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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@glitzersachen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>glitzersachen</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.ca/@leanlearnlead" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>leanlearnlead</span></a></span> granted the faster a battery is charged, the less efficient it is and the more straining it is on the battery chemistry.</p><ul><li>That's an <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB9EARKvCTc&amp;t=3m51s" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">inherent problem</a> with any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BatteryElectricVehicle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BatteryElectricVehicle</span></a> and the reason why (electrochemically produced!) <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a> (doesn't require high-pressure-systems like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Hydrogen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Hydrogen</span></a>!) &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuelCells" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FuelCells</span></a> are the superior solution longterm, as those solves the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyDensity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EnergyDensity</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ChargingSpeed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ChargingSpeed</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyStorage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EnergyStorage</span></a> problems whilst allowing the replacement and conversion of emergency power sources to the use of a renewable fuel.</li></ul> <p>But aside from that, there's no reason why <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BEV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BEV</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Charging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Charging</span></a> needs to be more complex than these few steps;</p><p><code>1.</code> plug in the vehicle with a CCS2 plug<br><code>2.</code> select the amount of kWh / money one.wants to spend. (being able to abort if the energy price is abdurdly high!)<br><code>3.</code> pay with card (NFC+PIN).<br><code>4.</code> upon payment confirmation, the vehucle gets charged and the charging station shows an estimated completion timer &amp; offers sending a notification via eMail or SMS.<br><code>5.</code> Once completed, the charging station will unlock the plug/socket and send said notification out. In the meantime another customer could just pull the unlocked plug and start their charging.</p><p>Just like on a (abeit slow) gas pump!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@burger_jaap" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>burger_jaap</span></a></span> the fact that there isn't <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mandatory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mandatory</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Transparency" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Transparency</span></a> like with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Gasoline" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Gasoline</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Prices" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Prices</span></a> (which have to be reported to <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.bund.de/@BMWK" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>BMWK</span></a></span> and @Kartellamt@social.bund.de) is a problem.</p><ul><li>Given the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyDensity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EnergyDensity</span></a>, this makes having or driving a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BEV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BEV</span></a> even more expensive if one doesn't have a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Wallbox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Wallbox</span></a> (i.e. being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tennant" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tennant</span></a> with no parking space that is allowed to have that as per fire code)...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://climatejustice.social/@KarlHeinzHasliP" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>KarlHeinzHasliP</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodontech.de/@denki" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>denki</span></a></span> Personally, I think that standardized <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/batteries" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>batteries</span></a> that get swapped would've been the solution to the charging speed problem.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BEV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BEV</span></a>|s are a problem and the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyDensity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EnergyDensity</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Charging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Charging</span></a> problems are hard walls that can only be circumvented (i.e. swapping fluids at a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RedoxFlow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RedoxFlow</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Battery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Battery</span></a>) or ignored (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuelCell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FuelCell</span></a>)...</p><ul><li>Personally, I think <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trolleybuses" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trolleybuses</span></a> are <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB9EARKvCTc&amp;t=3m45s" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">the best option</a> if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trams</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trains" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trains</span></a> ain't feasible (i.e. steep grates like in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Solingen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Solingen</span></a>) and the few edgecases that'll never get 24/7 once per hour bus service or even an on-call minibus need to get more efficient without <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ConflictMinerals" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ConflictMinerals</span></a> from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UnfairTrade" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UnfairTrade</span></a> (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cobalt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cobalt</span></a>) and destruction of unique habitats (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lithium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Lithium</span></a>)...</li></ul><p>Solving the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyProblem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EnergyProblem</span></a> isn't a technological issue, but a political one (see <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DESERTEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DESERTEC</span></a>)...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@CppGuy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>CppGuy</span></a></span> One word: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tetraetyllead" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tetraetyllead</span></a></p><ul><li>But fear not, when a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BEV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BEV</span></a>'s battery has a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThermalRunoff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ThermalRunoff</span></a> (cuz they use shitty <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiCo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LiCo</span></a> ( <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiPo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LiPo</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiIon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LiIon</span></a>) and not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiFePO4" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LiFePO4</span></a>) they'll release a white cloud of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FluoricAcid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FluoricAcid</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/vapours" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>vapours</span></a> and then start a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MetalFire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MetalFire</span></a> that is basically <em>"unextinguishable"</em> (as in the only proven strategy is to throw dry sandbags in it and hope it glasses itself like the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ElephantsFoot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ElephantsFoot</span></a> from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Chornobyl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Chornobyl</span></a>...</li></ul><p>IMHO it'll be inevitable that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuelCell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FuelCell</span></a>-based <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EV</span></a>|s will be the future simply because:<br>1.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lithium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Lithium</span></a> is scarce &amp; expensive<br>2.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/refueling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>refueling</span></a> will always be faster than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/charging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>charging</span></a><br>3.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyDensity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EnergyDensity</span></a> of Methanol exceeds that of any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/battery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>battery</span></a><br>4.