <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ROM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ROM</a> image, thus only allowing for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/malware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#malware</a> in user-privilegued userspace!<ul><li>I'd even go so far that I'd wish for <a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@torproject</a> to basically merge fmr. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KaiOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KaiOS</a> & <a href="https://venera.social/profile/tails_live" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tails_live</a> / <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@tails" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tails</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tails" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tails</a> to build a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#privacy</a>-focussed <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ROM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ROM</a> for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Smartphones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Smartphones</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tablets" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tablets</a> i.e. "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TailsMobile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TailsMobile</a>" or sth.</li></ul>Cuz having a mobile OS that shoves everything through <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tor</a> and only allows <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/userspace" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#userspace</a>-Apps in the form modern web technologies would be a big <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/security" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#security</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#privacy</a> gain.<ul><li>Not to mention <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/amd64" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#amd64</a> is on it's way out and inevitably they gotta have to transition to supporting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/arm64" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#arm64</a> and eventually <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RISCv" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RISCv</a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/64bit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#64bit</a> at some point.</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mamot.fr/@bohwaz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bohwaz</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/@punkfairie" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@punkfairie</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ajsadauskas</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@JessTheUnstill</a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/@tomiahonen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tomiahonen</a> That's exactly the problem, cuz <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KaiOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KaiOS</a> nee <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> was a good and solid basis not just for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LowEnd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LowEnd</a>-Devices but could've been excellent for a more <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/secure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#secure</a> mobile OS, as it has good potential for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sandboxing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sandboxing</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KISS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KISS</a>-principle'd <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Apps</a> that are lean and efficient.But then again when enthusiasts like <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> and I were shouting "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney</a>!" to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a>, they basically refused to sell any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/device" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#device</a>, and then we get the "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PSvita" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PSvita</a>-Effect":<ul><li>Noone's gonna build an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/App" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#App</a> for a platform that is <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REaUzHef9h4" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">essentially a rounding error from the start!</a>…</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://indieweb.social/@punkfairie" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@punkfairie</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ajsadauskas</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@JessTheUnstill</a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/@tomiahonen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tomiahonen</a> <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> Yeah and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Symbian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Symbian</a> is used with cheap phones of a brand named <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Swisstone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Swisstone</a>.Case in point: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KaiOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KaiOS</a> nee <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> is now drowned in obscurity because of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> mismanagment and hamfisted approach compared to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Android</a>.

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ajsadauskas</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@JessTheUnstill</a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/@tomiahonen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tomiahonen</a> yes, and to add insult to injury <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> didn't even wanted to sell people like <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> or me a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> device, with the only one being "launched" in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EU</a> being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SimLock</a>'d & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NetLock</a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#prepaid</a> phone in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Spain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Spain</a> one could only attain in-store with all the "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KYC</a>" nonsense they had, demanding a legal address in Spain back then.<ul><li>So whilst Firefox OS had the most "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/accessible" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#accessible</a>" <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Development" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Development</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tools" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#tools</a> (literally using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> for it and having every <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/App" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#App</a> as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebView" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebView</a>|s / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HTML5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HTML5</a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JS5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#JS5</a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CSS3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSS3</a> files in a container), they didn't even sold us said devices, making it a worse flop than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuTouch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#UbuntuTouch</a> which at least still gets some devices made that support it...</li></ul>And <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/nerds" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#nerds</a> like myself are far from the "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/consoomer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#consoomer</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Normies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Normies</a>" for whom stuff that isn't on shelves at Staturn/MediaMarkt, BestBuy, Walmart, ... doesn't exist. I'm used to importing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#tech</a> that I want!<ul><li>Feels even more <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">half-assed</a> than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MobileCoin</a> in hindsight…</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ajsadauskas</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@JessTheUnstill</a> also <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BlackBerry" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BlackBerry</a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PlayBook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PlayBook</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tablet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tablet</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYmHId9kJP4" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">was released</a> as a accessory screen for their Phones, which gave it "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WiiU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WiiU</a>-Effect" in terms of marketing.<ul><li>Plus <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RIM</a> relying hard on business clients and their proprietary applianced mail systems and having big carriers upsell to business people made them look outdated & quite literally out of touch once <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iPhone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#iPhone</a> went mainstream.</li></ul>I mean, the hardware was never their problem and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SMS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SMS</a>-Typists swear by their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BlackberryCurve" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BlackberryCurve</a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/keyboard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#keyboard</a> but BlackBerry's <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toolchain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#toolchain</a> - just like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SymbianOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SymbianOS</a>'s - was just hideous to the point that devs like <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> didn't even want to try making <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Apps</a> for those devices.<ul><li>Unlike <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> fucking up <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> by refusing to sell devices to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/developers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#developers</a>, by the time RIM & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nokia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Nokia</a> came from their high horses, their market shares had been squeezed into mere "rounding errors" by <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#iOS</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Android</a> as it was way cheaper and easier to get <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Apps</a> developed, tested, sold, bought and use them than on their devices. </li></ul><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Sony</a> even released some <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Symbian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Symbian</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/S60" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#S60</a> devices but since they didn't have the same signing keys, one couldn't even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sideload" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sideload</a> apps (not to mention they didn't had the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OviStore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OviStore</a> on those either!)...

