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Bhante Subharo :xmpp:<a href="https://c.im/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> enthusiasts out there: what would you say the ultimate Achilles heel of the XMPP ecosystem is, at present? Fragmentation of clients? What?My sense is that it's this: when one goes to store an XMPP address in one's addressbook, there doesn't seem to be standard way to store an XMPP address. <a href="https://c.im/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Android</a> doesn't have that as an allowable field, and <a href="https://c.im/tags/Thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Thunderbird</a> and <a href="https://c.im/tags/Nextcloud" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Nextcloud</a> have an "Instant Messaging" field, where the type can be set to "XMPP". But are these two compatible with each other when trying to sync between them? Edit: Yes, but there's a catch: *the XMPP address must be prefixed with "xmpp:"*So "user@foo.bar" is not an OK XMPP address, but "<a href="xmpp:user@foo.bar" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">xmpp:user@foo.bar</a>" is.Then to make matters worse, now there's a wish to change the labeling of "XMPP Address" to "Chat ID": <a href="https://gultsch.social/@daniel/114012904576436518" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://gultsch.social/@daniel/114012904576436518</a>It might be a long time before the address synchy-ness ever works again between Android <-> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Davx5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Davx5</a> <-> Nextcloud <->ThunderbirdNote: Android allows a "Jabber" type for an IM address, where you *don't* prefix the address with "xmpp:". (<a href="https://c.im/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a> gets to gloat hard here, as they have plain-old email addresses)<a href="https://c.im/tags/prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#prosody</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/conversations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#conversations</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#gajim</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/dino" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#dino</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/snikket" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#snikket</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/monocles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#monocles</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/monal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#monal</a>

Obiwan2208<a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@jon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@jon</a> 1. Vivaldi 😎 2. Protonmail and Vivaldi. AquaMail in Android. 3. Protonmail and Vivaldi 4. MS Office (evaluating switch) 5. N/A 6. Desktop: W10 PRO / Laptop: Linux Mint 7. <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/VivaldiSocial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#VivaldiSocial</a>👌 , BlueSky and Reddit.In addition, My video platform is <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Vimeo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Vimeo</a>, although I keep in touch with YT videos via <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/FreeTube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FreeTube</a> (no login required, Invidious servers).My mobile has <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/GrapheneOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GrapheneOS</a> w/out GApps. My 2nd mobile (testing purposes) has <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/LineageOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LineageOS</a> w/out GApps.For Calendar I use <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/OneCalendar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OneCalendar</a> which handle CalDAV directly, <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/betterprivacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#betterprivacy</a> 'cause doesn't use phone calendar. And Contacts are synced via <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/DAVx5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DAVx5</a>. App updates are done via <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Obtainium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Obtainium</a> and <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Aurora" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Aurora</a>.I erased my Google account on 7th January I erased my Twitter accounts I erased my Whatsapp account I erased my Facebook accountAs far you see my hand doesn't tremble with <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/BigTech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BigTech</a>, Cap'n

Bob Jonkman<a href="https://mas.to/@tezoatlipoca" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tezoatlipoca</a>Found 'em!<a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/DAVx5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DAVx5</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/ICSx5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ICSx5</a> app devs are <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@davx5app" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@davx5app</a><a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/Etar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Etar</a> calendar devs don't appear to be in the Fediverse after all...And everyone already knows about <a href="https://mastodon.xyz/@nextcloud" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@nextcloud</a>, right?

Bob Jonkman<a href="https://mas.to/@tezoatlipoca" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tezoatlipoca</a>I use <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/DAVx5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DAVx5</a> to retrieve <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/CalDAV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CalDAV</a> enabled calendars (eg. on my own server running <a href="https://mastodon.xyz/@nextcloud" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@nextcloud</a> ) and <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/ICSx5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ICSx5</a> for other read-only calendars, eg. Google or MeetUp[*]. Both sync seamlessly with the native Android calendar, or other calendar apps such as <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/Etar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Etar</a>.I'm pretty sure the DAVx5/ICSx5 and Etar developers are in the Fediverse, but search is so awful...[*] I haven't used MeetUp in years, it's just an example.

fedithom<a href="https://social.saarland/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#foss</a> Projekte, denen ich beim nächsten positiven Kontostand mal nennenswert was spenden will, weil ich den Kram wirklich intensiv und gerne nutze (unvollständige Liste) <a href="https://social.saarland/tags/JellyFin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#JellyFin</a> <a href="https://social.saarland/tags/DAVx5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DAVx5</a> <a href="https://social.saarland/tags/Social" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Social</a>.SaarlandJemand noch Vorschläge? Ich hab sicher viel vergessen.

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