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Aral BalkanNew Kitten release• Now leaves <style> tags within <template> tags alone when collating and normalising the CSS on a page so as not to interfere with scoped styles in declarative shadow DOM.(Kitten’s Streaming HTML workflow¹ – which uses htmx and WebSockets under the hood – combined with built-in support for slots, etc., in Kitten components² means the use of declarative shadow DOM is mostly useful if you want scoped styles. Ideally, of course, use classes to scope styles to your components and be specific in your CSS selectors in general so as not to pollute elements in your components. Although that’s a bit like saying you should floss everyday. Yeah, we all know we should…) :)Update: All that said, I’d highly recommend you don’t use Shadow DOM in your Kitten apps. For one thing, htmx’s WebSocket extension doesn’t seem to play well with it. And for another, you really don’t need it and definitely not just to get scoped CSS.Enjoy!:kitten:💕¹ <a href="https://kitten.small-web.org/tutorials/streaming-html/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://kitten.small-web.org/tutorials/streaming-html/</a> ² <a href="https://kitten.small-web.org/tutorials/components-and-fragments/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://kitten.small-web.org/tutorials/components-and-fragments/</a><a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/Kitten" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Kitten</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/SmallWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SmallWeb</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/SmallTech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SmallTech</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/CSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSS</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/CSSScoping" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSSScoping</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/ShadowDOM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ShadowDOM</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/shadowRoot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#shadowRoot</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/DOM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DOM</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/HTML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HTML</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/JavaScript" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#JavaScript</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/JS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#JS</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/style" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#style</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/template" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#template</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/declarativeShadowDOM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#declarativeShadowDOM</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/NodeJS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NodeJS</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/web" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#web</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/dev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#dev</a>

🧿🪬🍄🌈🎮💻🚲🥓🎃💀🏴🛻🇺🇸Using <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeclarativeShadowDOM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DeclarativeShadowDOM</a> to render placeholder content that gets replaced later as the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HTML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HTML</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/streams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#streams</a> in with no <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/JavaScript" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#JavaScript</a>!<a href="https://lamplightdev.com/blog/2024/01/10/streaming-html-out-of-order-without-javascript/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://lamplightdev.com/blog/2024/01/10/streaming-html-out-of-order-without-javascript/</a>This is an interesting technique, but it has limitations in that you can't close the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/customElement" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#customElement</a> until you've loaded the content.<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/webDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webDev</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/shadowDom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#shadowDom</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/webComponents" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webComponents</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/customElements" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#customElements</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/http" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#http</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/streaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#streaming</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/web" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#web</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/frontend" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#frontend</a>

westbrook<a href="https://front-end.social/@mia" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@mia</a> Is DSD new syntax still?Ok, maybe. It's targeted for <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#firefox</a> in the next couple of version, which is gonna be 🔥 <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/declarativeShadowDOM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#declarativeShadowDOM</a>

Doug Parker 🕸️<a href="https://mastodon.social/@westbrook" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@westbrook</a> Can I <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/SSR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SSR</a> that with <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/DeclarativeShadowDom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DeclarativeShadowDom</a>?

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