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FussilFuel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FussilFuel</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Corporations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Corporations</span></a> can simply switchover pumps and flex their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EconomyOfScale" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EconomyOfScale</span></a> and existing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Logistics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Logistics</span></a> to flood the market with cheap Methanol <em>even if it has to be made 100% sustainable and without any fossil resources</em>.<br>5.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyStorage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EnergyStorage</span></a> is another problem and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuelCells" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FuelCells</span></a> can replace both <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EmergencyPower" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EmergencyPower</span></a> systems running if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Diesel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Diesel</span></a> as well as the average <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gasoline" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gasoline</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/generator" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>generator</span></a>.</p><p>Not to mention there needs to be <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SystemChangeNotClimateChange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SystemChangeNotClimateChange</span></a> and that necessitates way better <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PublicTransport" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PublicTransport</span></a>, regardless if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trains" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trains</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trams</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trolleybuses" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trolleybuses</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuelcellBuses" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FuelcellBuses</span></a> (in that order)...</p><ul><li>Otherwise shit won't change.</li></ul><p>OFC what any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BEVs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BEVs</span></a> won't fix is the fact that most particle emissions are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tire</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/brake" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>brake</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/dust" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>dust</span></a>...</p><ul><li>And those are inherebtly unavoidable.unless we want to sacrifice <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RoadSafety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RoadSafety</span></a>!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://beach.city/@pandora_parrot" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>pandora_parrot</span></a></span> yes and besides that I think <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BatteryElectricVehicles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BatteryElectricVehicles</span></a> will also die out again because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuelCells" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FuelCells</span></a> using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a> at ambient temperature &amp; pressure solve the <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/charging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>charging</span></a>"</em> and <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/battery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>battery</span></a>"</em> problems elegantly.</p><ul><li>Also the huge amounts of expensive <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UnfairTrade" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UnfairTrade</span></a> minerals like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lithium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Lithium</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cobalt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cobalt</span></a> as well as poor <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FireSafety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FireSafety</span></a> of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiIon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LiIon</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiCo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LiCo</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiPo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LiPo</span></a> cells with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiFePO4" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LiFePO4</span></a> having noticeable lower vapacity and cell voltage makes it less attractive, cuz even if we assume a mere 30% efficiency (on par with naturally aspirated, fully-mechanical gasoline engines) tue <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyDensity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EnergyDensity</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/range" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>range</span></a> with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a> easily beats even the most expensive and high-tech battery cells, including some hot sodium-sulphur cells that are at ~ 400°C during operation... </li></ul><p>Also espechally in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a> and other places, people usually choose a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/car" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>car</span></a> to reach longer distances that have no <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PublicTransport" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PublicTransport</span></a>, thus <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EV</span></a>'s may force them to a healther driving habit and regular stops, but that's seen as really inconvenient because it extends the trip time...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mycrowd.ca/users/walnut" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>walnut</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://masto.canadiancivil.com/@reece" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>reece</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.linux.pizza/@simonbp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>simonbp</span></a></span> I know <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiFePO4" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LiFePO4</span></a> doesn't use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cobalt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cobalt</span></a>, but at the cost of lower <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyDensity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EnergyDensity</span></a>. </p><p>The core problem is that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Batteries" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Batteries</span></a> are bad for fast energy transfers (espechally since the car industry refuses to standardize battery swap technology so one can charge them slower = moreefficienty!) <em>and</em> that the Energy density still sucks, their production is extremely energy-intensive and the volumetric energy density is still shit.</p><ul><li>Thus to me it seems rather unavoidable that we go with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuelCells" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FuelCells</span></a> using i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Methanol</span></a> just because the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/scalability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>scalability</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/handling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>handling</span></a> of it is straightforward and that it'll leverage existing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/infrastructure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>infrastructure</span></a> like that of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GasStation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GasStation</span></a> pumps.</li></ul>
IT News<p>Aqueous Battery Solves Lithium’s Problems - The demand for grid storage ramps up as more renewable energy sources comes online... - <a href="https://hackaday.com/2024/01/04/aqueous-battery-solves-lithiums-problems/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">hackaday.com/2024/01/04/aqueou</span><span class="invisible">s-battery-solves-lithiums-problems/</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/chemistryhacks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>chemistryhacks</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/manganeseoxide" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>manganeseoxide</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/energydensity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>energydensity</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/batteryhacks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>batteryhacks</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/manganese" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>manganese</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/palladium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>palladium</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/catalyst" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>catalyst</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/hydrogen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>hydrogen</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/lithium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>lithium</span></a></p>