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Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://hachyderm.io/@glitzersachen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@glitzersachen</a> <a href="https://mstdn.ca/@leanlearnlead" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@leanlearnlead</a> granted the faster a battery is charged, the less efficient it is and the more straining it is on the battery chemistry.<ul><li>That's an <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB9EARKvCTc&t=3m51s" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">inherent problem</a> with any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BatteryElectricVehicle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BatteryElectricVehicle</a> and the reason why (electrochemically produced!) <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Methanol</a> (doesn't require high-pressure-systems like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Hydrogen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Hydrogen</a>!) & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuelCells" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FuelCells</a> are the superior solution longterm, as those solves the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyDensity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EnergyDensity</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ChargingSpeed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ChargingSpeed</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyStorage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EnergyStorage</a> problems whilst allowing the replacement and conversion of emergency power sources to the use of a renewable fuel.</li></ul> But aside from that, there's no reason why <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BEV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BEV</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Charging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Charging</a> needs to be more complex than these few steps;<code>1.</code> plug in the vehicle with a CCS2 plug <code>2.</code> select the amount of kWh / money one.wants to spend. (being able to abort if the energy price is abdurdly high!) <code>3.</code> pay with card (NFC+PIN). <code>4.</code> upon payment confirmation, the vehucle gets charged and the charging station shows an estimated completion timer & offers sending a notification via eMail or SMS. <code>5.</code> Once completed, the charging station will unlock the plug/socket and send said notification out. In the meantime another customer could just pull the unlocked plug and start their charging.Just like on a (abeit slow) gas pump!

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mastodon.social/@burger_jaap" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@burger_jaap</a> the fact that there isn't <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mandatory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mandatory</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Transparency" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Transparency</a> like with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Gasoline" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Gasoline</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Prices" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Prices</a> (which have to be reported to <a href="https://social.bund.de/@BMWK" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@BMWK</a> and @Kartellamt@social.bund.de) is a problem.<ul><li>Given the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyDensity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EnergyDensity</a>, this makes having or driving a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BEV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BEV</a> even more expensive if one doesn't have a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Wallbox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Wallbox</a> (i.e. being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tennant" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tennant</a> with no parking space that is allowed to have that as per fire code)...</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://climatejustice.social/@KarlHeinzHasliP" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@KarlHeinzHasliP</a> <a href="https://mastodontech.de/@denki" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@denki</a> Personally, I think that standardized <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/batteries" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#batteries</a> that get swapped would've been the solution to the charging speed problem.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BEV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BEV</a>|s are a problem and the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyDensity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EnergyDensity</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Charging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Charging</a> problems are hard walls that can only be circumvented (i.e. swapping fluids at a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RedoxFlow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RedoxFlow</a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Battery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Battery</a>) or ignored (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Methanol</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuelCell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FuelCell</a>)...<ul><li>Personally, I think <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trolleybuses" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Trolleybuses</a> are <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB9EARKvCTc&t=3m45s" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">the best option</a> if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Trams</a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trains" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Trains</a> ain't feasible (i.e. steep grates like in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Solingen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Solingen</a>) and the few edgecases that'll never get 24/7 once per hour bus service or even an on-call minibus need to get more efficient without <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ConflictMinerals" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ConflictMinerals</a> from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UnfairTrade" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UnfairTrade</a> (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cobalt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Cobalt</a>) and destruction of unique habitats (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lithium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Lithium</a>)...</li></ul>Solving the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyProblem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EnergyProblem</a> isn't a technological issue, but a political one (see <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DESERTEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DESERTEC</a>)...

