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Location location location!
Why are people on #socialmedia so coy about location? Landscapes - not stated. Beautiful produce from your garden - not stated. A beach view - not stated. Last night's weather - not stated. And especially #alttext - ooh I cannot possibly say where this lovely flower was seen!

Am I alone being fascinated by geography and places where cool things are, and I find it weird that people have this kind of geospatial taboo.

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@VeroniqueB99 #AltText

Kim Schwan @KimSchwan

Me: I have trans friends, Muslim friends, gay friends, friends of all races and nationalities.

Friend: What about conservative friends?

Me: *shifts uncomfortably* I mean, I don't agree with their lifestyle... It's a choice, you know. But they should keep it behind closed doors.

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@-0--1- @David G. Smith Still, first of all, if I posted an image without an alt-text (which I'd never do), AltBot would have to assume full admin rights over the Hubzilla channel that I'm currently commenting from because that's the only way for another Fediverse actor to alter the source code of my posts.

Altering the source code of the post is necessary because Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte neither have a dedicated alt-text field, nor are images file attachments there. Rather, images are embedded directly into the post, in-line, just the same way blogs handle images. And alt-text has to be woven into the image-embedding code in the post. Thus, the post itself has to be altered.

So, assuming AltBot actually manages to circumvent the two most advanced permissions systems in the Fediverse, it would have to trace back an image that it perceives as a file attachment to where exactly the embedding code for that particular image is in the post.

It would have to be able to both understand and write the specific flavour of BBcode used by Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte.

It would have to, for example, take this piece of code...
[zrl=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/photos/jupiter_rowland/image/b1e7bf9c-07d8-45b6-90bb-f43e27199295][zmg=800x533]https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/photo/b1e7bf9c-07d8-45b6-90bb-f43e27199295-2.jpg[/zmg][/zrl]
...and edit it into this.
[zrl=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/photos/jupiter_rowland/image/b1e7bf9c-07d8-45b6-90bb-f43e27199295][zmg=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/photo/b1e7bf9c-07d8-45b6-90bb-f43e27199295-2.jpg]Digital shaded rendering of the main building of the Universal Campus, a downloadable island location for 3-D virtual worlds based on OpenSimulator. The camera position is about three metres or ten feet above the ground. The camera is tilted slightly upward and rotated slightly to the left from the building's longitudinal axis. The futuristic building is over 200 metres long, stretching far into the distance, and its front is about 50 metres wide. Its structure is mostly textured to resemble brushed stainless steel, and almost everything in-between is grey tinted glass. The main entrance of the building in the middle of the front has two pairs of glass doors. They are surrounded by a massive complex geometrical structure, very roughly reminiscent of a vintage video game spacecraft with the front facing upward. Four huge cylindrical pillars carry the roof end, the outer two of which extend beyond it. All are tilted away from the landing area in front of the building and at the same time outward to the sides. The sides of the building are slightly tilted themselves. In the distance, a large geodesic dome rises from the building. There is a large circular area in front of the main entrance as well as several wide paths. They have light concrete textures, and they are lined with low walls with almost white concrete textures. Furthermore, various shrubs and trees decorate the scenery.[/zmg][/zrl]

Not to mention that AltBot would require extensive detail niche knowledge about the topic covered by the image to be able to whip up the above alt-text in the first place. (By the way: The alt-text example is genuine. I've actually used it. And it's an extremely whittled-down version of the long image description of the same image in the post itself, a description which has to be the longest in the entire Fediverse.)

Ideally, AltBot would do so without flagging the post as edited.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta
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@janboehm
Das alt-Bild zu dem Text fehlt!! 🕊️
(Hier alt Ersatz dafür: duckduckgo.com/?t=h_&q=hey+us- )

Lieber Jan. Lass dich nicht abfucken. Die meisten mögen und schätzen dich (bzw. das was man von dir medial/online mitbekommt.) ❤️ Hoffe doch, das merkst du besonders auf Mastodon.?

Kontext: Aktuelle FuF-Folge #alttext

duckduckgo.comhey us-tech-konzerne, bitte hört auf europäische gehirne zu manipulieren, danke at DuckDuckGoDuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.
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@-0--1- By the way, I'll accept that AltBot is
AMAZINGLY GOOD

when it's better at describing and explaining images about extremely obscure niche topics accurately than experts on these topics with years of experience.

I've yet to encounter an AI that outdoes my own image-describing in accuracy and level of detail. This, by the way, is likely to require knowledge that only I have.

CC: @David G. Smith

#AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta
hub.netzgemeinde.euUniversal Campus: The mother of all mega-regionsOpenSim's famous Universal Campus and a picture of its main building; CW: long (62,514 characters, including 1,747 characters of actual post text and 60,553 characters of image description)
@𝓐𝓷𝓭𝔂𝓣𝓲𝓮𝓭𝔂𝓮 𓀤 @-0--1- @David G. Smith You mean as in someone else permanently writing an alt-text into the original image?

Good luck wrestling down the permissions system and acquiring permission to remotely alter the original image post if it is from Hubzilla, (streams) or Forte. Not everything in the Fediverse is Mastodon or works like Mastodon.

#FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta
hubzilla.orgHubzilla - info@hubzilla.org
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@tiffanyszoneuk

#AltText for your screenshot:
Shows a social media post with the name removed
Text reads "If I was a business manager where changing rooms were necessary I would find a broom closet, empty it out and designate it the changing room for cis women who feel threatened by trans women. I would still have the men's and the women's but I would exclude the TERFS not the trans people. I don't know how it would work under the current equality laws but I would do it anyway."

New phone and I can't get to the #altText buttons for photo posts. The keyboards (all I've tried) block them. I've tried minimizing and floating but still can't see mastodon's controls around the keyboard. Has anyone found a solution? Thanks.