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://cubhub.social/@Rusty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Rusty</a> <a href="https://rubber.social/@dragonarchitect" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@dragonarchitect</a> I disagree re: webOS and FirefoxOS.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/webOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webOS</a> failed due to lack of market penetration (there was only like 1 Tablet from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#hp</a>) and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> failed because <a href="https://mastodon.social/@mozillaofficial" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@mozillaofficial</a> didn't even offer to sell devices to folks like me and <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> that wanted one.<ul><li>The only devices with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> OS in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EU</a> were a few <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NetLock</a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#prepaid</a> phones that got sold in Spain (reqiring ID for no valid reason!) and which were essentially useless for anyone outside of Spain.</li></ul>Add to that the absurdity that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> basically expected carriers (!!) to maintain and provide the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AppStore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AppStore</a>|s themselves and you get market fracturing worse than the "P.R." <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#China</a> (!!!)…It was mismanaged and self-sabotaged in the worst possible way.<ul><li>Similar to how <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OLPC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OLPC</a> never sold the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XO1" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XO1</a> in retail and didn't even offer the "Give one, Get one" deal in most places...</li></ul>The <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Duopoly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Duopoly</a> of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Android</a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#iOS</a> wasn't unavoidable, but an outcome of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfSabotage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SelfSabotage</a> and halfassed non-commitment by competitors!

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@usaryan1" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@usaryan1</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@jon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@jon</a> +9001%<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RIP</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a>, cuz <a href="https://mastodon.social/@mozillaofficial" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@mozillaofficial</a> refusing to sell <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/develooers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#develooers</a> devices made it a stillborn!<ul><li>Seriously, the only Firefox OS phone in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EU</a> was some spanish <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NetLock</a>'d & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SimLock</a>'d device that one could only get by ID'ing in-store in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Spain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Spain</a> and go through <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KYC</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SecurityTheater" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SecurityTheater</a> cuz it was sold only in a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Prepaid</a> bundle!</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://ieji.de/@etua_en" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@etua_en</a> <a href="https://mozilla.social/@mozilla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@mozilla</a> I never expected <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> to become big overnight, but I actually was shouting "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney</a>!" and they were like 'Go to Spain and get that obscure prepaid bundle and pray the carrier lets you buy an unlock code to get rid of the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NetLock</a> so you can actually use that thing!'...And that's just <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NotCool" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NotCool</a>!

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UnpopularOpinion" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#UnpopularOpinion</a>: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> was a good <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mobile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#mobile</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OS</a>, but <a href="https://mozilla.social/@mozilla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@mozilla</a> kneecapped it by not selling devices for it to those that wanted it.<ul><li>like myself!</li></ul><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_OS" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_OS</a><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FLOSS</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mobile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#mobile</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Distro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Distro</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Smartphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Smartphone</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://chaos.social/@frumble" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@frumble</a> <a href="https://mozilla.social/@mozilla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@mozilla</a> Und ja, alle <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebDevs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebDevs</a> die ich kenne waren begeistert wo <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> vorgestellt wurde weil dann ist <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Apps</a> programmieren umso einfacher und ohne Bullshit möglich...<ul><li>Doof nur dass weder ich noch <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> noch sonstwer den ich kannte je ein <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Firefox</a>-OS - Gerät kaufen konnten, egal wieviel es gekostet hätte.</li></ul>Die einzigen FirefoxOS-Geräte in der <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EU</a> waren <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SimLock</a>'d / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NetLock</a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Prepaid</a>-Handys die nur in Spanien bei Telefonica nur als Bundle mit SIM in Shops verkauft wurden!

Simon D. ⏚My dreams for <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> :A lightweight Firefox edition (in the spirit of XFCE and MX Linux, 100% written in Rust). That was Firefox back in 2004.- Built-in Multi-account container addon on a window base (new window, new container). - Built-in Temporary containers addon. - Built-in LocalCDN addon.Mobile <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> / boot2gecko back. We need open hardware and free softwares in our pockets.Mozilla crawled, ad-free, web search engine (this has proven useful while cryptocurrencies nor AI did).

Daniel AppelquistCame into the office in my <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> hoodie. Some engineers asked me “what was Firefox OS?” Oh boy. Let me tell you a story.

Aral BalkanImagine if Mozilla were what it says it is and had released Firefox OS under GPL…Instead, they did the research and development (with some of your money, if you donate to them) for a third-party company to come and close it off in a commercial product. Oh and for their patron, Google, to invest $20 million on top to create closed “smart feature phones” to farm the data of the <strike>poors</strike> “next five billion.”*golf claps*<a href="https://tuxphones.com/smart-feature-phones-revolution-kai-os/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tuxphones.com/smart-feature-phones-revolution-kai-os/</a><a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/kaiOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#kaiOS</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/firefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#firefoxOS</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#mozilla</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/bigTech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bigTech</a>

Matěj Cepl 🇪🇺 🇨🇿 🇺🇦<a href="https://hachyderm.io/@timbray" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@timbray</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/@raph" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@raph</a> I like <a href="https://github.com/tonsky/FiraCode" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/tonsky/FiraCode</a> , because I used FIra with <a href="https://floss.social/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> (who even knows what it was?).

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