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://infosec.space/@CppGuy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@CppGuy</a> One word: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tetraetyllead" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Tetraetyllead</a><ul><li>But fear not, when a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BEV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BEV</a>'s battery has a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThermalRunoff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThermalRunoff</a> (cuz they use shitty <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiCo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LiCo</a> ( <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiPo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LiPo</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiIon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LiIon</a>) and not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiFePO4" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LiFePO4</a>) they'll release a white cloud of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FluoricAcid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FluoricAcid</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/vapours" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#vapours</a> and then start a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MetalFire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MetalFire</a> that is basically "unextinguishable" (as in the only proven strategy is to throw dry sandbags in it and hope it glasses itself like the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ElephantsFoot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ElephantsFoot</a> from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Chornobyl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Chornobyl</a>...</li></ul>IMHO it'll be inevitable that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Methanol</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuelCell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FuelCell</a>-based <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EV</a>|s will be the future simply because: 1.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lithium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Lithium</a> is scarce & expensive 2.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/refueling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#refueling</a> will always be faster than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/charging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#charging</a> 3.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyDensity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EnergyDensity</a> of Methanol exceeds that of any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/battery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#battery</a> 4.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FussilFuel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FussilFuel</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Corporations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Corporations</a> can simply switchover pumps and flex their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EconomyOfScale" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EconomyOfScale</a> and existing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Logistics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Logistics</a> to flood the market with cheap Methanol even if it has to be made 100% sustainable and without any fossil resources. 5.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyStorage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EnergyStorage</a> is another problem and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuelCells" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FuelCells</a> can replace both <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EmergencyPower" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EmergencyPower</a> systems running if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Diesel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Diesel</a> as well as the average <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gasoline" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#gasoline</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/generator" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#generator</a>.Not to mention there needs to be <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SystemChangeNotClimateChange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SystemChangeNotClimateChange</a> and that necessitates way better <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PublicTransport" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PublicTransport</a>, regardless if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trains" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Trains</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Trams</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trolleybuses" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Trolleybuses</a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuelcellBuses" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FuelcellBuses</a> (in that order)...<ul><li>Otherwise shit won't change.</li></ul>OFC what any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BEVs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BEVs</a> won't fix is the fact that most particle emissions are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tire</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/brake" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#brake</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/dust" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#dust</a>...<ul><li>And those are inherebtly unavoidable.unless we want to sacrifice <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RoadSafety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RoadSafety</a>!</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://beach.city/@pandora_parrot" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@pandora_parrot</a> yes and besides that I think <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BatteryElectricVehicles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BatteryElectricVehicles</a> will also die out again because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuelCells" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FuelCells</a> using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Methanol</a> at ambient temperature & pressure solve the "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/charging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#charging</a>" and "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/battery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#battery</a>" problems elegantly.<ul><li>Also the huge amounts of expensive <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UnfairTrade" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UnfairTrade</a> minerals like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lithium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Lithium</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cobalt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Cobalt</a> as well as poor <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FireSafety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FireSafety</a> of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiIon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LiIon</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiCo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LiCo</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiPo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LiPo</a> cells with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiFePO4" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LiFePO4</a> having noticeable lower vapacity and cell voltage makes it less attractive, cuz even if we assume a mere 30% efficiency (on par with naturally aspirated, fully-mechanical gasoline engines) tue <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyDensity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EnergyDensity</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/range" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#range</a> with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Methanol</a> easily beats even the most expensive and high-tech battery cells, including some hot sodium-sulphur cells that are at ~ 400°C during operation... </li></ul>Also espechally in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#USA</a> and other places, people usually choose a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/car" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#car</a> to reach longer distances that have no <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PublicTransport" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PublicTransport</a>, thus <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EV</a>'s may force them to a healther driving habit and regular stops, but that's seen as really inconvenient because it extends the trip time...

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mycrowd.ca/users/walnut" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@walnut</a> <a href="https://masto.canadiancivil.com/@reece" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@reece</a> <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/@simonbp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@simonbp</a> I know <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiFePO4" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LiFePO4</a> doesn't use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cobalt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Cobalt</a>, but at the cost of lower <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyDensity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EnergyDensity</a>. The core problem is that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Batteries" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Batteries</a> are bad for fast energy transfers (espechally since the car industry refuses to standardize battery swap technology so one can charge them slower = moreefficienty!) and that the Energy density still sucks, their production is extremely energy-intensive and the volumetric energy density is still shit.<ul><li>Thus to me it seems rather unavoidable that we go with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuelCells" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FuelCells</a> using i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Methanol</a> just because the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/scalability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#scalability</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/handling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#handling</a> of it is straightforward and that it'll leverage existing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/infrastructure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#infrastructure</a> like that of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GasStation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GasStation</a> pumps.</li></ul>

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