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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.bau-ha.us/@squirrel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>squirrel</span></a></span> people like you are a Problem!</p><p>Just in case you didn't get it:</p><ul><li><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.anoxinon.de/@Codeberg" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Codeberg</span></a></span> isn't a <em>"utility"</em> like power, drinking water, sewage and public transport or road access. Access and useage of their services is a <em>privilegue</em> not a (human or civil) right!</p></li><li><p>Every platform has their rules!</p></li><li><p>Just because a big group or even majority has a certain political alignment doesn't make it less wrong or illegtimate. Raising the right arm at a 45° elevation was shit before 1933 and 1945; Just because something may not be criminalized by law doesn't make it less wrong!</p></li><li><p>You are free to choose a different platform anytime!</p></li><li><p>Noone is obligated to host things that violate their ToS and/or Code of Conduct. Or would you demand to sell Beef Burgers at a Vegan Festival and Pork Sausages in Jerusalem? </p></li><li><p><em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FreezePeach" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FreezePeach</span></a>"</em> doesn't mean <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ConsequenceFreeSpeech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ConsequenceFreeSpeech</span></a>"</em>!</p></li></ul><p><a href="https://xkcd.com/1357/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">xkcd.com/1357/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.coop/@eloquence" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>eloquence</span></a></span> In fact I <em>do hope</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TaylorSwift" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TaylorSwift</span></a> gets some legal experts (i.e. <a href="https://wbs.legal" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">wbs.legal</span><span class="invisible"></span></a>) on that case and sue the account for defamation and <em>"false suspicion"</em> (as the image falsefully accuses her of a literal <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/felony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>felony</span></a> [at least in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/France" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>France</span></a> and many other places that don't do <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ConsequenceFreeSpeech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ConsequenceFreeSpeech</span></a> "</em>)...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.nz/@neoteotihuacan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>neoteotihuacan</span></a></span> the problem are people and what they do to other people, not whether they use <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a website</a> or a self-loader.</p><ul><li>AR-15 are not <em>"assualt rifles"</em> and there have been no legally <em>transferables</em> involved in any mass shooting since at least 2000 AFAIK.</li></ul><p>And yes, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KiwiFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KiwiFarms</span></a> is a real problem, cuz <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FreezePeach" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FreezePeach</span></a>"</em> aka. <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ConsequenceFreeSpeech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ConsequenceFreeSpeech</span></a></em> fans are terrorizing people!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@HasnainKazim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>HasnainKazim</span></a></span> ja, denn da hilft nur <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Konsequenzen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Konsequenzen</span></a> rechtsstaatlicher Natur!</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NotLegalAdvice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NotLegalAdvice</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Verantwortung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Verantwortung</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NSAfD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NSAfD</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FreezePeach" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FreezePeach</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ConsequenceFreeSpeech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ConsequenceFreeSpeech</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@nceladean" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nceladean</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@stux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>stux</span></a></span> *nodds in agreement... </p><p>They don't want <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FreezePeach" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FreezePeach</span></a>"</em> but <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ConsequenceFreeSpeech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ConsequenceFreeSpeech</span></a> because most people would react to them from shaking their head and leaving to getting smacked in the head and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXN8_mpboiM" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">memed</a>... </p><p>Obviously the latter one is to discourage for <em>obvious legal reasons</em>... </p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NotLegalAdvice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NotLegalAdvice</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sarcasm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Sarcasm</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@LukaszOlejnik" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>LukaszOlejnik</span></a></span> given that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitter</span></a> has been an integral part if the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Bolsonaro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bolsonaro</span></a>|ist <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CoupAttempt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CoupAttempt</span></a> and they refuse to name a local <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/representative" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>representative</span></a> nor <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/moderate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>moderate</span></a> that is an expectable reaction...</p><ul><li><em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FreezePeach" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FreezePeach</span></a> doesn't mean <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ConsequenceFreeSpeech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ConsequenceFreeSpeech</span></a>!</em></li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@gwynnion" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gwynnion</span></a></span> <em>EXACTLY THAT</em> is the problem!</p><ul><li><em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FreezePeach" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FreezePeach</span></a>"</em> doesn't mean <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ConsequenceFreeSpeech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ConsequenceFreeSpeech</span></a></em>!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@nicholas_saunders" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nicholas_saunders</span></a></span> basically advocating for violence in a fashion that makes followers of said propagandist do it without being directly attributed to them...</p><p>Kinda like wishing someone bad so followers feel inclined to make it happen...</p><p>OFC that works most effectively in places like the USA where <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ConsequenceFreeSpeech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ConsequenceFreeSpeech</span></a>"</em> is the norm... </p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_terrorism" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochast</span><span class="invisible">ic_terrorism</span></a></p>
OS/1337<p>Another reason why "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PublicDomain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PublicDomain</span></a>" is a problem but <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/0BSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>0BSD</span></a> isn't is because not every juristiction acknowledges or accepts Public Domain.</p><p>For example in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a>, where the head maintainer resides. there is no such thing as "Public Domain" but only "Lapsed Copyrights*".</p><p>Otherwise it would be impossible to prosecute authors of obvious <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hatespeech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>hatespeech</span></a>, cuz not every place agrees with the U.S. principle of what is essentially "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ConsequenceFreeSpeech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ConsequenceFreeSpeech</span></a>", not "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FreeSpeech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FreeSpeech</span></a>"...<br> <br> <br>Again:<br>We don't make the rules, we've to follow them whether we like them or not!</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkJkyMuBm3g&amp;t=2107s" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=MkJkyMuBm3</span><span class="invisible">g&amp;t=2107s</span></a> video via <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.lfx.dev/@linuxfoundation" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>linuxfoundation</span></a></span> feat. <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.jp/@landley" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>landley</span></a></span> </p><p>* which hasn't lapsed yet for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SteamboatWillie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SteamboatWillie</span></a> there because as per bilateral agreements, Copyrights don't lapse till 70 years past the death of the authors and that applies for U.S. works to - in return German Residents don't need to file for Copyright because that's inherently granted at creation and thus also applies in the USA!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@GreenFire" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>GreenFire</span></a></span> After all, "<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/FreeSpeech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FreeSpeech</span></a>" does not mean <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/ConsequenceFreeSpeech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ConsequenceFreeSpeech</span></a>...</p><p>Nobody prevents anyone from comitting felonies, they'd just have to accept <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/ForeseeableConseqiences" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ForeseeableConseqiences</span></a> to kick in sooner or later...</p><p>And I think that needs to be done in the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a> as well...</p><p>But hey, with a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Insurrevtionist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Insurrevtionist</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/HighTreasonist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HighTreasonist</span></a> still neither charged nor even arrested, the U.S. is already beyond comedy and tragedy...</p>